$11 NLHE MTT: Turn raise with FD and Gutshot vs unknown

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complete unknown, we have enough equity here to jam?

pokerstars - $10+$1|25/50 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 6,510.00
BB: 3,365.00
Hero (UTG): 2,995.00
UTG+1: 2,517.00
MP: 2,865.00
MP+1: 3,942.00
LP: 1,758.00
CO: 4,779.00
BTN: 3,695.00

SB posts SB 25.00, BB posts BB 50.00

Pre Flop: (75.00) Hero has Ac Tc

Hero raises to 125.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 75.00

Flop: (275.00, 2 players) 9s 8c 5c
BB checks, Hero bets 150.00, BB calls 150.00

Turn: (575.00, 2 players) Qh
BB checks, Hero bets 300.00, BB raises to 700.00, Hero calls 400.00

River: (1975.00, 2 players) 7s
BB bets 1,009.00, Hero???
 
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I think its a slight -ve EV play to call and the blinds only at 25/50 I think I would fold here.
 
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I don't understand why you are opening A,10 UTG at these blind levels? Also, why are you opening so smaller at these blind levels? Should be 3xing..

Anyway..



You're asking if we have enough equity to shove after he is committed on the river bet? Also he re-raised you on the turn and you expect to have any equity with Ace high here?

Looks like 10,J got there..not sure what you was thinking in this hand TBH and asking to jam over the top here seems daft unless you're being results oriented and he folded when you jammed, in general though that's bad play and he is never raising the turn and betting (commiting) himself on the river with air.
 
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fold pre, this isn't even close, shocked that you would open this.

min-check-raise on turn is the nuts, so he's not folding JT anywhere. call turn/fold river unimproved.
 
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Yea I'd fold pre and fold river. I don't think you're even close to having equity to jam.
 
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yea pre is pretty gross and not what i usually do,
so call turn?
 
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Fold it pre, then all questions become null and void and you save yourself 1/3 of ya stack.
Simple!
 
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Fold it pre, then all questions become null and void and you save yourself 1/3 of ya stack.
Simple!

Well, he didn't fold pre...so...no point saying that, your comment is useless.

He is asking if he's ok to shove the river..
 
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Fold it pre, then all questions become null and void and you save yourself 1/3 of ya stack.
Simple!

If we could check each flop/turn/river cards it would be very easy to say what to do pre with each and every hand wouldn't it?

Well, he didn't fold pre...so...no point saying that, your comment is useless and not sure why you bothered?

He is asking if he's ok to shove the river..

This is what HH sections are for, weird spots and decisions to make based on where the hand stands at the present time, not what it could or should of been had he folded or not folded.
 
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yea pre is pretty gross and not what i usually do,
so call turn?

Yeah calling turn is fine, nice odds,but I just give up on the river I don't think he's ever bluffing here enough to make it profitable to shove and fold out his missed draws etc.
 
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