$0.50 NLHE MTT Turbo: shoving 15 BBs vs 2 limpers

[tewwa94]

I find it so difficult to come up with an absolute answer on some short stacked spots, and the fact that there are often some limpers makes it harder. Sometimes I've shoved and they show hands that dominates my range or they have a better ace, sometimes a silly JTo, etc. It's simple to follow push/fold charts when there aren't limpers...

15 BBs on CO I'm shoving 22+,Ax,K7s+,KTo+,Q8s+.QTo+,J8s+,JTo and some T8s 89s here and there, but how would that range change vs 1 or 2 players?

PokerStars - 40/80 Ante 10 NL - Holdem - 7 players


UTG: 25.74 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
UTG+1: 26.51 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 21)
MP: 17.91 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (CO): 15.62 BB
BTN: 16.11 BB (VPIP: 4.76, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
SB: 66.86 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BB: 42.61 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)

7 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.37 BB) Hero has 2:heart: A:heart:

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, MP calls 1 BB, fold, BTN raises to 15.99 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 14.99 BB

Flop: (35.35 BB, 2 players) 9:heart: T:heart: 2:diamond:

Turn: (35.35 BB, 2 players) Q:spade:

River: (35.35 BB, 2 players) 3:heart:

MP shows 2:spade: 2:club: (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 11%, Flop 84%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows Q:club: Q:heart: (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 89%, Flop 16%, Turn 100%)
BTN wins 35.35 BB

 

[Grearix]

what happened post flop is not relevant. We're talking pre flop here and you folded pre flop, if that's the right decision? I think it is. 15BB is too early in my opinion to go all-in on a hand like that.

 

[jrx1908]

Since put the villains in a range, you find profitable call with A2s ??

 

[Matt Vaughan]

I think it's an important to note that there's only one limper here, and they are in MP, not early position for example. I probably WOULD be jamming this hand. It actually becomes more profitable than if there are no limps, because there is more money to go after in the middle.

This only really changes if this is the kind of player who is only limping in with reasonably nutted hands where they're always planning to call off to jams. MP is also a little above us in terms of stack size. At 17+bb I expect to see less of this slow play preflop stuff. With a shorter stack of say 10-12bb I think it's more common.

So I would have jammed personally.