$0.50 NLHE MTT: KK pre: 3-bet to a quarter of my stack vs an UTG raise, call flop shove?

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$0.50 NLHE MTT: KK pre: 3-bet to a quarter of my stack vs an UTG raise, call flop shove?

poker stars $0.45+$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 8 players - View hand 1920460
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BB: t1035 6.90 BBs
UTG: t3095 20.63 BBs
UTG+1: t815 5.43 BBs
MP1: t1075 7.17 BBs
MP2: t4160 27.73 BBs
CO: t3280 21.87 BBs
Hero (BTN): t4195 27.97 BBs
SB: t2156 14.37 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is BTN with K
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K
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UTG raises to t450, 4 folds, Hero raises to t1000, 2 folds, UTG calls t550

Flop: (t2225) 7
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A
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7
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(2 players)
UTG bets t2095 all in

Seems like a classic stop and go, but weird that he'd do that with his stack size and an UTG raise, should I call here?
 
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Shove pre.

Genuinely didn't even think of that, but yeah. Shove pre. 28bb deep, standard raise will blow a huge chunk of my stack, he's basically calling 100% of the time vs a 3-bet shove...

Should I be shoving JJ+/AKs+ always?
 
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His stack size is the one the relevant here since it's the smaller of the 2 and since he raised UTG his range is going to be strong enough to call a shove almost always.
 
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+1 to shove here, important to note we are 20bb eff once action gets to us
 
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As played tho, I probably fold
 
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As played I'd never fold. He'll have an Ace here pretty infrequently actually because generally he'd let you cbet the flop if he hit TP. It would be quite odd to see him hit TP and just shove the flop like that. I'd snap call.
 
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As played I'd never fold. He'll have an Ace here pretty infrequently actually because generally he'd let you cbet the flop if he hit TP. It would be quite odd to see him hit TP and just shove the flop like that. I'd snap call.

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While I definitely see your point about him not donking the flop with an ace, I feel like at these stakes a lot of players are just shoving the ace a good amount of the time. It's a tough fold (one I probably wouldn't make) but I feel like this would be a pretty bad bluff on his part as the ace hits our range here very hard and I would be surprised if he didn't have the ace.

Agree with shoving pre.

Just my thoughts- both WV and jchoop are clearly better players than I am but I just feel like at these levels you are going to see that ace a good amount of the time.
 
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