$11 NLHE MTT: Did my opponent turn my hand into a bluff here?

[mk0523]

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 40/20/4

Not sure what my opponent had here but ended up folding. Not sure what he has here since he took a strange line checking it back on the turn so it doesn't make sense if he has a straight here. Looks bluffy after looking it back over but what do you think? Seems like a real bad spot to bluff here since I could have anything but again I don't see what he has here?




Yatahay Network - 180/360 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3 : http://www.holdemmanager.com

CO: 24,176 (67.2 bb)
BTN: 17,137 (47.6 bb)
SB: 38,655 (107.4 bb)
Hero (BB): 37,941 (105.4 bb)
UTG: 21,286 (59.1 bb)
UTG+1: 17,920 (49.8 bb)
MP: 24,935 (69.3 bb)
MP+1: 39,646 (110.1 bb)
MP+2: 18,270 (50.8 bb)

9 players post ante of 44, SB posts 180, Hero posts BB 360

Pre Flop: (pot: 936) Hero has 7d Kd
6 folds, BTN raises to 900, fold, Hero calls 540

Flop: (2,376, 2 players) Jd Kh 9h
Hero checks, BTN bets 1,008, Hero calls 1,008

Turn: (4,392, 2 players) 7s
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (4,392, 2 players) 2s
Hero bets 4,392, BTN raises to 15,185 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: 13,176 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: Jd Kh 9h 7s 2s

BTN wins 13,176

 

[1player2]

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 40/20/4

Not sure what my opponent had here but ended up folding. Not sure what he has here since he took a strange line checking it back on the turn so it doesn't make sense if he has a straight here. Looks bluffy after looking it back over but what do you think? Seems like a real bad spot to bluff here since I could have anything but again I don't see what he has here?




Yatahay Network - 180/360 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3 : http://www.holdemmanager.com

CO: 24,176 (67.2 bb)
BTN: 17,137 (47.6 bb)
SB: 38,655 (107.4 bb)
Hero (BB): 37,941 (105.4 bb)
UTG: 21,286 (59.1 bb)
UTG+1: 17,920 (49.8 bb)
MP: 24,935 (69.3 bb)
MP+1: 39,646 (110.1 bb)
MP+2: 18,270 (50.8 bb)

9 players post ante of 44, SB posts 180, Hero posts BB 360

Pre Flop: (pot: 936) Hero has 7d Kd
6 folds, BTN raises to 900, fold, Hero calls 540

Flop: (2,376, 2 players) Jd Kh 9h
Hero checks, BTN bets 1,008, Hero calls 1,008

Turn: (4,392, 2 players) 7s
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (4,392, 2 players) 2s
Hero bets 4,392, BTN raises to 15,185 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: 13,176 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: Jd Kh 9h 7s 2s

BTN wins 13,176

Hello,


I'd say well played. Only Q,10 or a set would jam over your river bet. Good disciplined fold

 

[300HPGOD]

First I would say that even though we are deep I dont mind folding pre here to a 2.5x raise. I think calling is fine as well but this is middle ground to me and would depend on what the villain is like whether I would call or not. If they are very aggressive post I would lead towards folding but again calling is fine with a suited king.

On the flop you have two backdoors and top pair, I like the check call and keep anything that you are beating in the hand. On the turn I would check as you did as I would be thinking that I am ahead but would want to let the villain bury themselves. They check behind which tells me they are either very strong or have some sort of draw with a Q or a 10. The check behind would not bother me too much but I would have preferred to check raise there. On the river I like checking to induce a bluff since nothing came in and see if they comply. I would be thinking that a Kx hand would have bet the turn but a Jx, 9x, or another pair would not call my river bet anyway so I like letting them try to bluff. With that being said I would not be leading the river but if I did it would not be for pot as you made it. As played, this could be a bluff like AQ or some other Qx or 10x hand or even hearts that didnt get there so I am not insta folding in this spot. On the flop villain bet was less than half on a coordinated board so I would not think they have JJ or 99 since they would want to protect it a bit more, same could be said for Q10. I think I call here and hope that I am good. I dont love that they are raising all in over a pot sized bet but maybe they see that bet sizing as a bluff.

 

[fundiver199]

I think, preflop, flop and turn are all fairly standard. On the river I would not lead for full pot. After checking back the turn his range is capped, and you are trying to get called by fairly weak one pair hands or even A high. Something like half pot works much better in my opinion. I would also use that size with the nuts, because I just dont think, he has a lot of very strong hands, that can call a big bet.

And then you get jammed on. This is a bit strange, but there are some hands, that improved on the river, which he could play like this. 22 and K2 comes to mind. Or maybe he turned it with T8 or 77 and decided to go for a fancy slowplay. This is something, bad players love to do. Or he could have a busted draw, that just refuses to give up.

Apart from the odd chance, he has K2 and overplays it, this is a bluff catching spot. So as always it comes down to, which price are you getting and do you think, he is bluffing often enough? Reads do matter, so depending on, what I felt at the moment, I can see myself both folding and calling here.

But I would not have created the spot by betting so large. If you bet half pot and still get jammed on, I think, its a much easier fold, and you also lose less. And if he make a small raise, then I would just call and see his hand. If he had you beat, it is a bit of a cooler, and its ok to lose some chips. But giving him a full dubble up is perhaps a bit to much.

 

[jaworek1405]

Hello, I think that we can fold on the river to his allin. I agree with fundiver that pre flop, flop and turn is standard game, because we play OOP and we have to be careful. In opponent range are many hands that he can raise from the button, and in this situation many situation is possible, two pair, sets and straight. Besides you play very big bet on the river and you show that you have something strong, opponents have to respect your bet on the river and when opponent raise you on the river I don't think so that he do that with only one pair. So I think better fold our two pair. On the river I prefer smaller bet, for about 50%, because I think that it will be more profitable move on the long run time. GL

 

[ZenGreen]

Hmm... such wet flop, I dunno if a big one pair hand would jam the river like that. and of course player has to be the buttom so his range is wide.

I think what is messing me up is the river pot bet, im bad with numbers but seems like once we bet that big we cant fold 2 pair.

I mean we can fold but.. isnt this like 3:1 type thing

 

[SoulMan87]

For me he just just put you on hand like T8h or something similar and assumed you bluff. I would call, especially, he could do it even for value with just AK. And for me, checking turn was a misstake while there is so many draw possibilities.