$0.25 NL HE MTT: GGPoker satellite

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Same tournament like the previews hand. 11 tickets to be won, players left around 60.

The GGPoker HUD say that BB has VPIP 24.

What are you doing on this flop?

GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 500/1,000 (100 ante) - 7 players


UTG: 7,655 (8 bb)
MP: 23,871 (24 bb)
MP+1 (Hero): 47,000 (47 bb)
CO: 8,765 (9 bb)
BU: 5,275 (5 bb)
SB: 22,700 (23 bb)
BB: 18,086 (18 bb)

Pre-Flop:
(2,200) Hero is MP+1 with 8 A
2 players fold, Hero raises to 2,000, 3 players fold, BB calls 1,000

Flop: (5,200) 7 8 A (2 players)
BB bets 4,000, Hero ?
 
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Preflop
Normally I am ok opening A8o from HJ, but in this case everyone behind have rejam stacks, and for that reason I would just have folded. I dont think, this is a significant mistake, but you definitely should not be opening wider than this.

Flop
Even though its a monotone board, I dont think, we can ever fold top two pair to this donk bet. He also dont have much left behind, so the options are either call or jam. The advantage of just calling is, it allow him to hang himself on the turn. The disadvantage is, that a fourth diamond might come, which will kill your action from hands, you still beat. So personally I jam here, but I dont think, calling is bad either.
 
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Really agree with the above on all points. I will add that if I were you in this spot I would not think villain would donk lead out too many made flushes. I would think those would go for a check raise or a donk lead on turn especially since they only need two streets to get their stack in starting at 18BBs so I feel this bet is heavily weighted towards hands that villain is donk leading for protection. If that is the case you could call or shove as Fundiver says but know also as he states that if the 4th diamond comes you wont get anymore so I think either is fine as well but I like jamming more especially since this donk lead is almost 25% of villains stack so they might feel committed to calling.
 
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Jam. If he has the flush you will remain with 29BB. If he has an A or flush draw probably will not risk to be eliminated but if you call and another diamond arrive than probably you will fold.
I don't think that folding is an option here
 
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I will add that if I were you in this spot I would not think villain would donk lead out too many made flushes. I would think those would go for a check raise or a donk lead on turn especially since they only need two streets to get their stack in starting at 18BBs so I feel this bet is heavily weighted towards hands that villain is donk leading for protection.
A small flush need to be almost as worried about another diamond coming as other made hands though. So for me I do think, this is a flush sometimes, but most likely not a K or Q high flush, since these hands dont need as much protection. But even if he have some flushes in his range, we are still ahead of his overall range. I expect to see a lot of top pair here, worse two pair and some draws like hands with the naked K or Q of diamonds. Could also be a set, but there are only 5 combos of those.
 
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@mariussica88 I'm curious, what was your move?
 
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Here is what I did :)


GGPoker, Hold'em No Limit - 500/1,000 (100 ante) - 7 players
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UTG: 7,655 (8 bb)
MP: 23,871 (24 bb)
MP+1 (Hero): 47,000 (47 bb)
CO: 8,765 (9 bb)
BU: 5,275 (5 bb)
SB: 22,700 (23 bb)
BB: 18,086 (18 bb)

Pre-Flop:
(2,200) Hero is MP+1 with 8 A
2 players fold, Hero raises to 2,000, 3 players fold, BB calls 1,000

Flop: (5,200) 7 8 A (2 players)
BB bets 4,000, Hero raises to 44,900 (all-in), BB calls 11,986 (all-in)

Turn: (37,172) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (37,172) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 37,172

Showdown:
MP+1 (Hero) shows 8 A (two pair, Aces and Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 59%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

BB shows 4 J (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 41%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

BB wins 37,172
 
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If I bet here any combinations, I would go 2.5bbs. However I'm folding pre A8o because the mentioned rejams stacks, and you don't have to go for the blinds hard against them.
Indeed, the flop is very cruel with you. :/
 
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