$1.75 NLHE STT Turbo: Playing with risky board texture

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HERO (MP) 1550
VILLAIN #1 (EP) 1300
VILLAIN #2 (Button) 1870

Blinds 15/30
Villain #1 Calls 30
HERO was dealt :as4: :kd4:
Hero raises to 150, everyone else folds Villain #1 and #2 calls.
POT : 480
Flop comes :10c4: :ad4: :jd4:
Villain #1 Checks, Hero bets 480, Villain #2 re-raises all-in, Villain #1 folds. Hero ???

I am wondering if this was a right play by me? I find it difficult to play when there are multiple callers and a risky board, I was thinking maybe check/calling to river then value bet to keep bet small?

Any advice/ suggestions will be appreciated.

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What do you think villians range is for calling a 5x BB raise?

Also don't include results it could sway peoples advice.
 
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With info given I think it's okay. I never raise 5x BB and suggest no more than 4x and 3x from MP. Post flop I rarely bet pot size unless texture is wet. So don't really mind it here. With no reads on player and such a huge pot I call for sure at this level. TPTK is the nuts in a micro stakes STT.

Also if you would have raised less pre it the pot wouldn't be so inflated and you MAY be able to let this one go. As played and with no more info, prolly I do the same.
 
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With info given I think it's okay. I never raise 5x BB and suggest no more than 4x and 3x from MP. Post flop I rarely bet pot size unless texture is wet. So don't really mind it here. With no reads on player and such a huge pot I call for sure at this level. TPTK is the nuts in a micro stakes STT.

Also if you would have raised less pre it the pot wouldn't be so inflated and you MAY be able to let this one go. As played and with no more info, prolly I do the same.
In micros I think 5x isn't bad if people are calling. Ideally you want 1- 2 callers. If the table is loose and 3xBB gets a massive 6-way pot this isn't idea. Although AK plays well multiway, the odd spiked two pair will give you massive RIO. TBH I don't think you're ahead of much on this flop especially when he shoves. Fold and play on with over 30BB's.
 
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I removed your results - please leave them out of future posts, as they can make the answers biased.

Your bet sizing everywhere is a little big imo, but yeah I'm not trying to fold this once we hit TPTK, especially once we've committed so much.
 
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Yeah bet sizing is huge, but if you are just starting out, it's ok i guess.
 
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Thanks for all the advice. I'll work on the bet size, I'll bet out 2/3 of the pot next time. My playing style is kind of over-aggressive (maybe trying to play like durrr? haha), probaly a bad thing but I'll start betting less from 2/3 to 3/4 pot size.
 
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Remember to eventually post the results for those of us that didn´t see them!
 
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^^ A2-AJ, straight draws, smaller pocket pairs. Even J7s lol. This is how it is in the micros. Well ahead of most fishy players preflop call range IMO. Unless you have other info assume all players at this level are fishy in one way or another.
 
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Your in the bubble and hit top pair top kicker. The hands we are losing to are KQ, AJ, AT, AA, JJ, and TT. Villain could be playing Ace with a weaker kicker, Kx for an inside straigt draw, or worse. I would put villain either more on Ace rag however since villain would probably want to slow play to get more value if he had a straight, especially at the bubble. I would have shoved on the flop to get villain to fold and take down the small pot but I think a call here is not too bad.
 
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Pre flop bet not good. you are out of position with the best drawing hand pre-flop. I like 2.5-3x BB raise MAX

Flop bet: with the pot as big as it is you should bet 2/3-3/4 of pot or just go all in. (pot size bet you are committed anyway) At this level likely get called by gut str8 draws and A lower kicker. but also could be against 2 pair. (but if so you still got outs)

I would suggest looking at controlling the pot with your betting. Poker is a long game so be patient. Good hands like AK loose to weaker hands. TPTK is not always good in showdown (especially once you move up in stakes). Dont be so anxious to get it all in and build a huge pot when you get some good pocket cards.

Not sure if true but from your post and play you play Ultra-Aggressive. This is good but I would suggest toning it down a notch when in EP-MP. HJ, CO, and BTN are good to be aggressive as you get all the info before you act. Out of position it is more difficult and requires durrr like skills :) Ex: In this hand you would have a lot more info and control if you were last to act...
 
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^^ A2-AJ, straight draws, smaller pocket pairs. Even J7s lol. This is how it is in the micros. Well ahead of most fishy players preflop call range IMO. Unless you have other info assume all players at this level are fishy in one way or another.

We have no stats on villian so it's all speculation but IMO he isn't going to shove with Ax (x<T) over a PFR's big pot sized c-bet which screams strength. This hand was kinda ruined from the start with the 150 pre flop raise, but you can still get away with 1,000 chips which is over 30BB. No reason to go broke.
 
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