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Mwesty

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Dealing With These Players

I played a tournament tonight, and I was quite surprised at the amount of loons that was involved in the tournament. The Buy-In was $30+$3 and was a $10,000 Guaranteed NL Hold'Em Tournament held at Titan this evening. I thought with the tournament being quite a high buy-in, the majority of the idiots would not risk that type of money knowing they don't stand a cats in hell chance of winning the tournament. I'm quite a relatively tight player to start off with in Tournaments and gradually become more passive as the Tournament evolves. I made it very clear the hands I generally liked to play, and got quite a lot of respect on the table when I raised pre and post flop. The player who happened to knock me out of the Tournament had in capitals written as my notes 'AN IDIOT!', which followed by 'Called an All-In pre-flop with 7-4 and got lucky on the Turn/River'. I was dealt A,A (Which of course is always a nice hand to pick up - especially when the player involved has called). I raised 400, knowing he would definately call me. My plan was to move all-in as soon as a Picture Card comes in the Community Cards. On the Flop and Jack and Queen are on the Board. I slowly move All-In. He calls straight away and displays a J,5o. A 5 comes on the River and thats the end of me.


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I can usually take Bad Beats on the chin and get on with it but this one inparticular really annoyed me because I knew the type of player he was, and I knew I was favourite all along and he was getting continuously lucky. I just had some questions about the hand, maybe you can help me analyse it. What were the percentages Pre and Post flop for us both and what were the odds of him getting a 5 on the River after having a pair of Jacks already?

If you also joined the tournament, and faced a similar beat or made a decision you regret, post here - If you got into the money, then congratulations to you!

Michael West
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holduplaya

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I find it hard to believe this is the hand that knocked you out. Only because from my calculations you still had 450 chips after this hand. The reason he called is he had middle pair as well as a back door flush draw. He must have anticipated you were holding a low pocket pair because your pre-flop bet was alittle weak. I say you played it kind of weak preflop and he just played like it was his last hand of the tourney or he says to himself I'm still lucky.

I guess after seeing only the flop and you are all-in or you put your opponents all-in it will all come down to luck cause there is still two unseen cards. This happens to me all the time this is why I hate going all in during a tourney when I don't have the nuts.
 
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Your right, this wasn't the exact hand that knocked me out, but it was the hand which did the most damage to my stack and gave me no option but to move all-in with my next half decent hand. With the blinds 50-100, and having only four blinds left, I had no room to manoeuver.

Personally, I consider four times the big blind quite a considerable bet. If I raised too much, I might of not got my caller to carry on with his Hand. I wanted a player with my Aces.

No player who knows how to play properly can really move all the chips in on a Backdoor Flush Draw. I also can't see him putting me on a low pocket pair because of the way I have been playing in the whole tournament. I certainly wouldn't raise 4 times the big blind in Middle Position with a low pocket pair.
 
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holduplaya

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Your notes on him say IDIOT if I'm correct he would have not recognized how you played, therefore he would think to himself I got middle pair a back door flush draw only 900 chips left. geez I made a bad mistake calling the 400 now I only have 500 a back door flush draw middle pair. Hmmm I don't know what mwesty has she must be trying to steal the pot with AK with the luck I have experienced in the past I think I could pull this one off I'll just call. somewhere in his thoughts must have been I will only have 500 chips left if I fold whats the use?

Correction from the last post you actually had 750 chips after this hand.

My point being sometimes when a guy is on a hot streak he's unbeatable for awhile and it is dangerous to go all-in when you don't know if you are going to end up with the nuts or not.

As I was typing this post I just got beat I had AA went all-in and against Qd4d on the turn he had a 3 to 7 straight. gambling.
 
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