This one I won the allin in the semi-bluff ... but look at the hand she called


PokerStars, $0.98 + $0.12 - Hold'em No Limit - 50/100 (12 ante) - 9 players
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kroniculus (UTG): 10,697 (107 bb)
Sliding_Shiny (UTG+1): 4,500 (45 bb)
NoBADStodaY (MP): 4,758 (48 bb)
musalav77 (MP+1): 5,783 (58 bb)
BARSIK705 (LP): 3,375 (34 bb)
Ane1970 (CO): 9,028 (90 bb)
1Milhão$emNada (BU): 2,681 (27 bb)
badger/pit (SB): 9,640 (96 bb)
scam bizzle (BB): 4,644 (46 bb)

Pre-Flop: (258) Hero (1Milhão$emNada) is BTN with K♣ T♣
1 fold, Sliding_Shiny (UTG+1) calls 100, 3 players fold, Ane1970 (CO) calls 100, 1Milhão$emNada (BU) raises to 375, badger/pit (SB) calls 325, 1 fold, Sliding_Shiny (UTG+1) calls 275, Ane1970 (CO) calls 275

Flop: (1,708) Q♠ 8♣ 9♣ (4 players)
badger/pit (SB) checks, Sliding_Shiny (UTG+1) checks, Ane1970 (CO) checks, 1Milhão$emNada (BU) bets 2,294 (all-in), 2 players fold, Ane1970 (CO) calls 2,294

Turn: (6,296) 8♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (6,296) 6♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 6,296

Showdown:
1Milhão$emNada (BU) shows K♣ T♣ (a pair of Eights - higher kicker)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 67%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%)

Ane1970 (CO) shows 4♣ 7♣ (a pair of Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 33%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 14%, River: 0%)

1Milhão$emNada (BU) wins 6,296

Originally Posted by I Live Poker

This one I won the allin in the semi-bluff ... but look at the hand she called


PokerStars, $0.98 + $0.12 - Hold'em No Limit - 50/100 (12 ante) - 9 players
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kroniculus (UTG): 10,697 (107 bb)
Sliding_Shiny (UTG+1): 4,500 (45 bb)
NoBADStodaY (MP): 4,758 (48 bb)
musalav77 (MP+1): 5,783 (58 bb)
BARSIK705 (LP): 3,375 (34 bb)
Ane1970 (CO): 9,028 (90 bb)
1Milhão$emNada (BU): 2,681 (27 bb)
badger/pit (SB): 9,640 (96 bb)
scam bizzle (BB): 4,644 (46 bb)

Pre-Flop: (258) Hero (1Milhão$emNada) is BTN with K♣ T♣
1 fold, Sliding_Shiny (UTG+1) calls 100, 3 players fold, Ane1970 (CO) calls 100, 1Milhão$emNada (BU) raises to 375, badger/pit (SB) calls 325, 1 fold, Sliding_Shiny (UTG+1) calls 275, Ane1970 (CO) calls 275

Flop: (1,708) Q♠ 8♣ 9♣ (4 players)
badger/pit (SB) checks, Sliding_Shiny (UTG+1) checks, Ane1970 (CO) checks, 1Milhão$emNada (BU) bets 2,294 (all-in), 2 players fold, Ane1970 (CO) calls 2,294

Turn: (6,296) 8♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (6,296) 6♥ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 6,296

Showdown:
1Milhão$emNada (BU) shows K♣ T♣ (a pair of Eights - higher kicker)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 67%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%)

Ane1970 (CO) shows 4♣ 7♣ (a pair of Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 33%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 14%, River: 0%)

1Milhão$emNada (BU) wins 6,296

Hmmm - yeah, donks do donk things.

So, pre-flop, I'm not in love with your raise here. As a default, this is perfectly fine, however, with limping donks who are just going to call anyway, we put ourselves in a dicey situation.

At a minimum, we need to be raising our maximum size here so that we can generate what little fold equity there is while maximizing limpers' mistakes. Since we only have 22BB ourselves, we're going to be challenged to do that and are in a less than good spot.

Honestly, I think I prefer jam in this spot, or call, and you know, a pre-flop fold isn't a horrible option either as we can't really make a raise that accomplishes anything, short of an all-in. Maybe, 6BB might work, but everyone has lots of chips, and as you can see they had no problem calling almost 4BB with 47.

Next, the jam on the flop is generally not good either. Doing this (normally) allows our opponents to play perfectly against us - they can fold all the hands we beat, and call all the ones we don't, which is exactly the opposite of what we are trying to accomplish - it's actually pretty slim that we get called by worse here.

As you can see though, we've ended up in a very awkward spot brought on by our ineffective raise pre-flop.

20BB is a interesting stack size where we're basically looking to find a spot and get it in. I think jam/fold/call are your pre-flop options here at these donk-filled stakes; if this were a higher level game, I think call/fold are your options.