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Hello. Can someone help with analysis for this hand: https://www.boomplayer.com/en/31925034_71FB414B65. Should I play more aggressive postflop?
For me the main issue in this hand is your bet sizing especially preflop, where you went way to small. By going so small you invite multiway action, which is not ideal, and you also simply dont get enough value from your hand. Even on the flop I would probably go a bit larger to charge all those draws and second best hands, they can have.
The turn card was obviously not ideal, and at this point your hand has become a bluff catcher, so checking is the right play. Check-folding to such a small bet is very weak though. The spot sucks, and this is part of the reason, why you dont want to go so small and allow him to take position on you as cheaply as possible.
Hello. Can someone help with analysis for this hand: https://www.boomplayer.com/en/31925034_71FB414B65. Should I play more aggressive postflop?
After an open limp, I think $350-$400 is a better raise size.
Once you check and villain makes such a small bet, I think you have to call the turn. Maybe call another small bet on the river (assuming no more hearts or straight cards). After your check, he could have a lot of worse hands than QQ that now think they're ahead.
This is solid advice. My instinct says dude had Ah/8? I wouldve back raised to chin check him but thats my tag ass.I am going to respectfully disagree with everyone saying you played this fine pre and/or post flop. I see multiple mistakes from my viewpoint. Hopefully this helps.
Preflop is your first mistake - the raise sizing is too small for one limper in front. I would go minimum 375 - 425 is also fairly acceptable here. General rule of thumb for a preflop raise should be around "standard raise size (whatever your choice may be, mine is usually 2.5x) + 1 bb per limper + anywhere from .5 - 1bb for a "no limping" tax" - so here I would go "250 + 100 + 75 = 425" - make sense? Moving on
Post flop we go multi way which is def not ideal for QQ, but we made this bed by raising too small and now we have to lay in it - so checks to us and we bet about 40% pot...this is another bet size which is waaaaay too small. The 8h7h is pretty relevant and even though this is not the wettest board in the world it is also not one we want to be offering a good price to draws on - so we need to bet BIG here and give the draws a bad price to call - I would go about 725 - 800 (70 - 75% pot).
The turn I think is a mistake too. Checking the heart is fine - but why are we folding to such a small blocker style bet? If we are always giving him credit for hearts here and folding QQ then we are pretty much folding our entire range thus making us a super easy target. If I knew you were doing this with big overs, I would be making your life super miserable everytime a wet board comes out and you and I are at the same table.
Anyhow - it is absolutely a mistake to be folding QQ here - 99 takes the initiative to bet here, JJ bets this, JT bets here, AK with a heart bets here, AQ does the same when checked to. I think sets would have raised us already, so relatively we only lose to 2 hands being 96 and J9, how often to we run into those? We dont have to fear QJs or any other Qx hands as much - hell we block half the combos in existence and as I mentioned above we are beating a ton of hands that would take the betting lead when checked to. Even if he does have a flush for the price he played we cant fold here. HAVE to call.
As far as that goes when we call turn I would pot control and check-call all rivers that are not a heart, J, K or an A. Folding the turn just makes us super exploitable unless you had a solid note on this guy that he only bets the nuts.