$11 NLHE MTT Bounty: Two pair on flop. Is there value bet on turn?

[iwont20]

PokerStars - 400/800 Ante 100 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 30.63 BB
CO: 38.35 BB (VPIP: 20.37, PFR: 9.43, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, hands: 54)
BTN: 25.21 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 54)
SB: 145.55 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (BB): 102.01 BB
UTG: 65.04 BB (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 20.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)
UTG+1: 20.77 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP: 93.69 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP+1: 41.72 BB (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.62 BB) Hero has 9:heart: A:spade:

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2.95 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.95 BB

Flop: (7.52 BB, 2 players) K:club: 9:diamond: A:heart:
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, MP+1 calls 8 BB

Turn: (29.52 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond:

That's a bounty tournament (7.5$ for my opponent) and the pot on turn equal to my opponent's remaining stack. Do I have a value bet here after his call on flop or it's more of a wishful thinking?

 

[QA77]

There’s no reason to slow down. You have a strong hand and opponent has plenty of hands that are behind. Yes, you can be beat but you can’t play scared. That’s one of the best turn cards so keep betting.

 

[MemphisGrind]

PokerStars - 400/800 Ante 100 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 30.63 BB
CO: 38.35 BB (VPIP: 20.37, PFR: 9.43, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 54)
BTN: 25.21 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 54)
SB: 145.55 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (BB): 102.01 BB
UTG: 65.04 BB (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 20.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)
UTG+1: 20.77 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP: 93.69 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP+1: 41.72 BB (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.62 BB) Hero has 9♥ A♠

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2.95 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.95 BB

Flop: (7.52 BB, 2 players) K♣ 9♦ A♥
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, MP+1 calls 8 BB

Turn: (29.52 BB, 2 players) 5♦

That's a bounty tournament (7.5$ for my opponent) and the pot on turn equal to my opponent's remaining stack. Do I have a value bet here after his call on flop or it's more of a wishful thinking?

I don't see what happened on the turn and I don't understand what you're asking... MP+1 will do one of two things on the turn, check, or bet. If they check yes you can get more value, if they bet then you have already gotten more value. I'm confused on what the question is?

 

[Nathan Smith]

I don't see what happened on the turn and I don't understand what you're asking... MP+1 will do one of two things on the turn, check, or bet. If they check yes you can get more value, if they bet then you have already gotten more value. I'm confused on what the question is?

I think the OP is saying does he continue betting on the turn or does he check with the small SPR. I find this spot tough as well as Hero is either way behind or way infront. I would say it is player dependent. If opponent is recreational you beat a lot of his other Ax and straight draws. With his small stack though I would think you are good - most better hands will just try and get it all-in on the flop. So I would bet 30/40% on turn to get called by worse and maybe induce a jam which you call.

 

[MemphisGrind]

I think the OP is saying does he continue betting on the turn or does he check with the small SPR. I find this spot tough as well as Hero is either way behind or way infront. I would say it is player dependent. If opponent is recreational you beat a lot of his other Ax and straight draws. With his small stack though I would think you are good - most better hands will just try and get it all-in on the flop. So I would bet 30/40% on turn to get called by worse and maybe induce a jam which you call.

Wow I never saw where OP was OOP. I didn't see the line that said hero check, then MP+1 bet, I just saw MP+1 bet so assumed Hero was in position. OK! knowing this, I believe I still value bet with a SPR of 1.211 they are committed to the hand with with most holdings. I like the lead on the turn for value I feel like we are ahead of villains range even without properly knowing what villains actual range is here.

 

[liuouhgkres]

I'm actually against check-raise on these kind of flops for very simple reason. Your range is capped. You don't have AA, KK and Ak in your range, because you should 3bet them preflop. So the only hands that you can check-raise are 99 and A9. And even they are not beating the very top of villains range, because he can have AA, KK, AK, 99. As you see you range is capped, villain's range is not capped, therefore you should play your range more slowly. You have two pair, but if you check raise villain has ton of hands that beat you. So, no check-raise on the flop. And by the same logic no betting on the turn. Check.

 

[iwont20]

I'm actually against check-raise on these kind of flops for very simple reason. Your range is capped. You don't have AA, KK and Ak in your range, because you should 3bet them preflop. So the only hands that you can check-raise are 99 and A9. And even they are not beating the very top of villains range, because he can have AA, KK, AK, 99. As you see you range is capped, villain's range is not capped, therefore you should play your range more slowly. You have two pair, but if you check raise villain has ton of hands that beat you. So, no check-raise on the flop. And by the same logic no betting on the turn. Check.

Yes, I agree with you, I shouldn't have check-raised as I don't achieve anything and just getting myself in a difficult spot on the turn. That's why I asked about it, as I think I don't have a V-bet on T after he called the flop. But I was unsure, as maybe I'm just being way too cautious or result oriented, although his tight passive stats and call on flop make it rather easy check.

 

[Mepper95]

I don't see a reason to slow down. It's very possible he has KXdd and picked up even more equity. Seems like a pretty safe turn to fire a very value heavy bet & make him even more pot committed on any river card How did it play out?

 

[iwont20]

There’s no reason to slow down. You have a strong hand and opponent has plenty of hands that are behind. Yes, you can be beat but you can’t play scared. That’s one of the best turn cards so keep betting.

Wow I never saw where OP was OOP. I didn't see the line that said hero check, then MP+1 bet, I just saw MP+1 bet so assumed Hero was in position. OK! knowing this, I believe I still value bet with a SPR of 1.211 they are committed to the hand with with most holdings. I like the lead on the turn for value I feel like we are ahead of villains range even without properly knowing what villains actual range is here.

You think I'm ahead here a fair amount of time to keep betting if opponent has 8 PFR and calls a check-raise on this flop? Would you play like this with a top pair/ gutshot? And if he's pot committed, so do you think I could not escape this hand after flopping a two pair?

 

[Perceval]

Hello,
Its online poker....you can t see your opponent.
Do you know him? did you have the chance to gauge it?
Is he a good player? or a kid?
......
I know I m not a good help. Sorry

 

[quant1986]

I think you can check raise this flop if villain's stack is deeper and mix with JT with backdoor flush to make it more balanced.

As played, I would put villian in this range AA,KK,99,AK,KQs,AQo,AQs,AJs and bet 25-33% pot and hopefully get a cheap shown down or shove if villain is more sticky type

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Yeah on this flop I wouldn't look to have a check raising range probably unless I had a read that I could do so in a hyper unbalanced way to accomplish a specific purpose, in which case I'm doing it as an exploit. Typically as a bluff.

But if I know nothing about my opponent I'd be more likely to only continue through calls.