$0.10 NLHE MTT: OOP Limped 3-way pot

[neverbluff]

UTG: 15.64 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 2)
UTG+1: 59.49 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
MP: 10.97 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 40.84 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BTN: 74.56 BB (VPIP: 10.81, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
SB: 56.85 BB (VPIP: 44.93, PFR: 18.84, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 69)
Hero (BB): 27.72 BB

7 players post ante of 0.14 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.47 BB) Hero has 8♣ 8♥

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (4.47 BB, 3 players) 5♠ 3♦ J♥
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: (4.47 BB, 3 players) 2♣
Hero bets 1.94 BB, UTG calls 1.94 BB, fold

River: (8.36 BB, 2 players) J♦
Hero checks, UTG bets 8.36 BB, fold

UTG wins 8.36 BB

Felt like there was a couple different ways I could have played this instead.

As played, maybe I should have just called the 1.00 PSB on the river. At these stakes players like to limp any weak Ace, which we're beating besides A4. However, I feel like he could also have limped a lot of Jx hands.

Should I have instead not led the turn when everyone checked back on the flop? Or possibly raised pre from the BB? I hate playing big pots OOP, and a lot of these players love limp/calling and seeing a flop.

 

[spunka]

UTG: 15.64 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG+1: 59.49 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
MP: 10.97 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 40.84 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BTN: 74.56 BB (VPIP: 10.81, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
SB: 56.85 BB (VPIP: 44.93, PFR: 18.84, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 69)
Hero (BB): 27.72 BB

7 players post ante of 0.14 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.47 BB) Hero has 8♣ 8♥

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (4.47 BB, 3 players) 5♠ 3♦ J♥
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: (4.47 BB, 3 players) 2♣
Hero bets 1.94 BB, UTG calls 1.94 BB, fold

River: (8.36 BB, 2 players) J♦
Hero checks, UTG bets 8.36 BB, fold

UTG wins 8.36 BB

Felt like there was a couple different ways I could have played this instead.

As played, maybe I should have just called the 1.00 PSB on the river. At these stakes players like to limp any weak Ace, which we're beating besides A4. However, I feel like he could also have limped a lot of Jx hands.

Should I have instead not led the turn when everyone checked back on the flop? Or possibly raised pre from the BB? I hate playing big pots OOP, and a lot of these players love limp/calling and seeing a flop.

Why not raise pre flop and on flop, you play weak and open up for him to bluff you, on that last scare card.


He might have a jack and he might not have it, but as played he can also use it as a bluff card. your start hand is very good so play it strongly.

 

[neverbluff]

Alright, I'll try squeezing limpers more with my pocket pairs. I was treating the limps like an rfi and a call, and their ranges are probably much weaker than that

 

[cgcook38]

I like the check pre-flop with your stack size. There's not a lot of good ways to play the hand if you're called. I would have preferred a bet on the flop. You're in the blind, so your hand range is unlimited. The flop doesn't look very connecty, so you'd take it down right there most times.

Checking is also okay. Here it works out great. You probably have the best hand as 95% of Jacks bet here. The turn card seems a blank, but it gives any limping Ace a draw to the straight. Your bet is nicely sized, giving any gut shot terrible odds to call. The river is a Jack, which is a great card for you. Again, who checks a Jack behind in a limped pot here? I suppose they could have a set?

Then the villain bets pot here. This is a crazy large bet for the situation, and my first gut is that it's a missed draw. My second thought is that they have exactly A4, and that's unfortunate. It's 2:1 to call, and I would do so here. The A4 is a lot less likely then a bluff, and only slightly more likely than a random, awfully played Jack, or a very rare boat.

Calling here means you need to be very comfortable playing in the danger zone. If you're not, that might tip you towards a fold. I've definitely folded here-ish before.

 

[The Boss]

UTG: 15.64 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
UTG+1: 59.49 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 6.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
MP: 10.97 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: 40.84 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BTN: 74.56 BB (VPIP: 10.81, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
SB: 56.85 BB (VPIP: 44.93, PFR: 18.84, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 69)
Hero (BB): 27.72 BB

7 players post ante of 0.14 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.47 BB) Hero has 8♣ 8♥

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (4.47 BB, 3 players) 5♠ 3♦ J♥
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks

Turn: (4.47 BB, 3 players) 2♣
Hero bets 1.94 BB, UTG calls 1.94 BB, fold

River: (8.36 BB, 2 players) J♦
Hero checks, UTG bets 8.36 BB, fold

UTG wins 8.36 BB

Felt like there was a couple different ways I could have played this instead.

As played, maybe I should have just called the 1.00 PSB on the river. At these stakes players like to limp any weak Ace, which we're beating besides A4. However, I feel like he could also have limped a lot of Jx hands.

Should I have instead not led the turn when everyone checked back on the flop? Or possibly raised pre from the BB? I hate playing big pots OOP, and a lot of these players love limp/calling and seeing a flop.

Honestly I think you could raise because you will be OOP and thus by raising in this spot you can likely thin out the field as some players in micro-stakes MTTs tend to limp preflop yet fold if someone raises. The flop is pretty dry and a C-bet here would be acceptable unless you greatly suspect you have low fold equity postflop. I hope this can be of some help.