So here's the deal. I've been reading through a lot of the bankroll challenges on CC and I've actually been inspired. I have my own bankroll, and I generally play live, but want to do one of these challenges playing free rolls, and building to X amount of money as a challenge. I will mainly be using the Tracker on Americas Card Room. I also want to use one of these trackers for reviewing hands, my leaks, graphs, notes, and the basic use of the HUD. Main use will be for study and reviewing hands. I used the free trials years and years ago, so I don't think I can use the free trial anymore so that's why I'm coming here. Any and all information about the comparison between the two would be helpful.

Try the trials for both...

and then also try Drivehud's trial.

There's pro's and cons for all, but I think you need to experience them yourself. People's reasons for using one particular product won't match your exact needs imho.

Originally Posted by John A

Try the trials for both...

and then also try Drivehud's trial.

There's pro's and cons for all, but I think you need to experience them yourself. People's reasons for using one particular product won't match your exact needs imho.

So I guess I'm just out of luck then? I wrote in my OP that I have already used the free trials years and years ago, so I don't think I can use the trials anymore. I tried to outline exactly what I would be using the tracker for, because of this exact reason. So that I would get responses based on my needs.

I have completed a 30-day trial of PT4 recently and have used HM2 for 1 day.

PT4 is less laggy but has an out-dated interface. HM2 seems to have glitches every now and then where pop-up window e.g. hand analyzer freezes but they are releasing hm3 soon and these issues are fairly minor.

What I have liked about HM2:

- Newer interface which would be easier for some people to use, but I didn't mind PT4 though it is dated.
- The HUD can be configured easier and the HUD stats are in a fixed position which seems to work well with PS. I found the HUD stats were in the way of player chip counts or names etc often on PT4. I liked being able to change the colour of stats and set up conditions which decide the colour of a stat to represent good/bad etc. This may be on PT4 I don't believe I checked for this.
- You can click a refresh button when looking at your live hand feed and it feeds your most recent hands through almost immediately. On pt4 i'd sometimes have to wait for 10ish seconds for hands that had just occurred to feed through. Being able to click refresh if you're impatient is nice.

All in all from my brief time with HM2, I'd say it is probably the better choice but I have not tested all features of either product.

Keep in mind they may charge extra to upgrade to HM3 once it is released.

Originally Posted by Rolco

I have completed a 30-day trial of PT4 recently and have used HM2 for 1 day.

PT4 is less laggy but has an out-dated interface. HM2 seems to have glitches every now and then where pop-up window e.g. hand analyzer freezes but they are releasing hm3 soon and these issues are fairly minor.

What I have liked about HM2:

- Newer interface which would be easier for some people to use, but I didn't mind PT4 though it is dated.
- The HUD can be configured easier and the HUD stats are in a fixed position which seems to work well with PS. I found the HUD stats were in the way of player chip counts or names etc often on PT4. I liked being able to change the colour of stats and set up conditions which decide the colour of a stat to represent good/bad etc. This may be on PT4 I don't believe I checked for this.
- You can click a refresh button when looking at your live hand feed and it feeds your most recent hands through almost immediately. On pt4 i'd sometimes have to wait for 10ish seconds for hands that had just occurred to feed through. Being able to click refresh if you're impatient is nice.

All in all from my brief time with HM2, I'd say it is probably the better choice but I have not tested all features of either product.

Keep in mind they may charge extra to upgrade to HM3 once it is released.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by MemphisGrind

So I guess I'm just out of luck then? I wrote in my OP that I have already used the free trials years and years ago, so I don't think I can use the trials anymore. I tried to outline exactly what I would be using the tracker for, because of this exact reason. So that I would get responses based on my needs.

You can contact them for a trial extension and they will generally give you another trial. It may not be a whole trial, but just email them.

There's a whole comparison here w/ PT4 and HM2 (not 3).

http://pokerleakbuster.com/pokertrac...emmanager.html

Have you tried Drivehud's trial? It's 30 days also.

Originally Posted by John A

You can contact them for a trial extension and they will generally give you another trial. It may not be a whole trial, but just email them.

There's a whole comparison here w/ PT4 and HM2 (not 3).

http://pokerleakbuster.com/pokertracker-vs-holdemmanager.html

Have you tried Drivehud's trial? It's 30 days also.

No never tried drive hud. I’ll do some research and try it.

Let us know how you feel about the comparison. I was wanting to do a similar challenge on ACR as well. I am currently using both Co-pilot Poker and HM2 to experiment with what I want. Co-pilot seemed faster to setup but HM2 provided more customization.

Originally Posted by silentbovo1

Let us know how you feel about the comparison. I was wanting to do a similar challenge on ACR as well. I am currently using both Co-pilot Poker and HM2 to experiment with what I want. Co-pilot seemed faster to setup but HM2 provided more customization.

Are you using mac?

Drivehud has automatic ACR setup.

I think either one will improve you game immensely. I was using FPDB, a free poker hud, up until recently. The extra stats and notes that I can get from PT4 have helped so much in identifying what type of opponent I'm playing against. I would simply pick the one that you feel comfortable using. The more data/experience you get with a hud, the better. The worst thing you can do is not purchase one if you can afford it.

As an alternative, try Hand to Note

Originally Posted by John A

Are you using mac?

Drivehud has automatic ACR setup.

SO far after my first experience with drive HUD free trial. I don’t like how every time it pulls up on my Poker client it has all the statistics for the HUD under the wrong names and I have to move em around, also it had me go to acr and upload hand history before it would show the HUD is there a way to reset from 0 hands so I can see my current progress and not the many hands already in the history? If I can fix these things then I would say drive hud seems to be awesome.

Originally Posted by John A

Are you using mac?

Drivehud has automatic ACR setup.

Nah, I only use Windows PCs. I'll definitely give Drivehud a try. Definitely looking for the best hud before I invest fully.

Originally Posted by MemphisGrind

SO far after my first experience with drive HUD free trial. I don’t like how every time it pulls up on my Poker client it has all the statistics for the HUD under the wrong names and I have to move em around, also it had me go to acr and upload hand history before it would show the HUD is there a way to reset from 0 hands so I can see my current progress and not the many hands already in the history? If I can fix these things then I would say drive hud seems to be awesome.

You have preferred seating set on ACR and not in drivehud. You just need to set this up correctly and then it will align properly every time.

http://drivehud.com/blog/knowledgebase/how-do-i-setup-preferred-seating/

I think PT4 and holdem manager are basically the same. The differenc between them are most in graphics and styles.
It will be interesting to you try again both, to see the best option for you.
All this required options have in both, but I think pt4 has more option in hand reviews.
I preferred the PT4. I bought the small stakes and I am thinking in upgrade it to the high stakes too.
PT4 works very well to ACR and, for sure, will be e very good tool to you.
PT4 is so easy to use and you can rearranje the stats where you want and save the layout and has a good stats review option with you styles and common avarage os your play. GL.

I use HM2 for ACR and it works really well. I saw you write above about DriveHud names being in the wrong place and having to manually move them to the right positions. This happen to me in HM2 as well. If you can get past that, it's a great software. I don't really pay too much attention to the hud honestly but sometimes I'll take a glance at and it comes in handy.

It's session tracking feature is really nice. I like replaying hands through HM2 better than ACR's card replayer. You can also look up players that you've played against and look into their stats more. The reports tab is also very useful for trying to identify you leaks.

Also, if you haven't already, check out sharkscope.com, you can track players overall statistics.

Faced with hand2note software on days. Looks like it is nice alternative to hm and pt.

I use PT4 and i can highly recommend it, it would be useful however to hear how you get on with a comparison. I took PT4 on a offer deal some time back - excellent.

I use the PokerTracker4 and I have not had any time in my life, it is quite intuitive and lighter than the Holdem, soon I will extend my version, I am happy with the results.

Has anyone tried running both trials at once?

Maybe that sounds a bit weird, but if I'm going to go 30 days on ONE trial, then another 30 days on another trial, then I make a decision - feels like I might lose 30 days of data, unless there's a way to pull all the data together under the program I choose to buy.

Does this make sense? Or can the hand data from one be merged with the other?

also a pack before choosing which software to use, I tend to HM, what did you choose? and if satisfied with the result?

Originally Posted by Anton Fedorov

also a pack before choosing which software to use, I tend to HM, what did you choose? and if satisfied with the result?

Still haven't picked yet. When I canceled my Jivaro apparently I had paid for an entire year. So I'm letting that finish out, and then I will pick. I think I'm leaning towards Holdem Manager, but still doing research. Sorry it's been so long since my reply, I forgot this thread was here.

Currently I prefer HM2, but I'm having trouble playing multi screens, what do you guys think I need to change on my computer?
If I put more memory, would it help with the resolution?

I accept opinions !!

I believe PT4 has aggression freqeuncy while HM does not. Correct me if I am wrong. I would go with PT4 because of this.

Originally Posted by m0t22

Currently I prefer HM2, but I'm having trouble playing multi screens, what do you guys think I need to change on my computer?
If I put more memory, would it help with the resolution?

I accept opinions !!

More RAM would help performance and stop freezing of the software if due to not enough RAM. If you go to task manager and your memory keeps running near 100 you would benefit from this.

@Memphis. I am struggling with this decision too and do not want to spend a $100 on the wrong one for me. In genera; people seem to have said they prefer the layout and look of HEM2 despite not always running as smoothly and find it easier to use. But I think some have pointed out that you have slightly more stats you can configure on PT4.

Despite this I am leaning towards PT4 at the moment because Pros like Spraggy use it and have not seen many using HE2 yet. I figure Spraggy does Poker for a living so there must be a reason he went for this. But I am still deciding and finding this a hard decision to make. I would like to hear from more people who have tried both.

Seen other pros using Holdem manager now. They are both meant to be very good tools. One thing I have read though is the leak buster feature is more advanced and better on holdem manager as well s son of the addons you can get, however while more basic Pokertracker already had this in built. I may look at holdem manager as I am look at a points qualifier to get 3/4 the cost. The problem though is I do not want to have to pay a load more money for additional add ons and probably would not bother so would rather a package that encompasses them. Looking at leakbuster I think the add on was another $100 which is the same price as the main product. I think this is fine if your a pro but otherwise these addition addons are very expensive.

LB has been very useful for me even thought i tranfer to using DriveHUD, i still have it the add-on for my HM2, one of main reason i have it, second is that DriveHUD doesn't have the show all hole card feature yet.

Originally Posted by MemphisGrind

...I used the free trials years and years ago, so I don't think I can use the free trial anymore ...

I haven't read the whole thread yet so apologies if this has been mentioned already:

We can give you a 30 day trial of HM2 or HM3 and I believe our guys on the PT4 can do the same if you contact us and explain your situation.


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Originally Posted by MemphisGrind

So here's the deal. I've been reading through a lot of the bankroll challenges on CC and I've actually been inspired. I have my own bankroll, and I generally play live, but want to do one of these challenges playing free rolls, and building to X amount of money as a challenge. I will mainly be using the Tracker on Americas Card Room. I also want to use one of these trackers for reviewing hands, my leaks, graphs, notes, and the basic use of the HUD. Main use will be for study and reviewing hands. I used the free trials years and years ago, so I don't think I can use the free trial anymore so that's why I'm coming here. Any and all information about the comparison between the two would be helpful.

Did you get any further looking at these? I have to admit vice versa I am looking at the huds more at the moment. Found the Pokertracker hud does not have as many default stats programmed so you not quite as ready to go and the trial has an annoying trial version keep popping up in the centre but this will obv go in the paid version, but means I have sometimes not realised when someone has bet. You can move it out the way but keeps going back. However what I am finding which is really important is the hud stats tend to appear more accurately over the players, not having to be rearranged as much. But they do say the HM2 addons are very good if you pay the extra.

just did a quick pricing research and compared DriveHUD, PokerTracker and HoldemManager.
DriveHUD has by far a better price than the 2 others

i hate poker traker programs they allow other players to spy on my history that is not good , and when i asked a company to change my username they said we can cause you will desapear the history of your hands, this is the worst about online poker

Originally Posted by gillbates21

just did a quick pricing research and compared DriveHUD, PokerTracker and HoldemManager.
DriveHUD has by far a better price than the 2 others

Just finishing my trial of drivehud. All I'll say is there is a reason it's cheaper.

I like DriveHud since it works on BOL and Sportsbetting, Bovada and Ignition as well as ACR and PS. And easily is the best bang for you buck imo

Just a thought and one you likely considered already but what ever you choose does it work on the majority of sites you play on?

In my opinion neither. At least I do not use any hud as a game and my results are great. As of the end of review of hands, I always use the combination of Universal Replayer + hands that I want to analyze that are sent to my email. It's very quiet.

Originally Posted by acemenow

I like DriveHud since it works on BOL and Sportsbetting, Bovada and Ignition as well as ACR and PS. And easily is the best bang for you buck imo

Just a thought and one you likely considered already but what ever you choose does it work on the majority of sites you play on?

Yeah, you want it to work well w/ the main sites you play on, and make sure it's easy for you to understand and use it. All of the main databases have free trials, so it's easy to figure out what's the best fit for you.

There have been a lot of comments about DriveHud being the cheapest? Not understanding this. It looked the most expensive to me unless you are playing really cheap games although looks quite fancy.

I will be having to make this decision soon too... I have no idea!

i'm holding out on HM & PT trials... i'll try these free months a little later, while i try some other huds first

I tried both trials but had a preference for PT4. However as they are developing HEM3 first and that is close to release if I am going to purchase software I do not know whether to go for that as it is likely to be a long time before PT5 is released.

Thought this thread would be more popular with so many people using huds. Anyone else tried both and got any views. Has anyone used the beta HM3 yet and does this make any big improvements?

Originally Posted by pjokay

Thought this thread would be more popular with so many people using huds. Anyone else tried both and got any views. Has anyone used the beta HM3 yet and does this make any big improvements?

The layout of the HUD's in pt4 are easily the best and the software is most user friendly. HM and drivehud don't come close in my opinion.

I started using HM3 in about a week and I'm loving it. It is far superior to HM2, both in functionalities and in computer performance, because it is lighter.
I think it's worth you to test.

Originally Posted by pjokay

There have been a lot of comments about DriveHud being the cheapest? Not understanding this. It looked the most expensive to me unless you are playing really cheap games although looks quite fancy.

It is the cheapest and comes with more built in options no matter what stakes you're playing. What's confusing?

I like Drivehud the best of all HUDs I have tried.

Originally Posted by John A

It is the cheapest and comes with more built in options no matter what stakes you're playing. What's confusing?

This quote that DriveHud is the cheapest keeps being quoted but it's pricing works on a completely different model. It does seem a lot cheaper initially but it all depends on the lifetime of the other products. DriveHud would cost me $59 initially, the $9.99 per year after. Admittedly this is a lot cheaper on the initial outlay and may indeed be cheaper overall but the others do not have a subscription, they are a one of fee of $100 so after 5 years it may possibly become more expensive, that is of course if you do not have to upgrade them in that time.

But this is not too bad for a 5 year outlay and within that time does not exceed the others. But I do not know if there are any guarantees that these yearly costs will not jump up. Also what happens if you go with DriveHud for two years, go with something else for a year and go back? Would you then have rebuy the whole product?

Overall it sounds like quite good value (although I have not tried it) and is initially a fair bit cheaper, I am just saying they work on slightly different pricing strategies so it is difficult to say carte blanche one is cheaper than the others.

Originally Posted by John A

It is the cheapest and comes with more built in options no matter what stakes you're playing. What's confusing?

Cheapest up front you mean. Pt4 is $100 for all stakes and I've had it since 2013. Drivehud is $60 and $10 a year so already would cost $110. Not sure on the more built in options either its main point is it looks pretty.

I am useing drivehud at the moment and are very satisfied with it . But there is another one that I think is very good and that is Poker Copilot.

Originally Posted by 5pAce_C0wb0y

Cheapest up front you mean. Pt4 is $100 for all stakes and I've had it since 2013. Drivehud is $60 and $10 a year so already would cost $110. Not sure on the more built in options either its main point is it looks pretty.

And I think PT4 for will be support for another few years at least! I kind of like a one off fee.

PT4