$0.25 NLHE MTT Deep Stacked: second pair and OESD on the flop, do you call it?

[jaworek1405]

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, 0.25 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Hero (CO) (t1,500)
Button (t1,490)
SB (t1,480)
BB (t3,030)
UTG (t1,500)
UTG+1 (t1,500)
MP1 (t1,500)
MP2 (t1,500)

Hero's M: 50.00

Preflop: Hero is CO with

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3 folds, MP2 raises to t60, Hero calls t60, Button calls t60, 1 fold, BB calls t40

Flop: (t250)

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(4 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets t240, Hero folds, 2 folds

Total pot: t250

Results below:

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Hello guys, I would like to get to know some opinions about this hand. It was sng, 45 players, second hand in tournament. The flop I hit OESD, but first raiser made a big cbet, about a pot. Do you call his bet? The rest of players often had FD on this flop, so I have about 6 outs to OESD.

 

[horizon12]

SNG 45p need play more tight . Fold, very big c-bet, not have have odds for call.
Call we can not here, very cordinated board because many cards what be in turn, complicate the situation , if be blank card, what we do in turn if he again bet ( need again call nothing has changed, ) or closed flush and main factor we dont know nothing about villain . This very dificult situathion to continue the game if lost here half stack , players in this limit not very strong and u not will not be much edge with half stack if lose ,better to find another situation what play hand..

 

[jordanbillie]

From the cutoff I think I like a small 3 bet preflop in this spot. Try to get HU to the flop.

But as played and trying to blindly read this hand, I think his range includes a lot of Js, FDs, and OPs (based on the sizing and the fact that we are 4 handed.) Even so, our hand is too strong to fold and I like peeling one off in this spot. We are ahead of bare flush draws and air, and we are 40-60 against Js and OPs.

 

[invisile]

Can we like shove pre, because it is only second hand in 0.25 buy-in and there are lot of people who want to double their stacks with any pair or Ax kinda hands. As played fold flop!

 

[Arjonius]

Assuming you play at this level, you should have some feeling as to what the opponent's range is based on how people play in general. Obviously, this isn't as good as having a player-specific read, but you can only use what you know; poker is after all a game of incomplete info.

So when he cbet pot, what did you think his range was?

 

[jaworek1405]

He could have for example QQ+. Cbet is quite big. It was a second hand in tournament. I have no reads.

 

[Arjonius]

The margin for error is larger than if you have more info, but having no read on the opponent isn't sufficient reason not to think about what his range may be. Simply saying he could have QQ+ or any other range that justifies folding isn't enough. You also have to ask yourself what ranges might he have where you should continue.