Who likes the Hidden Names on ACR?

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I for one DO NOT like it.. And whats funny is their promotion slogan for it is...GAME CHANGER LMAOOOOOO your right it is a game changer for me..TRUST TRANSPARENCY.......
WHY CAN I NOT PICK WHO I WANT TO PLAY WITH?
THIS IS A JOKE
I THINK ITS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE TO CAN"T SEE PLAYERS NAME UNTIL YOU SIT DOWN>> NOT THE PLAYERS
MAKES ME SAD BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE REASON I WILL NOT PLAY ON OTHER SITES AND YOU CHANGE IT>
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT?
 
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I think that the main thing in poker is not names or avatars, the main thing is our skills and experience, thanks to which we can make a stable profit.
 
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I think that the main thing in poker is not names or avatars, the main thing is our skills and experience, thanks to which we can make a stable profit.
Exactly..so why change it to PLayer1 Player2 Player3 Player4 Why change it? Whats the purpose? Why hide the name?
 
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Have you asked on the Official ACR thread? If you do, and get an answer, please share it with us because I am dying to know why they came up with such a strange procedure. Thanks.
 
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It's so noobs don't feel like they are hunted. But yea I'm not gonna play on ACR anymore.
 
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As I understand it, its to prevent bum hunting, and as soon as you have paid your first blind, you will be able to see the identity of the other players. I dont play much cash games these days, but for me this seem fine. Other poker sites have taken similar measures already. On 888 Poker you dont even get to select your table or seat, only which stakes you want to play like 10NL full ring, 5NL 6-max etc. Stars have something called "dynamic waiting list". Years ago some sites introduced anonymous tables, and for me the initiatives of Stars, 888 and ACR are a much lesser evil.
 
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I for one DO NOT like it.. And whats funny is their promotion slogan for it is...GAME CHANGER LMAOOOOOO your right it is a game changer for me..TRUST TRANSPARENCY.......
WHY CAN I NOT PICK WHO I WANT TO PLAY WITH?
THIS IS A JOKE
I THINK ITS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE TO CAN"T SEE PLAYERS NAME UNTIL YOU SIT DOWN>> NOT THE PLAYERS
MAKES ME SAD BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE REASON I WILL NOT PLAY ON OTHER SITES AND YOU CHANGE IT>
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT?

As you might have noticed our latest update from 4-14-2020 included some changes as to how players can observe and monitor a cash game table:

- Players' information such as nicknames, labels, and stacks are restricted to observers. Once you are dealt into the game after paying a blind you`ll unlock your opponents' information, not before.

This is meant to protect our players from predatory practices such as scripting, bumhunting, and data mining

- WPN rooms won`t run in the presence of forbidden software.

As of now, players can’t open the poker client while running prohibited software. That means you can’t play poker while using banned External Assistance Tools. We`ll be constantly updating this feature and we welcome players' feedback as to which external tools are way too much.

Players are welcome to join the discussion regarding these new features, as are meant to protect our players and ensure a fair environment for our poker community.

Learn more by accessing:

https://www.americascardroom.eu/poker-blog/2021/04/our-latest-software-update-is-a-gamechanger/

https://www.americascardroom.eu/software-game-features/player-protection/


Truly hope this information can help you better understand the reason behind.

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As you might have noticed our latest update from 4-14-2020 included some changes as to how players can observe and monitor a cash game table:

- Players' information such as nicknames, labels, and stacks are restricted to observers. Once you are dealt into the game after paying a blind you`ll unlock your opponents' information, not before.

This is meant to protect our players from predatory practices such as scripting, bumhunting, and data mining

- WPN rooms won`t run in the presence of forbidden software.

As of now, players can’t open the poker client while running prohibited software. That means you can’t play poker while using banned External Assistance Tools. We`ll be constantly updating this feature and we welcome players' feedback as to which external tools are way too much.

Players are welcome to join the discussion regarding these new features, as are meant to protect our players and ensure a fair environment for our poker community.

Learn more by accessing:

https://www.americascardroom.eu/poker-blog/2021/04/our-latest-software-update-is-a-gamechanger/

https://www.americascardroom.eu/software-game-features/player-protection/


Truly hope this information can help you better understand the reason behind.

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Thank You So Much for helping my "Couyon" self better understand the reason behind it
I don't like assistance tools at all. I think its unfair..and I don't know anything about scripting or data mining my pokername... Which goes to show I really shouldn't run my mouth until I get informed. But it sure would be nice if we could get to keep our names and still keep out the crooked fellas.
I thank you so much sir for being so nice and trying to help me understand more..
Thank You Thank You I truly appreciate you..:)
 
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Have you asked on the Official ACR thread? If you do, and get an answer, please share it with us because I am dying to know why they came up with such a strange procedure. Thanks.
Originally Posted by ACR Rep
As you might have noticed our latest update from 4-14-2020 included some changes as to how players can observe and monitor a cash game table:

- Players' information such as nicknames, labels, and stacks are restricted to observers. Once you are dealt into the game after paying a blind you`ll unlock your opponents' information, not before.

This is meant to protect our players from predatory practices such as scripting, bumhunting, and data mining

- WPN rooms won`t run in the presence of forbidden software.

As of now, players can’t open the poker client while running prohibited software. That means you can’t play poker while using banned External Assistance Tools. We`ll be constantly updating this feature and we welcome players' feedback as to which external tools are way too much.

Players are welcome to join the discussion regarding these new features, as are meant to protect our players and ensure a fair environment for our poker community.

Learn more by accessing:

https://www.americascardroom.eu/poker-blog/2021/04/our-latest-software-update-is-a-gamechanger/

https://www.americascardroom.eu/soft...er-protection/


Truly hope this information can help you better understand the reason behind.

ACR Rep


This very nice ACR Rep explains it all.
 
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As I understand it, its to prevent bum hunting, and as soon as you have paid your first blind, you will be able to see the identity of the other players. I dont play much cash games these days, but for me this seem fine. Other poker sites have taken similar measures already. On 888 Poker you dont even get to select your table or seat, only which stakes you want to play like 10NL full ring, 5NL 6-max etc. Stars have something called "dynamic waiting list". Years ago some sites introduced anonymous tables, and for me the initiatives of Stars, 888 and ACR are a much lesser evil.
Thanks fundiver...Now that I know exactly what bumhunting is and means I totally agree with you, this seems fine. And I certaintly am happy about being able to at least see whatsup when you sit in the game and start playing..You are so right ACR is the way to go.. I think sooner or later they will be able to work things out and scatter the sharks that devour the weak in a way thats totally unfair..and still be able to keep the players names.
Ty for trying to help me understand also.
 
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I for one DO NOT like it.. And whats funny is their promotion slogan for it is...GAME CHANGER LMAOOOOOO your right it is a game changer for me..TRUST TRANSPARENCY.......
WHY CAN I NOT PICK WHO I WANT TO PLAY WITH?
THIS IS A JOKE
I THINK ITS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE TO CAN"T SEE PLAYERS NAME UNTIL YOU SIT DOWN>> NOT THE PLAYERS
MAKES ME SAD BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE REASON I WILL NOT PLAY ON OTHER SITES AND YOU CHANGE IT>
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT?
Hey calm down man :)
I did not see this promotion, how did i miss it.
Well hiding names well it changes the game alot, first of all it disables HUD support, also you talking about 'choosing who to play with' yeah like you can remember thousands of nicknames.
Also with hidden names you wont be chased by some good players, and also once you sit on the table you can see how everyone playing so you can take notes i guess.
I dont know i gota see this leme investigate.
 
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Thanks fundiver...Now that I know exactly what bumhunting is and means I totally agree with you, this seems fine. And I certaintly am happy about being able to at least see whatsup when you sit in the game and start playing..You are so right ACR is the way to go.. I think sooner or later they will be able to work things out and scatter the sharks that devour the weak in a way thats totally unfair..and still be able to keep the players names. Ty for trying to help me understand also.

You are welcome. Now to be honest "bum hunting" has always been a part of cash games, and it always will. This is simply a result of the fact, that some people (like me) play mainly for profit, and to win in poker you need to play against someone, who is worse than yourself. If you are the 10. best player in the world, but always play against the 9 best players, you might have winning sessions, but in the long run you will lose. Its pretty much that simple.

The problem for online poker is, its so easy to jump in and out of tables, and therefore bum humting has been taken to the extreme. Just to give an example, before the changes on 888 Poker a 6-max cash table would sometimes go from having 10-15 people on the waiting list to breaking down completely and closing. What would happen is, that a losing player (fish) was on the table, and then a bunch of sharks would go on the waiting list.

When the losing player then stopped, his seat would be offered to someone on the waiting list. Usually some of the other players on the table would also leave, and then their seats were offered as well. However sometimes this process would end without a single player actually accepting the offered seat, presumably because either they or their seating software (script) figured out, the fish was gone. And after a few minutes I would then be the last person left on the table.

This was absolutely crazy, and with the endless waiting lists it was also difficult to get into cash games on 888 Poker. So its quite obvious to me, something had to be done, and presumably the situation on ACR has not been much different. With the new system on ACR players might still decide to leave, if they dont like the table. But at least they will then have played a orbit or maybe 2-3, before they are ready to make that decision. And this makes it more likely, a table can survive, even though the "fish" has left. This is good for the profit of ACR, and hopefully its also good for the games in the long run :)
 
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Exactly..so why change it to PLayer1 Player2 Player3 Player4 Why change it? Whats the purpose? Why hide the name?


I don't know, it doesn't matter to me.
 
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These poker sites, have such high rakes, that basically you have to play against super fishes to turn a reasonable profit.

The win rate against anyone not super noobie, is just not high enough to profit significantly while you are paying probably around 15-20BB per 100 hands in rake.

Seeing ACR doing this, just to me says, there is no money to be made at this site, only money to lose.
 
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These poker sites, have such high rakes, that basically you have to play against super fishes to turn a reasonable profit.

The win rate against anyone not super noobie, is just not high enough to profit significantly while you are paying probably around 15-20BB per 100 hands in rake.

Seeing ACR doing this, just to me says, there is no money to be made at this site, only money to lose.
And if Im not mistaken thats what the hide the name thing is all about..So you can't really find the poor player and go sit at his table. hmm ok:confused::rolleyes:
 
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I haven't playing ACR in quite some time now, but I really don't like playing no-name poker. May as well play a video game.

If they were all anonymous I'd stop playing all together. There's no fun in it without real people with real personalities and real foibles.
 
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And if Im not mistaken thats what the hide the name thing is all about..So you can't really find the poor player and go sit at his table. hmm ok:confused::rolleyes:
Like I would be fine with it, but not at the rake ACR charges. It's to high, they require the player to find a significant edge to win, and then nerf those edges into the point of being un-viable.

Like I guess it's okay, but, it starts becoming like a Casino, where everyone is a loser.

Idk, not appealing to me.
 
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Hey calm down man :)
I did not see this promotion, how did i miss it.
Well hiding names well it changes the game alot, first of all it disables HUD support, also you talking about 'choosing who to play with' yeah like you can remember thousands of nicknames.
Also with hidden names you wont be chased by some good players, and also once you sit on the table you can see how everyone playing so you can take notes i guess.
I dont know i gota see this leme investigate.


Hey I apologize for the caps.Don't mean any disrespect or rudeness..Just me being excited a bit..I apologize.
Im really happy about it being able to disable HUD support and all other programs that give a player an advantage.. I think thats so unfair.. I am sure they have a lot of players that are clueless about all of those type of tools that some players use.. I was one of them at one time..! And Im also shocked to know that some of the programs are still allowed ..I really really don't like that..
I won't play on sites that don't have names and use the Player 1 Player 2 Player 3 thing.
I just simply prefer playing with a name and getting to know the player and how he plays and he gets to do the same.
Well have you gotten a chance to invesitgae the situation yet? Im curious as to what ya think it about it all.ty;)
 
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Wow..Do I feel like a total "couyon".:rolleyes: I just got done reading some reviews about Huds on Beat The Fish. Now I get why the Player1 Player2 Player3 thingy came about. Which I absolutely love. Don't like playing with cheats..And using any kind of Hud in my book is simply cheating to me.So unfair. Poker Sites who ban Huds is where I would wanna be. Then you have to worry about the player collusion to me with the hidden names.Then you would have to be able to trust the pokersite to figure that all out as well.
Im a recreational "poor" player:eek: So happy to know that the sites are kinda trying to level the playing field until I get a grip :p:D I simply hated Bovada poker until i read Josh's review about the site. May have to check them out..But for now Im not gonna play for a while..Stick to freerolls and stakes and donations:girl::itsme:
 
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Wow..Do I feel like a total "couyon".:rolleyes: I just got done reading some reviews about Huds on Beat The Fish. Now I get why the Player1 Player2 Player3 thingy came about. Which I absolutely love. Don't like playing with cheats..And using any kind of Hud in my book is simply cheating to me.So unfair. Poker Sites who ban Huds is where I would wanna be. Then you have to worry about the player collusion to me with the hidden names.Then you would have to be able to trust the pokersite to figure that all out as well.
Im a recreational "poor" player:eek: So happy to know that the sites are kinda trying to level the playing field until I get a grip :p:D I simply hated Bovada poker until i read Josh's review about the site. May have to check them out..But for now Im not gonna play for a while..Stick to freerolls and stakes and donations:girl::itsme:
just lol
 
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I for one DO NOT like it.. And whats funny is their promotion slogan for it is...GAME CHANGER LMAOOOOOO your right it is a game changer for me..TRUST TRANSPARENCY.......
WHY CAN I NOT PICK WHO I WANT TO PLAY WITH?
THIS IS A JOKE
I THINK ITS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE TO CAN"T SEE PLAYERS NAME UNTIL YOU SIT DOWN>> NOT THE PLAYERS
MAKES ME SAD BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE REASON I WILL NOT PLAY ON OTHER SITES AND YOU CHANGE IT>
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT IT?

party poker was actually worse a couple of years ago, when they started channeling players of similar ability to play against each other in cash games.

If you were a consistent winner, they would only allow you to play against other consistent winners.

If you were a consistent loser, they would only allow you to play against other consistent losers.

If you were an average player, the same thing.

The idea of the whole thing, was to make sure that the winnings would circulate evenly throughout the tables, so that they would make more in rake.

They now say they have changed it back to the way it was, but have they, really?

Only the shadow knows for sure.
 
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Party Poker was actually worse a couple of years ago, when they started channeling players of similar ability to play against each other in cash games.

If you were a consistent winner, they would only allow you to play against other consistent winners.

If you were a consistent loser, they would only allow you to play against other consistent losers.

If you were an average player, the same thing.

The idea of the whole thing, was to make sure that the winnings would circulate evenly throughout the tables, so that they would make more in rake.

They now say they have changed it back to the way it was, but have they, really?

Only the shadow knows for sure.

That is another stupid idea, it's good for the operator, but really nobody else. Well it turns Poker into a Casino is what it does, where everyone loses except the house.

Not very appealing to me, and apparently not very appealing to anyone else as they changed it back (thank god).
 
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I don’t like it because of table selection. I’ve played long enough that I recognise names and I like sitting down at softer tables
 
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