$11 NLHE: 5d7d UTG V's 3-bet squeeze

[WossaPotOddz]

$11 NL HE: 5d7d UTG V's 3-bet squeeze

Ok this isn't me in the hand, it's from elsewhere but what do you think about this from start to finish.

pokerstars Game #32334171596: Tournament #191841336, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (150/300) - 2009/09/01 20:19:24 CT [2009/09/01 21:19:24 ET]
Table '191841336 31' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Panda2785 (36723 in chips)
Seat 2: yvoutime (16125 in chips)
Seat 3: istylez (17560 in chips)
Seat 4: shiggets (29828 in chips)
Seat 5: Benicio333 (46488 in chips)
Seat 6: Bim_Bundy (43063 in chips)
Seat 7: defjux41 (76965 in chips)
Seat 8: liraconcre (24403 in chips)
Seat 9: Hans373 (31349 in chips)
Panda2785: posts the ante 40
yvoutime: posts the ante 40
istylez: posts the ante 40
shiggets: posts the ante 40
Benicio333: posts the ante 40
Bim_Bundy: posts the ante 40
defjux41: posts the ante 40
liraconcre: posts the ante 40
Hans373: posts the ante 40
yvoutime: posts small blind 150
istylez: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shiggets [5d 7d]
shiggets: raises 699 to 999
Benicio333: calls 999
Bim_Bundy: folds
defjux41: folds
liraconcre: folds
Hans373: folds
Panda2785: raises 1701 to 2700
yvoutime: folds
istylez: calls 2400
shiggets: calls 1701
defjux41 said, "meh, all the same to me"
Benicio333: calls 1701
*** FLOP *** [4h Ad 9d]
istylez: checks
shiggets: checks
Benicio333: checks
Panda2785: bets 4200
istylez: raises 10620 to 14820 and is all-in
shiggets: raises 12268 to 27088 and is all-in
Benicio333: folds
Panda2785: calls 22888

I think the UTG raise is fine, stealing light from UTG is teh sexy.

I think calling the 3bet is bad since someone's already called, we don't cap the action and we have 7 high.

Post flop has no fold equity with a baby flush draw and is either bet/fold (unless everyone calls) or check/fold (unless getting the correct odds)

What do you reckon?

 

[Zybomb]

Raise is fine pre if it's not standard but a mix up. Calling the 3 bet is ok I guess also since we have 4:1 (really 5:1 since original caller is almost certainly coming along as well) and we're still deep and we have a hand that can fare ok against overpairs if we hit.

Flop is very bad. We can c/c a small bet (he underbet the ish out of it 4200 into a nearly 11k nice!) but once it's bet and shoved, I dunno what we're trying to do here. Gamble for a big stack i assume, but with 27k+ in chips still and blinds at 300 (thats nearly 100 fn Big Blinds!) geez we can pick other spots than a 7 high FD with no fold equity whatsoever to put nearly 100 BBs in when we have ultra room to play poker still

 

[dj11]

Raise is fine pre if it's not standard but a mix up. Calling the 3 bet is ok I guess also since we have 4:1 (really 5:1 since original caller is almost certainly coming along as well) and we're still deep and we have a hand that can fare ok against overpairs if we hit.

Flop is very bad. We can c/c a small bet (he underbet the ish out of it 4200 into a nearly 11k nice!) but once it's bet and shoved, I dunno what we're trying to do here. Gamble for a big stack i assume, but with 27k+ in chips still and blinds at 300 (thats nearly 100 fn Big Blinds!) geez we can pick other spots than a 7 high FD with no fold equity whatsoever to put nearly 100 BBs in when we have ultra room to play poker still

^^^ this.

 

[WossaPotOddz]

You still call 3bet with one person left to act? I thought it was snapfold

 

[Zybomb]

You still call 3bet with one person left to act? I thought it was snapfold

The likelihood of the remaining player reraising is very small and the likelihood of him calling behind is high, so we can safely assume we have 5:1 on a 1700 call with 27k+ behind with an easy to play hand post that isn't likely to run into trouble vs other hands (i.e KQS etc). Because of this I don't mind the call pre, although I certainly wouldn't fault a fold pre either. If we do call and caller reraises, then we make a note of this (that he flats with bombs then reraises) and readjust. Obviously we'd fold to a 4 bet and be pissed

Regardless, flop play is bad