$.10r NLHE MTT Rebuy: Jh 10h Short stacked

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okay this is the hand i went out on just 4 from the money

chuckhead Posts Ante 50.00
littleoldlady Posts Ante 50.00
Nemesis510x Posts Ante 50.00
lifestooshort Posts Ante 50.00
ProphetEyes Posts Ante 50.00
justpoker101 Posts Ante 50.00
zingaro1968flushed Posts Ante 50.00
chuckhead Posts SB 250.00
littleoldlady Posts BB 500.00
Nemesis510x Folds
lifestooshort Folds
ProphetEyes All In 5670.00
justpoker101 Folds
zingaro1968flushed Calls 5670.00
chuckhead Folds
littleoldlady Folds
ProphetEyes Shows Jh,Th
zingaro1968flushed Shows Qs,Qh
ProphetEyes Out
zingaro1968flushed Won 12440.00 from Pot 1 with Pair of Queens

right to push here short stacked in early middle position?
 
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It's not terrible - you took a shot and got your ass handed to you - better than blinding out. Some guys would wait, some wouldn't. I'm 50/50 depending on how I'm reading the table and what my image is.
 
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It's a 10 cent game, the loose calling ranges make shoving hands like this bad. Even against fairly tight calling ranges I'm v. doubtful it's a +ev shove.
 
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okay this is the hand i went out on just 4 from the money

right to push here short stacked in early middle position?

I don't think so. If you were in the sb then yeah, but from early mid it's a little too loose.
 
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It's a 10 cent game, the loose calling ranges make shoving hands like this bad. Even against fairly tight calling ranges I'm v. doubtful it's a +ev shove.

very good point - I retract
 
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This shove is too loose, this has to be a fold.
 
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Not sure if i'm reading this right, it looks like he is in the hijack. This seems like a fine spot to shove. OP, in future we need things like...

(stack sizes, when the blinds are changing, your position in the tournament, the tournament structure, and any reads you possible have on the players left to act behind you)
 
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You're only getting called by a better hand if you shove from EP like that. I'd probably fold. You had enough chips to sit for a slightly better hand to come.
 
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the point is that we're in a 10c game, people will call with ridic hands so shoving hands like this becomes -ev since we should have no fold equity.
 
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i agree... i should have waited. i had more hands to see
 
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If you really want your $.10 back I can stake you it thru paypal lol
 
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You guys need to account for the antes in play
 
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People thinking this is just some outlandish play are either taking account of some huge change in game conditions at these stakes I wouldnt know about or just a bit too conservative once antes come in.

FOR SURE ITS A FOLD, BUT OTB or in the SB a push is very attractive....probably a somewhat easy push in SB.
 
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I'm shoving any hand if it folds to me in the SB and somehow I have an M <5
 
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People thinking this is just some outlandish play are either taking account of some huge change in game conditions at these stakes I wouldnt know about or just a bit too conservative once antes come in.

FOR SURE ITS A FOLD, BUT OTB or in the SB a push is very attractive....probably a somewhat easy push in SB.
Yes obv, except we are in neither of the aformentioned positions so not seeing the relevance of your statement.

In fact I didn't even know we were in HJ (since OP says he is early-middle position which HJ is not) which makes it slightly closer but still prefer folding due to BI.
 
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imo its a litttle loose in ep or mp you will only get called by a hand thats a better starting hand than you. but unlucky to see queens
 
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clearly a fold...
Even if the min cash doesn't mean nothing to you, it's not an ev+ spot to shove(even if it was an higher bi with better players)
 
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