$10 NLHE MTT: Help me with three hands

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Hi,

Can you help me with those three hands? All info below.

HAND 1


GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 60/120 (15 ante) - 7 players
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UTG: 9,970 (83 bb)
MP: 20,005 (167 bb)
MP+1: 9,869 (82 bb)
CO: 9,850 (82 bb)
BU: 9,681 (81 bb)
SB: 10,932 (91 bb)
BB (Hero): 9,751 (81 bb)

Pre-Flop: (285) Hero is BB with T J
4 players fold, BTN raises to 264, SB calls 204, Hero calls 144

Flop: (897) 2 9 3 (3 players)
SB bets 449, Hero calls 449, BU folds

Turn: (1,795) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 600, SB calls 600

River: (2,995) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

My questions:
1) What you think about my bet sizing on turn?
2) Is my action on river proper?


HAND 2

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 125/250 (30 ante) - 7 players
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UTG: 15,489 (62 bb)
MP: 15,391 (62 bb)
MP+1: 22,833 (91 bb)
CO: 9,970 (40 bb)
BU (Hero): 11,915 (48 bb)
SB: 13,964 (56 bb)
BB: 11,455 (46 bb)

Pre-Flop: (585) Hero is BTN with Q K
4 players fold, Hero raises to 600, SB 3-bets to 2,220, 1 fold, Hero calls 1,620

Flop: (4,900) Q 8 7 (2 players)
SB bets 2,800, Hero raises to 9,665 (all-in), SB folds

So very first problem for me was if I should call his 3bet, but I decided to do so, to not be exploitable, as he has already 3betted me a hand or two before and I folded then. Flop was quite nice for me, the only hands in his range he was beating me was AA,KK,AQ. I put him on range with A8s+, AQ+, KQs, TT+. With this range equilab shew me 60.2% equity.
I felt he bet high as I am short stacked and he wanted me to fold, as if he would be betting for value, he would use small bet to make me call and lower my SPR.

My questions:
1) Do you think I should defend SB 3bet with QKo this spot?
2) Is my thought trail proper?
3) Do you think the range I put him on is ok?

HAND 3


GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 125/250 (30 ante) - 8 players
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UTG (Hero): 17,245 (69 bb)
UTG+1: 8,794 (35 bb)
MP: 10,930 (44 bb)
MP+1: 14,964 (60 bb)
CO: 14,981 (60 bb)
BU: 22,768 (91 bb)
SB: 10,650 (43 bb)
BB: 10,685 (43 bb)

Pre-Flop: (615) Hero is UTG with A 8
Hero raises to 625, UTG+1 calls 625, 3 players fold, BTN calls 625, 2 players fold

Flop: (2,490) Q A 7 (3 players)
Hero bets 750, UTG+1 calls 750, BU folds

Turn: (3,990) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets 1,000, UTG+1 calls 1,000

River: (5,990) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets 6,490, UTG+1 calls 6,389 (all-in)

Just let me know what you think about this last spot. How I can avoid being crushed by sets?

I am playing now for more than 2 years, but I started to really learn just couple months ago and I want to know if my understading of particular hands is proper. Thanks in advance for your answers.
 
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I'm going to talk about the first hand. I like everything you did, the bet sizing on turn also. I would have even considered a check on turn to trap, but your bet sizing was good in order for him to keep paying. The river was very bad for you so I like your check back. His check could have been in hopes that you bet the river, so I wouldn't do that. I would be glad to take those 3000 chips and not take any other risks.
 
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First hand.
Depend on player on SB. Answer several questions:
1. AdXx/QdXx in SB call range vs BTN? How many hand are in the donk vs 2 range? For example: Ad2d, Ad4d, Ad5d more likely yes. Ad2x, Ad3x, Ad4x, Ad5x, Ad9x more likely not in SB call range, AdJx++ more likely in 3bet range. QdKx not in the donk range. And so one. For very wide callers Qd9x possible.
2. Other hand donk betting vs 2 in SB call range? 22? 99? 33? TT?
3. Villain prefer passive or active?
4. What hand do they pay?
For me only Ad4d, Ad5d, 22, 99, 33 are suitable hand for bet vs 2 in SB call range.
I think you should bet more on turn and check on river OR bet same or a bit more on turn and about 1/3 on river.
 
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Hi,

Can you help me with those three hands? All info below.

HAND 1


GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 60/120 (15 ante) - 7 players
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UTG: 9,970 (83 bb)
MP: 20,005 (167 bb)
MP+1: 9,869 (82 bb)
CO: 9,850 (82 bb)
BU: 9,681 (81 bb)
SB: 10,932 (91 bb)
BB (Hero): 9,751 (81 bb)

Pre-Flop: (285) Hero is BB with T J
4 players fold, BTN raises to 264, SB calls 204, Hero calls 144

Flop: (897) 2 9 3 (3 players)
SB bets 449, Hero calls 449, BU folds

Turn: (1,795) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 600, SB calls 600

River: (2,995) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

My questions:
1) What you think about my bet sizing on turn?
2) Is my action on river proper?


HAND 2

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 125/250 (30 ante) - 7 players
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UTG: 15,489 (62 bb)
MP: 15,391 (62 bb)
MP+1: 22,833 (91 bb)
CO: 9,970 (40 bb)
BU (Hero): 11,915 (48 bb)
SB: 13,964 (56 bb)
BB: 11,455 (46 bb)

Pre-Flop: (585) Hero is BTN with Q K
4 players fold, Hero raises to 600, SB 3-bets to 2,220, 1 fold, Hero calls 1,620

Flop: (4,900) Q 8 7 (2 players)
SB bets 2,800, Hero raises to 9,665 (all-in), SB folds

So very first problem for me was if I should call his 3bet, but I decided to do so, to not be exploitable, as he has already 3betted me a hand or two before and I folded then. Flop was quite nice for me, the only hands in his range he was beating me was AA,KK,AQ. I put him on range with A8s+, AQ+, KQs, TT+. With this range equilab shew me 60.2% equity.
I felt he bet high as I am short stacked and he wanted me to fold, as if he would be betting for value, he would use small bet to make me call and lower my SPR.

My questions:
1) Do you think I should defend SB 3bet with QKo this spot?
2) Is my thought trail proper?
3) Do you think the range I put him on is ok?

HAND 3


GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 125/250 (30 ante) - 8 players
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UTG (Hero): 17,245 (69 bb)
UTG+1: 8,794 (35 bb)
MP: 10,930 (44 bb)
MP+1: 14,964 (60 bb)
CO: 14,981 (60 bb)
BU: 22,768 (91 bb)
SB: 10,650 (43 bb)
BB: 10,685 (43 bb)

Pre-Flop: (615) Hero is UTG with A 8
Hero raises to 625, UTG+1 calls 625, 3 players fold, BTN calls 625, 2 players fold

Flop: (2,490) Q A 7 (3 players)
Hero bets 750, UTG+1 calls 750, BU folds

Turn: (3,990) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets 1,000, UTG+1 calls 1,000

River: (5,990) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets 6,490, UTG+1 calls 6,389 (all-in)

Just let me know what you think about this last spot. How I can avoid being crushed by sets?

I am playing now for more than 2 years, but I started to really learn just couple months ago and I want to know if my understading of particular hands is proper. Thanks in advance for your answers.



Hi! Please take everything I say with a grain of salt. I am definitely not a great player, but I'm glad to give my subjective opinion.

Hand 1:

I would probably go larger on the turn bet size. On the flop SB bet into 2 people, so he most likely connects with this board somehow, unless he is crazy. On the other hand- I might be completely mistaken and you just got value from a 9x type of hand that a larger bet would have forced to fold.
On the river I would definitely check back as well. There is Kd9d on the board, TdJd in your hand, so the best you could hope is he calls your value bet with 8d? I don't see it happening. Even less I see him folding Qd, so in conclusion- I like checking.

Hand 2:

I am not a huge fan of flatting KQo against the 3-bet. I don´t think you should be worried too much about getting exploited in a 10$ tournament. Although you said he 3-bet you once before, doesn't necessarily mean he is super aggro, it's not that rare to get a good hand twice in a MTT. ;)
Also, I feel your thought process might be a bit dangerous- he could have easily (and probably more likely) just be a player who has no idea about bet sizes, ranges, SPR etcetc and these complicated thoughts just make your own life difficult.
As played, I would probably shove the flop also, given the scary board and low SPR.

Hand 3:

Easy fold preflop. A8o definitely too loose from UTG.
As played, I would not be very happy about the UTG +1 flat. He could easily still have a better Ax.
On the flop I would like check-call more with our top pair, weak kicker. Although I don't think being balanced in micro stakes is super necessary, I do like having top pair in my checking range, especially out of position.
As played, on the turn I would like a check even more after UTG +1 flats our flop bet.
As played, on the river we make two pairs, but the obvious flush draw gets there and AQ is still beating us, so I really do not like the shove. I feel that both check-call and bet-fold are superior to shove in this spot.

I hope I am not talking completely out of my butt and if there is a logic flaw in my thought process, please let me know!
 
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Ill try keep it short since there are 3 hands

Hand 1: I agree with everything here except the turn bet sizing. You have a strong hand that you want to get value with and if villain has nothing they shouldnt be calling anyway and they can have holdings like Kx or a larger Diamond that they will continue with for one more street and then check fold the river. If you believe you will only get one street from them than I would go bigger on that street to get the most value I can. I would go a little over half pot there.

Hand 2: I would fold to the 3 bet in that spot. We do have position but I would think I am going against a better hand here (unless villain is loose). As played on the flop I like calling more than jamming because I want to keep in their JJ-99 hands. AK I want in as well since they are only drawing to the ace and if the King comes later in the hand we will really get paid. We do block KK but I feel like this bet will only get called by hands that beat you including AQ and everything worse than you including JJ just folds.

Hand 3: I think this is the worst played hand of all 3. We are somewhat deep but I am folding A8 off UTG unless I think the table is really bad and also is rarely if ever 3 betting. Once we are called (especially by UTG +1) I am nervous here. When the ace flops you are in no mans land because you are not even sure if you are ahead right now. There are two ways I think you can play this. One is to admit this was not the hand to get in and just check and see what happens. The other option is to bet around half pot and rep the AJ+ and see how the villains react. You tried to play it both ways and what you did was put chips in the middle but not deter people from folding even their draws. You priced in a fludh draw all the way and then when the river comes you acted like 2 pair was the nuts. Thats a dangerous river bet that yes could be called by worse two pairs but it is also setting yourself to get stacked if the villain hit the flush.
 
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Hand 1 JTs

Preflop and flop is pretty standard in my opinion. On the turn I lean towards a larger bet for value like 60% pot. Another diamond on the river was not, what we were looking for, and it also suck, that we have Td, because now he cant have it and pay us off. Betting for value is definitely a bit thin, but as played maybe you can bet like 25-30% pot again and still get a crying call from some worse hands.

Hand 2 KQo

If he was an aggressive 3-better, you are supposed to defend this hand after opening on BTN, but I always kind of hate these spots, because when we flop a pair, we are still behind to his value range. We did flop a pair, so obviously we cant fold now, but I do prefer to just call, when we have position. I think, that when you jam it in, you are almost forcing him to play well. All his better hands and good draws are calling, and all his worse hands, that are drawing almost dead, are folding. Hands like AX with 3 outs or 99-JJ with 2 outs. If you just call, you keep those hands in his range and allow him to potentially make a mistake with them on the turn.

Hand 3 A8o

This should just be folded preflop from UTG. When you get called by UTG+1 and then BTN as well, thats an extremely strong action especially from UTG+1, and already I am not excited about this situation at all. You flopped top pair, but you have a very bad kicker, so this is certainly not a value hand, when you opened UTG and got called by UTG+1. I would check and evaluate. If UTG+1 bet and BTN fold, or UTG+1 check and BTN bet, I am probably taking one off. But if UTG+1 bet and BTN call or raise, I am just out of there right away.

You went for small blocker bets on the flop and turn and got action from UTG+1. I am not a big fan of this, because other than charging a few draws in his range, I dont really think, this does anything. He has position on you, and on the flop he had someone else left to act behind him. So its totally reasonable, that he is playing slow with a hand better than yours.

On the river you improved to two pair, and now you overbet jammed. I think, this is turning your hand into a valuebluff. You might have the best hand, but when you play it like this, you will only get action from those hands, that beat you. Like sets, flushes and AQ, which still has a better two pair. I dont think, he ever have a worse two pair than you, because hands like A7 or A6 should really not call from UTG+1.

So you are trying to get called by one pair hands, and other than maybe a passively played AK, I just dont think, that will happen very often for this sizing. As played I would bet 25% pot again, which might be small enough to make hands like 99-JJ or KQ get curious and want to see a showdown. If he raise, its kind of a rough spot, buy in general I would bet-fold. The main draw got there, and its rare, that people take a marginal made hand and turn it into a bluff.
 
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Hand one, size up on the turn. Top pair probably isn't going to fold yet. River is an clear check for me. That k isn't calling anymore unless he also has the ace or queen that you don't want to see.

Hand 2, I'm defending the 3bet from small blind. Especially if theyve shown a tendency to 3bet there often. The flop for me is a check call. I'm not interested in letting jj or ak off the hook that easily. The hands calling you are all beating you.

Hand 3, for starters a8 off utg hits the muck. I would never open that hand. As played, betting 1/3 pot on that flop is standard for me for pretty much your entire opening range. You have a huge range advantage. Turn I think you need to size up a bit. The small bet kinda tells the other player you don't love your hand. It screams kq or weak ace. River jam is questionable because I think you would have heard from hands you want to call like aj on the turn considering the small sizings. Hands calling you are probably sneaky sets and river flushes.
 
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betting 1/3 pot on that flop is standard for me for pretty much your entire opening range. You have a huge range advantage.

If we were playing heads-up against big blind, this would be true. However we got called by UTG+1, and as I said already, he should actually have a very strong range for entering the pot, when we did it already, and he still have the rest of the table left to act behind him. Maybe he cant have AA, if he 3-bet KK-AA, but flatting QQ, AK and AQ is fairly normal in this situation. So maybe we have a nut advantage, but its fairly small.

And we dont have a range advantage, because if we are opening 15% of hands, he is only supposed to give action with 8-10% of hands. This is called the gap concept. Now obviously the reality might be quite different, if we are playing against a recreational player. But it is a 10$ MTT, so without any info given by OP, I will base my analysis on an assumption, that both opponents know, what they are doing, and use close to correct ranges.
 
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