$1 MTT: AK and more gross decisions

OzExorcist

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Villain is relatively new to the table, so don't have much of a read in this case.

full tilt poker Game #5192285343: $1 + $0.25 Sit & Go (39461291), Table 6 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:44:34 ET - 2008/02/09
Seat 1: Ash Smith (5,830)
Seat 2: fillmoore (9,550)
Seat 3: Sascha Biorac (2,610), is sitting out
Seat 4: OzExorcist (4,665)
Seat 5: K3NN3DY (1,785)
Seat 6: bgoddessss (3,455), is sitting out
Seat 8: FAMOUS5 (10,845)
Seat 9: lansador (3,580)
bgoddessss posts the small blind of 40
FAMOUS5 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to OzExorcist [Ah Kh]
lansador calls 80
Ash Smith folds
fillmoore folds
Sascha Biorac folds
OzExorcist raises to 300
K3NN3DY folds
bgoddessss folds
FAMOUS5 folds
lansador calls 220
*** FLOP *** [Jh Js 9s]
lansador checks
OzExorcist bets 500
lansador calls 500
*** TURN *** [Jh Js 9s] [Jd]
lansador checks
OzExorcist checks
*** RIVER *** [Jh Js 9s Jd] [Qs]
lansador bets 1,720

I'm starting to think I should've bet the turn... but as played, thoughts? Does villain call pre-flop and flop with anything that we still beat?
 
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Gross decision? You don't have any decision to make you have nothing...Your bet on the flop was ok, but after he called you should just give up unless you hit your hand.
 
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Yep, pretty standard here. Readless there's nothing we can do but assume he's got us beat most of the time, and will almost never fold on that turn if he does.
 
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At this stakes in these spots you get called all the time by AT, KQ, KJ, QJ, JT, J9. I'm not sure that I would even lead on this flop.
 
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low stakes= more bad players that get lucky half the time....from my experance
 
OzExorcist

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Guess there's not as much to cover in this one as I thought.

I did fold the river - though I thought about calling... which probably means I need to lay off the Kenny Tran videos a bit :p

It was more the turn that I thought was gross - true, there's no way anything that had me beat on the flop is folding if I bet the turn, but at that stage I think I still beat most of his range (KQ / AQ / AT and lower / miscellaneous garbage) and maybe I've got any low-mid pocket pairs nervous.

Dunno - I don't hate how I played it, I just thought I missed an opportunity on the turn. Spewy much?
 
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I did fold the river - though I thought about calling... which probably means I need to lay off the Kenny Tran videos a bit :p

Classic line right there Oz.


PF is fine, the cbet is fine, after that I'm done with the hand.
 
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well your decision on the turn was easy but i dont think you played the flop right...in these stakes i check to him and depending on his bet i decide what i wanna do, for example just call and see if he continues betting or if he checks on the turn or i might re raise on the flop to see where i stand. You know what i mean?
 
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no, i wouldnt have shoved that turn, thats just asking for trouble. Also insta fold river. We beat absolutely nothing in villains range, nothing. We would be hoping for a tie against a,rag
 
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no, i wouldnt have shoved that turn, thats just asking for trouble. Also insta fold river. We beat absolutely nothing in villains range, nothing. We would be hoping for a tie against a,rag

Actually, I beat any ace that hasn't paired its kicker. Note that villain's river bet is exactly the size of the pot too - I couldn't work out if that was deliberately suspicious, genuinely suspicious, a bluff or a really crap value bet...

It was the other possible hands (A9 / AQ / KQ or any lucky hand with a J in it) that made me fold.

As for people suggesting I don't bet that flop... really?!? I c-bet this pretty much every time: if villain doesn't have a piece of the flop (and on a flop like this, it's more likely they've missed than if it comes, say 2-T-8, which I'd also c-bet) I take it down right there and then and because I've raised a decent amount before the flop, I'm adding a decent amount to my stack.

Anywho, I went on to finish 8th in the tournament... and then decided that really, $2.70 is a lousy rate of pay for two and a bit hours work, so maybe I should just stick to the STTs for the time being :p
 
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Actually, I beat any ace that hasn't paired its kicker.

Very true, sorry my mistake for not reading post properly and being rubbish at poker and not being able to work that out
 
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Very true, sorry my mistake for not reading post properly and being rubbish at poker and not being able to work that out

:p

It's largely academic anyway, if I called this and ended up beating ace-rag, I'd probably still have to write it off as a bad call that got lucky :eek:
 
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