$0.25 NLHE MTT: $0.25c NLHE MTT: $0.25c NLHE MTT: Call or fold the river shove?

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pokerstars, $0.23 + $0.02 - Hold'em No Limit - 25/50 (6 ante) - 9 players
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WWG07 (UTG): 1,395 (28 bb)
Danchiarello (UTG+1): 491 (10 bb)
xKLEVERx (MP): 1,470 (29 bb)
nwhitney118 (MP+1): 1,069 (21 bb)
AHDPOH.86 (LP): 1,350 (27 bb)
Cpm168 (CO): 3,217 (64 bb)
jmarcelo098 (BU): 1,683 (34 bb)
TeXn!K (SB): 1,773 (35 bb)
EErikken (BB): 3,253 (65 bb)

Pre-Flop: (129) Hero (nwhitney118) is MP+1 with 5 A
3 players fold, nwhitney118 (MP+1) raises to 100, 4 players fold, EErikken (BB) calls 50

Flop: (279) 2 6 3 (2 players)
EErikken (BB) checks, nwhitney118 (MP+1) checks

Turn: (279) A (2 players)
EErikken (BB) bets 150, nwhitney118 (MP+1) calls 150

River: (579) 3 (2 players)
EErikken (BB) bets 2,997 (all-in), nwhitney118 (MP+1) calls 813 (all-in)

Total pot: 2,205

Showdown:
EErikken (BB) shows 2 2 (a full house, Twos full of Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 50%, Flop: 87%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

nwhitney118 (MP+1) shows 5 A (two pair, Aces and Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 50%, Flop: 13%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

EErikken (BB) wins 2,205

Definitely feel like I should have c-bet flop, not sure why I didn't. Other than that I'm just unsure if I'm good here 37% of the time as is required.
 
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Its been a while, since I played these 25c SnGs on Stars, but I dont think, the average player in an event like this is overbetting the river as a bluff very often. So I think, you can fold here and save those last 813 chips for a better spot. He had a boat, which ok good for him, but you also lose to a straight or flush or even just another ace with a better kicker. I would be more inclined to call with AK or AQ, even though this time it would have been the same result.
 
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I can't think of any hand other than A4 that you beat. Raising pre is fine, but as soon as he bets the Ace, you should be looking to exit. Any other Ax beats you. by the river, he has multiple outs including trip 3s, straight, and flush.

I don't mind calling one street of Ace, but this is a fold on the river shove with less than a flush.
 
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I think, the turn call is mandatory. Hero checked back flop, so Villain can certainly be taking a stab with almost any two cards. Hero also has a gutshot. The river overbet is a different story though. As for the flop I would usually C-bet, but I would not be surpriced, if a solver told us to check back. A high has some showdown value, and we can often call a small turn bet even unimproved. So apart from the river call, this was a well played hand.
 
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What we have to ask here is what do we beat? 6x, busted draws, a weirdly played overpair like 88S+? Just isnt very much here we actually beat for 1.3x pot...looks bluffy in its own right - i just dont think many villans in the lowest levels can turn a busted draw into an all in bluff here on the river. However - villans do slowplay ALOT of monsters in these stakes. I woukd just fold river simply because there really isn't much we beat here. I can take my 16bb and find a better spot to get it in.
 
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I think a cbet on the flop, with your gutter and Ace over card would have been good.

After that, he may have c/raised you, where you could have folded.

On that board, with 3 diamonds, I think with his shove, you can find a fold.
 
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easy fold

you can't beat anything here but a bluff and at 25c game no one is donk jamming with K high

you are dreaming if u think he's value betting pair of 6 or A4 or 77,88

fold and live another day

you called and take this as a lesson that you can't call jam here next time with this kind of board with that kind of holding

only call donk jam 16bb with nuts or at least top pair top kicker for bluff catching but not with top kicker with the weakest kicker
 
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Hello, I'm rather tight player and for tight players hand like a5s is a fold pre flop from mp1 position. A5s it isn't for me good hand because of weak kicker, sometimes we can hit some strong draw with this hand. As played - on the turn I think we have to one time call this bet. On the river I prefer fold - because there are some better hands that beat us, like full house, better ace or the flush. If opponent would play bet for about 50% of the pot I can consider a call, but when play allin on the river we probably will lose in longrun. So in conclusion I prefer fold pre flop this hand and wait for better hand on this 21bb stack. GL :)
 
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