So I'm sitting across from a Racist POS Today..

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This guy on pokerstars:

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So I wend my way through the "Customer Service", "Contact Us" maze on PokerStars. The options for contact with a problem are all multiple choice with no "other" option. So I choose "abusive chat" option and informed them that it's not chat, it's an avatar and attach the above image. I ignore the "fill in the blanks" for hand history and chat details.

About five minutes later, I see this:

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So Bravo PokerStars for the fast response.

The things that trouble me are how, with this (obviously) automated system, do they decipher the actual complaints from the inevitable mountain of crap they receive, and if they are that advanced, how did this get through in the first place? Unless, of course, there are humans waiting to deal with every complaint in seconds (this is the least likely of possibilities IMO).
 
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How does the image make him racist? I'm not saying he's not, I'm just not familiar with the image.

I think 666 has to do with the devil/satan, but that's all I know.
 
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How does the image make him racist? I'm not saying he's not, I'm just not familiar with the image.

I think 666 has to do with the devil/satan, but that's all I know.
666 inside a Star of David is pretty obviously (to me) about as Anti Semitic as it gets. I have no specific reference to having seen this image before, but I bet a few minutes of Googling will produce results.
 
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Looks like the work of a sapient human being, not a program.
I can't imagine they receive too many reports per day, as most players aren't willing to deal with the convoluted, bloated report system of PS. Most "abuse" is verbal and I reckon 99% of people simply ignore it or manually mute the perpetrator, without giving it a second thought. Sporting a racist/abusive avatar is much rarer though, and I personally have yet to encounter anything as brazen as that.
 
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My guess would be "he's 13,,," not much brain power going on there,,, :deal: lol
 
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I started turning the avatars off a long time ago just to avoid stupid people like that. No one has to be Jewish to see how easily that image might offend someone, its awful that Pstars would even allow that to begin with. Glad to hear they responded quickly.

Its not only the avatars but I've seen it with screen names especially going after Asians at Pstars and ACR recently. Seen it with too many groups over the years and I'm sick of it as well.
 
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It took a bit of digging but I finally found a Reddit thread on that exact avatar.. it's the devil's star or a satanic hexagram.

https://www.reddit.com/r/satanism/c...star/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

So yes please go ahead and explain how it is racist... ? Or is it just a knee-jerk assumption that the hexagram is only the Star of David and belongs only to the Jewish religion? Therefore "666" corrupts it and is anti-Semitic?
 
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hmm im not sure why this picture should really bother you. if he put it in to trigger people...well he accomplished that as you reported him. its hardly racist as far as i know, just some satanic BS.

i would just play my game and not care about other peoples pictures. if its really racist then im sorry i did not know about it.
 
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It took a bit of digging but I finally found a Reddit thread on that exact avatar.. it's the devil's star or a satanic hexagram.

https://www.reddit.com/r/satanism/c...star/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

So yes please go ahead and explain how it is racist... ? Or is it just a knee-jerk assumption that the hexagram is only the Star of David and belongs only to the Jewish religion? Therefore "666" corrupts it and is anti-Semitic?
Oh! It's a Satanic Hexagram! What a load of crap. Sure, you can find a Reddit thread to show it's not racist. I'm not going to research the origins of the designer's (less than ten year old) original meaning. It's a symbol that takes old, (ancient in fact, for the Star of David) or "hexagram" as you call it (it's not BTW) symbols and puts them together in a rehash of an anti Semitic trope.

I'll just post a few:

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From a University of Carleton paper entitled "ANTISEMITISM - Then and Now"



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From some asshole "artist's" protest of Vaccine rules.



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https://gyazo.com/3b425b54a1e61bc09808ff50ccc6357a

This one's a FaceBook meme to help walk you through it.
 
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The folks that are questioning whether its racist are usually racist, lol. I wouldn't even waste your time with them.

If they can't connect a Star of David and a symbol of evil and put 2+2 together and figure out the imagery then . . .
What's worse is if they try to spin it and don't consider how folks could get offended. That's a clear sign you're wasting your time.

And you definitely shouldn't post more of that type imagery just to back a claim. Most folks are going to get it and not like it. And you can't convince the ones that don't get it. Most of the time they weren't brought up to question things like that or they were conditioned to accept them like through toilet humor when they were kids.

And saying anything to convince them to see your point is a waste of time anyway. Best to move on. Just remember a lot of folks see it and don't like it and you did the right thing by reporting it.
 
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Oh! It's a Satanic Hexagram! What a load of crap. Sure, you can find a Reddit thread to show it's not racist. I'm not going to research the origins of the designer's (less than ten year old) original meaning. It's a symbol that takes old, (ancient in fact, for the Star of David) or "hexagram" as you call it (it's not BTW) symbols and puts them together in a rehash of an anti Semitic trope.

I'll just post a few:

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From a University of Carleton paper entitled "ANTISEMITISM - Then and Now"



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From some asshole "artist's" protest of Vaccine rules.



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https://gyazo.com/3b425b54a1e61bc09808ff50ccc6357a

This one's a FaceBook meme to help walk you through it.

So basically you see that particular avatar's use as stating that the Jewish people are associated with satanism or something negative, based on other instances where you have seen the symbol used with ill will towards them. Ok, well, you got your pound of flesh from PokerStars Support. I'm not going to go into this further. I don't agree that it is anti-Semitic on its own, but I'm sure talking to the player would clarify whether he is or not.
 
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So basically you see that particular avatar's use as stating that the Jewish people are associated with satanism or something negative, based on other instances where you have seen the symbol used with ill will towards them. Ok, well, you got your pound of flesh from PokerStars Support. I'm not going to go into this further. I don't agree that it is anti-Semitic on its own, but I'm sure talking to the player would clarify whether he is or not.
Yeah, I love the way you protest the argument of the pervasiveness of Anti Semitism with a little subtle Anti Semitism. You're a class act.
 
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They use that one too

Most people don't realize that
the six-pointed star is also used in witchcraft/satanism

The 666 is a reference to "the Antichrist",

a future WORLD government leader who will invade Israel,
sit in the rebuilt temple's Holy of Holys
(which represents Jehovah God's throne),
and declare himself to be God,

This is immediately prior to the return of Messiah Yeshua
to establish his 1000-year kingdom on the earth

In this case, the symbol was probably just
used by some kid for shock value

A real satanist/witch usually prefers to keep
that kind of stuff on the "down-low"


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Yeah, I love the way you protest the argument of the pervasiveness of Anti Semitism with a little subtle Anti Semitism. You're a class act.

Is that what this is about now? I thought we are talking about a guy's Avatar on PokerStars?
 
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Never knew that the Star of David is also used by satanists, just like the swastika was corrupted by the nazis.

If I were a Jew or a Hindu, I would be enraged by this fact.
 
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