$109 NL HE MTT: Bluff catching like god or spew fish

[Rajten]

Game

Hold'em

Game Format

No Limit

Table Format

MTT

Buy-in

109

VP$IP

24

PFR

10

Game Options

1. Bounty

Currency

$

Sunday milion, table of nits

Villain 24 vpip 10PR, 3b 4, 68 hands, got one elmination

I don't know if this means something, but hand before, I made huge 3 barrel bluff against villain and I won significant portion of his stack.

pokerstars, $100 + $9 - Hold'em No Limit - 1,000/2,000 (250 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat - https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/5255HHFCM

UTG: 39,312 (20 bb)
UTG+1 (Hero): 98,998 (49 bb)
MP: 40,002 (20 bb)
MP+1: 77,023 (39 bb)
CO: 71,165 (36 bb)
BU: 127,041 (64 bb)
SB: 40,882 (20 bb)
BB: 101,042 (51 bb)

Pre-Flop: (5,000) Hero is UTG+1 with J♦ 9♦
1 fold, Hero raises to 4,400, 2 players fold, CO calls 4,400, 3 players fold

Flop: (13,800) Q♦ J♠ 2♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 5,000, Hero calls 5,000

Turn: (23,800) 6♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 18,326, Hero calls 18,326

River: (60,452) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 43,189 (all-in), Hero calls 43,189

Normally I probably folding on turn, but this time I continued

 

[Andyreas]

Ok so what did he show?

Also how far did you get in the Sunday million?

 

[FF2586]

Hi,
You are obviously bluff catching, must be based on the history between you two. Because otherwise, with second pair and no draw, the hand is over on the turn, for me at least. The reward is not worth the risk.
Anyway, gl at the tables.

 

[eetenor]

Sunday milion, table of nits

Villain 24 vpip 10PR, 3b 4, 68 hands, got one elmination

I don't know if this means something, but hand before, I made huge 3 barrel bluff against villain and I won significant portion of his stack.

PokerStars, $100 + $9 - Hold'em No Limit - 1,000/2,000 (250 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat - https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/5255HHFCM

UTG: 39,312 (20 bb)
UTG+1 (Hero): 98,998 (49 bb)
MP: 40,002 (20 bb)
MP+1: 77,023 (39 bb)
CO: 71,165 (36 bb)
BU: 127,041 (64 bb)
SB: 40,882 (20 bb)
BB: 101,042 (51 bb)

Pre-Flop: (5,000) Hero is UTG+1 with J♦ 9♦
1 fold, Hero raises to 4,400, 2 players fold, CO calls 4,400, 3 players fold

Flop: (13,800) Q♦ J♠ 2♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 5,000, Hero calls 5,000

Turn: (23,800) 6♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 18,326, Hero calls 18,326

River: (60,452) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 43,189 (all-in), Hero calls 43,189

Normally I probably folding on turn, but this time I continued

Sunday milion, table of nits

Villain 24 vpip 10PR, 3b 4, 68 hands, got one elmination

I don't know if this means something, but hand before, I made huge 3 barrel bluff against villain and I won significant portion of his stack.

PokerStars, $100 + $9 - Hold'em No Limit - 1,000/2,000 (250 ante) - 8 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat - https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/5255HHFCM

UTG: 39,312 (20 bb)
UTG+1 (Hero): 98,998 (49 bb)
MP: 40,002 (20 bb)
MP+1: 77,023 (39 bb)
CO: 71,165 (36 bb)
BU: 127,041 (64 bb)
SB: 40,882 (20 bb)
BB: 101,042 (51 bb)

Pre-Flop: (5,000) Hero is UTG+1 with J♦ 9♦
1 fold, Hero raises to 4,400, 2 players fold, CO calls 4,400, 3 players fold

Flop: (13,800) Q♦ J♠ 2♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 5,000, Hero calls 5,000

Turn: (23,800) 6♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 18,326, Hero calls 18,326

River: (60,452) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 43,189 (all-in), Hero calls 43,189

Normally I probably folding on turn, but this time I continued

Why are you normally folding this turn? You block better JX hands---you checked flop to pot control--- and the sizing requires that you need only 17.66% equity to call and equilab results give you 40% vs a full GTO range---this is a spot that you call to make a river decision most often-

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
This would probably be the bottom of my opening range. I also dont think, a fold would be crazy with two reshove stacks behind, especially if either of those players had a high 3-bet percentage over a significant sample.

Flop
I agree with check-calling here. If you C-bet, no better hand is folding, and no worse hands are calling, if you go bet, bet, shove. You also have some nice backdoor draws, that can develop, so you definitely dont mind seeing a turn here.

Turn
6h did not give you any extra equity, and now the opponent bets a very large size, which sets it up for an easy river jam for him. So obviously if you continue now, you are bluffcatching, and then the question is, do you want to do that or not? The opponent is passive preflop with a 14% gap between VPIP and PFR, and my default assumption is, that such passivity usually tend to carry over to postflop. So I tend to overfold against such opponents, especially when their bet sizing tell me, they are intending to play for stacks. But it could matter, that you just won a big pot from him, because he could be a little tilted and wanting to "get back at you". You were the one playing, so you had the read.

River
Facing this jam is something, we should already have been prepared for, when we called the turn, because it was fairly obvious, it was most likely going to come. T9 is now a straight, so one of the draws got there, but KT and spades missed. You have pretty good removal, since you block T9 and also some other strong hands like JJ or QJ, but you dont block any of the busted draws. So this is a better calling hand than for instance KJ with K of spades. So I guess, that if you called on the turn, its also a call now? Because its a PKO, you are also getting better pot odds, when you cover and can win his bounty.

 

[Rajten]

This time I lost against AQo, but I made a comback and reached ITM

 

[AKQ]

This time I lost against AQo, but I made a comback and reached ITM

It's good to have hands be analyzed so we can make the best decisions.
It's even better when we lose those hands that we share.

Now lets see his range to call you preflop

 

[AKQ]

So....
I'm gonna teach you few things here..take with salt

this flop can be acted upon your opponents range in a variety of ways.

AK has 2 overs and is in position and would fire this size bet(as would K10 )
Aq AJ KQ 22 QJ Q2 and even j2 dominate you

What was in his preflop range that you can beat postflop?
nothing but a bluff

 

[fundiver199]

Now lets see his range to call you preflop

A 24/10 is almost certainly calling wider than this. He is not a GTO wizard but a recreational player. But even so I would still check-fold the turn

 

[Matt_Burns88]

Personally, I don't like the initial open. Fold and you never find yourself in the tricky position on the Turn or River. You're 50bbs deep, not 100bb+, so I would be folding J9s 100% of the time here, especially when you consider the table leader is on the BTN and BB has you covered.

As played, the check/call on the flop is absolutely fine with middle pair and a bdsd/bdfd. But the turn is a clear check/fold.

 

[Luvepoker]

A player who you called a nit just pushed in the pot 21BB after betting flop and turn and you have 2nd pair 9 kicker. I agree with you play until the turn. While I could agree with your turn bet, you did again say he was a nit. All your beating of the turn was draws. I would not have been happy but would have folded the river 100% of the time vs him and probally 70+% of the time on the turn.

 

[IADaveMark]

Pre-Flop: (5,000) Hero is UTG+1 with J♦ 9♦
1 fold, Hero raises to 4,400, 2 players fold, CO calls 4,400, 3 players fold

This is not a great hand to play in EP. Workable, yes. But that's because you are only hoping for the straight and flush draws or 2 pair. Anything else, you are going to be clubbed.

Flop: (13,800) Q♦ J♠ 2♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 5,000, Hero calls 5,000

Check call here is fine because you at least had some of the flop and he could be c-betting with air. Especially since he only fired just over 1/3 pot. This not only screams that he has a Q but also likely top/top.

Turn: (23,800) 6♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 18,326, Hero calls 18,326

And this is where it went off the rails. You didn't get help and now he's firing a 3/4 pot raise. Never mind the stack size at that point... you are likely hosed at this point. And with no serious draws other than one of the 3x 9 or one of the 2 remaining jacks. So if he DOES have a Q (with any kicker) you are behind—you have 5 outs. Or about 12%. You are NOT getting 7:1 on a call here.

River: (60,452) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 43,189 (all-in), Hero calls 43,189

Given the above, and the not improving at all on the river, this can't possibly be a call here. The way it played, he would have to be firing a 3-barrel bluff. Oooooorrr... ??