$1.10 NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: $1.10 Deep NLHE MTT - Made On The Turn

[BearPlay]

New table so no reads. I made my straight on the turn with a K flush draw to come. Rivered a heart and thought I was golden. Lost to the nut flush. Should I have shoved the turn? I didn't put this guy on a heart draw.


Game #75930202-111: Nightly $1.10 - $500 Gtd [Deep] - No Limit Holdem Tournament - 125.00/250.00
Seat #0: nyteowl44, $4980.00
Seat #1: BearPlay (D), $5936.00
Seat #2: elwood555 (SB), $6845.00
Seat #3: LuckyNotGood24 (BB), $22230.00
Seat #4: FrankpinkWhite, $34410.00
Seat #5: msroboto2, $4138.00
Seat #6: woohoosue1, $15274.00
Seat #7: IamTheGrinch, $12107.00
Seat #8: ikeallu, $6780.00
*** Blinds ***
elwood555 posts the small blind of 125.00
LuckyNotGood24 posts the big blind of 250.00
*** Pre-Flop ***
BearPlay got hole cards [ K :hea: 8 :hea: ]
FrankpinkWhite folds
msroboto2 folds
woohoosue1 raises with 500.00
IamTheGrinch folds
ikeallu folds
nyteowl44 folds
BearPlay calls 500.00
elwood555 folds
LuckyNotGood24 calls 250.00
*** Flop *** Pot: 1625
[ 9 :clu: Q :clu: T :hea: ]
LuckyNotGood24 checks
woohoosue1 bets 1000.00
BearPlay calls 1000.00
LuckyNotGood24 calls 1000.00
*** Turn *** Pot: 4625
[ 9 :clu: Q :clu: T :hea: ] [ J :hea: ]
LuckyNotGood24 checks
woohoosue1 checks
BearPlay bets 1010.00
LuckyNotGood24 calls 1010.00
woohoosue1 folds
*** River *** Pot: 6645
[ 9 :clu: Q :clu: T :hea: ] [ J :hea: ] [ 4 :hea: ]
LuckyNotGood24 bets 6870.00
BearPlay goes all-in with 3401.00
*** Showdown *** Pot: 16916
LuckyNotGood24 shows [ 9 :hea: A :hea: ]
BearPlay shows [ K :hea: 8 :hea: ]
BearPlay is out
LuckyNotGood24 wins 13672.00
LuckyNotGood24 wins 3469.00



I used the online Merge converter at http://poker.allanmc.dk/ as I don't have HM or PT.

Not sure how to display the card symbols as images ;/

 

[BearPlay]

I found a better hand converter:


Merge Network Nightly $1.10 - $500 Gtd [Deep] No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125.00/t250.00 Blinds + t25.00 - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): t5936.00 M = 9.89
SB: t6845.00 M = 11.41
BB: t22230.00 M = 37.05
UTG: t34410.00 M = 57.35
UTG+1: t4138.00 M = 6.90
UTG+2: t15274.00 M = 25.46
MP1: t12107.00 M = 20.18
MP2: t6780.00 M = 11.30
CO: t4980.00 M = 8.30

Pre Flop: (t600) Hero is BTN with K

8

2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t500.00, 3 folds, Hero calls t500, 1 fold, BB calls t250

Flop: (t1850) 9

Q

T

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets t1000.00, Hero calls t1000, BB calls t1000

Turn: (t4850) J

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets t1010.00, BB calls t1010, UTG+2 folds

River: (t6870) 4

(2 players)
BB bets t6870.00, Hero calls t3401 all in

Final Pot: t13672
Hero shows K

8

BB shows 9

A

(Flush Ace High)
BB wins t10203
BB wins t3469.00

 

[Arjonius]

Fold pre-. You obviously have position, but you rate to be somewhat behind to opener's range and you really can't stand a 3bet from either blind even in position and even though they might be squeezing. Plus it's a cheap call for the big-stacked BB, so there's a decent chance you'll see the flop three ways. With limited implied odds due to your stack size, it doesn't look like a favorable spot to play a marginal hand for even a min-bet.

As played, fold the flop. You have an over, a gutshot and a backdoor flush draw. Again, this doesn't look like a favorable spot to put more chips in the pot.

As played, I'm inclined to shove the turn. If I take the pot, I increase my stack by 80% and gain substantial playability. If he mistakenly calls, I want his mistake to be as big as possible.

 

[BearPlay]

Thanks, Arj, I really appreciate the feedback. K9s is not normally a hand that I would play, but considering IP and M<10, I felt like I need to make a move.

Again, normally, I wouldn't call to a gutshot on the flop, but as I had no reads on the table, I felt like the bigstack might be pushing air. Obv I was wrong

Another learning opportunity

Just wanted to say that I always appreciate your helpful and insightful posts. Thank you

 

[hffjd2000]

I think you just invited your opponent on the turn to call.
On the river, you have to pay him off. No regrets.

 

[BearPlay]

I think you just invited your opponent on the turn to call.
On the river, you have to pay him off. No regrets.

Ahhh, you're so right about that on the turn.

And thanks for the support on the river

Appreciated!

 

[Scrover]

Folding preflop would be the first thing to think about. Anyway, you raised, so playing the way you did was fine. Bet around that amount you did (maybe slightly more) on the flop and around 70-75% because you have two customers and if one of them have a king, eight or lower flush draw, they will call on the turn (all you want to call except AK even though you have the second nut flush draw). Once you made the flush and he shoves, it looks a lot like he hit, but you are committed and you have the second nuts, so the call on the river was obviously fine.

 

[BearPlay]

Folding preflop would be the first thing to think about. Anyway, you raised, so playing the way you did was fine. Bet around that amount you did (maybe slightly more) on the flop and around 70-75% because you have two customers and if one of them have a king, eight or lower flush draw, they will call on the turn (all you want to call except AK even though you have the second nut flush draw). Once you made the flush and he shoves, it looks a lot like he hit, but you are committed and you have the second nuts, so the call on the river was obviously fine.

Hey Scrover!

Actually I called, not raised, the flop but you and Arj are right. I should have pre- followed my normal game and folded such a mediocre hand And I agree, the way I played it out, I should have bet more, probably shoved, the turn

Thanks for the feedback!

 

[el_magiciann]

Fold pre flop would be better, but after hitting tht gut shot at the turn and having even better draw (flush draw 2nd possible nuts) its hard to fold your hand , the worst thing is that you thought the villain didn't have 2hearts... and this is where u lose the hand, i think if you put him on flush draw with Ah u could shove at the turn and he could fold his big draw.. Unlucky cooler here.

 

[jaworek1405]

New table so no reads. I made my straight on the turn with a K flush draw to come. Rivered a heart and thought I was golden. Lost to the nut flush. Should I have shoved the turn? I didn't put this guy on a heart draw.

I'm not sure if call pre flop is right decision. As played- more on the turn, you did bet about 1/5 of the pot. The river - I think you have to call with the second flush, I don't see any escape here.

 

[BearPlay]

Fold pre flop would be better, but after hitting tht gut shot at the turn and having even better draw (flush draw 2nd possible nuts) its hard to fold your hand , the worst thing is that you thought the villain didn't have 2hearts... and this is where u lose the hand, i think if you put him on flush draw with Ah u could shove at the turn and he could fold his big draw.. Unlucky cooler here.

I'm not sure if call pre flop is right decision. As played- more on the turn, you did bet about 1/5 of the pot. The river - I think you have to call with the second flush, I don't see any escape here.

Agree totally! I hacked this hand! Thanks for your feedback!

 

[Ronoh]

As suggested, preflop and flop are folds

As played, shove the turn. Anyone holding AK is unlikely, any K is coming along and dead to a split, you'll get the occasional call with an 8, more in the pot than you have in your stack (and flush draws are the nutz anyways) so in addition to the nut draw most dead flush draws are coming along as well and we've all played the game enough to not be surprised in the slightest if a set or 2P come along as well.

Happily shove all day long

 

[horizon12]

We have only 20bb, in preflop this marginal call, but not very bad because we play vs cheap leader ( but most cases fold 90% in preflop ) , table we do not know, but I can imagine that it aggressive player.. In flop when villain cbet, i shove my hand with overpair , gutshot straight and backdoor flush. it will be zero solution , but when you call this bad decision , not +EV , my range for UTG this TJ, AT+ , many pair,, BB call because have very good odds, this light range,,, I will not paint equity you can himself but shove in flop this fine,,,

 

[Arjonius]

One other thing. You've very likely played against these people before. So depending how much on a person by person basis, it isn't (or shouldn't be) the case that you have no reads whatsoever.

 

[BearPlay]

Actually, this was a new table and new people with whom I had not played before, but I appreciate all of the feedback and have taken it into sharpening up my skills. Thanks!