PokerStars suspends money withdrawal for players from Russia

[Vallet]

I received an email from pokerstars. Deposit and withdrawal methods are not available at the moment. This is due to a large number of restrictions for players from Russia. The funds remain safe and you will be able to send a request when the situation changes.
I am making this post for those who do not read or have not received emails and are going to make a deposit. You won't be able to get a win, only a deposit back at best.
As far as I understand, real money is now equated to play money. There is no difference. I hope this information will help someone.

 

[dregan]

I'm not gloating but this should have been done sooner. The people of Russia must answer for their elected president. As far as I know from Internet sources, although there are demonstrations against the war in Russia, the percentage of citizens supporting the continuation of the war has increased. I don't understand how people can support killing other people. I understand that they are kept there in an informational vacuum and the war is presented from a different angle. But whatever the war is, it's killing people. I already wrote here and not only about the ban on the game for the period of the war for Russian players, but the site administration is more worried about its profit and the loss of site members. It is necessary to force Russia to stop hostilities by any means.

 

[SopianaeExtra]

Postscriptum; Site administration if you delete this post due to supposedly writing it in the wrong place, I will launch an action on the Internet and all Ukrainian players will support me in discrediting your site. I hope we won't quarrel.

Resorting to blackmail now? I can't see how that would in any way paint you in a positive light.

 

[dregan]

Resorting to blackmail now? I can't see how that would in any way paint you in a positive light.

No need to twist my warning. This is not blackmail. This is just a dialogue about the correct understanding of the situation.

 

[SopianaeExtra]

No need to twist my warning. This is not blackmail. This is just a dialogue about the correct understanding of the situation.

'Comply with my wants, else you'll face dire consequences.'

I miss the dialogue part in your so-called 'dialogue'.

 

[ramdon p358]

I think this can also affect Venezuela, the only deposit and withdrawal method available for Venezuela is through a Russian platform, we will see what happens in the next few days

 

[Vallet]

I'm not gloating but this should have been done sooner.

What are you happy about ? Are you trying to provoke racial discrimination that is no better than racism? This is a poker site and this theme is not intended for this.

 

[Debi]

I'm not gloating but this should have been done sooner. The people of Russia must answer for their elected president. As far as I know from Internet sources, although there are demonstrations against the war in Russia, the percentage of citizens supporting the continuation of the war has increased. I don't understand how people can support killing other people. I understand that they are kept there in an informational vacuum and the war is presented from a different angle. But whatever the war is, it's killing people. I already wrote here and not only about the ban on the game for the period of the war for Russian players, but the site administration is more worried about its profit and the loss of site members. It is necessary to force Russia to stop hostilities by any means.

Postscriptum; Site administration if you delete this post due to supposedly writing it in the wrong place, I will launch an action on the Internet and all Ukrainian players will support me in discrediting your site. I hope we won't quarrel.

All at CardsChat feel great empathy for those in the Ukraine, along with their families and friends around the world. We are a community for all fans of poker from around the world.

It has nothing to do with profit. Your post would not have been deleted - but additional threats will be and could result in additional action - that is unnecessary and will not be tolerated.

This situation breaks my heart into a million pieces - but when discussing it here we need to all follow the same guidelines we do for all other discussions in the forum.

I hope you and your family are as safe as possible and my heart goes out to you and what you are dealing with at this time. If there is anything I can do personally to assist you let me know. Feeling helpless is frustrating - my husband and I just made a generous donation to Unicef which will go towards helping children in your country but I wish I could do more.

I understand emotions are running high - feel free to message me if you want to.

 

[fundiver199]

So basically russians can still play but neither deposit or withdraw for the time being. I still see a fair amount of russians on PokerStars, but I imagine that might change, if the situation lasts. It also sounds like, it might be an effect of the international sanctions rather than a decision made by PokerStars.

 

[RustyRed83]

I suspect this has more to do with sanctions and the complications with that, rather than anything against Russian players from Pokerstars. I still see lots of Russian players at the tables, and for me personally, I have no problem with that.

 

[fundiver199]

What are you happy about ? Are you trying to provoke racial discrimination that is no better than racism? This is a poker site and this theme is not intended for this.

Being against Putins war and supporting international sanctions against Russia has nothing to do with "racism".

 

[rachelle2291]

I oppose these restrictions. I wish that every single Russian in the world was playing poker right now.

 

[BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch]

I'm not gloating but this should have been done sooner. The people of Russia must answer for their elected president. As far as I know from Internet sources, although there are demonstrations against the war in Russia, the percentage of citizens supporting the continuation of the war has increased. I don't understand how people can support killing other people. I understand that they are kept there in an informational vacuum and the war is presented from a different angle. But whatever the war is, it's killing people. I already wrote here and not only about the ban on the game for the period of the war for Russian players, but the site administration is more worried about its profit and the loss of site members. It is necessary to force Russia to stop hostilities by any means.

Postscriptum; Site administration if you delete this post due to supposedly writing it in the wrong place, I will launch an action on the Internet and all Ukrainian players will support me in discrediting your site. I hope we won't quarrel.

I don't know anything about PStars in Russia but I'm not a fan of any of these companies shutting regular folks out. The regular Russian population shouldn't be penalized or judged by the acts of their government. Its just like trying to judge regular Americans by a certain recent president and to think that the majority of us think like that is CRAZY. That type of thinking gives a wrong impression of people and is a breeding ground for stereotypes and for rhetoric that war hawks all around the world love.

If the roles were reversed and the world depended on more Russia companies that folks had grown to depend on and all of a sudden stopped because of what my government decided then I would feel resentment and anger towards that business and believe the rhetoric that they should have never been allowed in the country or we never use their service again. These types of actions are going to really upset the regular Russian folks and push them to believe the nonsensical rhetoric that the world is out to get them that Putin and Co. want them to believe.

Nor can I blame the Russian soldier as well. I'm an American and we just went into Iraq and the Middle East and we did the will of the US government the best we could and fought with honor and that's the best the Russian military can do. Its not their place to question the decisions by their government but to conduct themselves with honor and treat their enemy with dignity the best they can. I understand that civilians are dying in the fighting in the cities, that their homes are getting bombed along with their water and sanitation not working but that's going to happen. Go back to Baghdad as the US bombed it.

Is it right that regular folks on both sides of this conflict suffer for this craziness, ABSOLUTELY NO, but the Russian government isn't the only one to blame but world leaders for allowing this Putin fella to do this, the Ukrainian government could have done more to prevent or prepared for this, there are a list of folks to blame but none of the regular folks in any of these countries are to blame but the government representatives that either didn't care, said we had to pull back funding for NATO or not take an interest in events outside their borders. And I'm not just talking about the US but this silly isolationist and nationalist nonsense that's been growing all around the world recently.

So to me for all these international governments and businesses going after the regular folks in Russia is crazy. They should be going after Putin, the Russian government, the oligarchs directly responsible for this and keep the regular Russian folks out of this as much as possible.

 

[BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch]

I oppose these restrictions. I wish that every single Russian in the world was playing poker right now.

100% in agreement. If those folks want to play poker as a distraction from this crazy world or depend on it for a living then please let them!!

I wasn't affected that much by Black Friday because I played mostly live but knew a lot of folks from the casino that were and to have their lifestyle affected like that with little warning was beyond belief.

Regular folks should at least have access their money.

 

[Vallet]

Being against Putins war and supporting international sanctions against Russia has nothing to do with "racism".

Now ordinary people working abroad and having nothing to do with Putin and his views are subjected to racial discrimination just because they have Russian citizenship. Children who speak russian are subjected to oppression and humiliation. Actions against Putin escalate into hatred and racism against specific people based on their nationality. Terrible things are happening in the world. But I don't understand how a person in trouble can rejoice in the misfortune of another person.

 

[fundiver199]

The regular Russian population shouldn't be penalized or judged by the acts of their government.

Unfortunately this is way, sanctions work, and the only alternatives are:

a) Do nothing and accept Putins aggression
b) Direct military intervention

Option b) might lead to a nuclear war, and option a) will send a message to Putin, that he can just continue with the next contry, and then the next, because nobody care or are willing to do something to stop him.

Its just like trying to judge regular Americans by a certain recent president and to think that the majority of us think like that is CRAZY.

Not all that crazy given that he was actually elected in a democratic process, so clearly a large portion of americans do actually think like Donald Trump, because otherwise they would not have elected him. Even at the last election, which he lost, he got almost 50% of the votes.

I know, a lot of people dont wote, but by not showing up and voting for someone else, they are also responsible. And unlike in Russia nobody can seriously claim, that US elections are rigged. My point is, that living in a democrazy comes with responsibilities. And you just cant claim, its not your responsibility, who is the president, if you either voted for him or did not vote at all.

Now Russias "democrazy" is obviously a bit different and in the kindest of words very young and immature. But even so its ludicrous to think, Putin could remain in power for two decades, if nobody in Russia, or only a very small minority, supported him. So its more about finding out the reasons, why they support him, and what could possibly make them change their mind. Like for instance international sanctions making their life miserable.

They should going after Putin, the Russian government, the oligarchs directly responsible for this and keep the regular Russian folks out of this as much as possible.

Well they are. There is a list of Russian oligarchs and other people around Putin, which are being personally sanctioned by the EU. Their funds are frozen and their property confiscated.

Russian oligarchs' ships seized amid sanctions over Ukraine invasion - ABC News

 

[fundiver199]

Now ordinary people working abroad and having nothing to do with Putin and his views are subjected to racial discrimination just because they have Russian citizenship. Children who speak russian are subjected to oppression and humiliation. Actions against Putin escalate into hatred and racism against specific people based on their nationality. Terrible things are happening in the world. But I don't understand how a person in trouble can rejoice in the misfortune of another person.

This is obviously not nice nor fair. But at the same time its quite understandible, that peoples emotions can run hot, when something like this happen. It was also not very fun to be a japanese national in the US after the attack on Pearl Harbour.

 

[AizenFalck]

It does not seem fair to me that Russian players have to pay the consequences for what their government is doing, as a citizen, there is not much that can be done against governments, so the sanctions should be for the rulers, not for the people. For the person who is threatening the platform, you leave a lot to be desired and that is not the way to make a point of view valid, you only look bad in the eyes of others, everyone can say what they want without the need to threaten.

 

[0546474]

It does not seem fair to me that Russian players have to pay the consequences for what their government is doing, as a citizen, there is not much that can be done against governments, so the sanctions should be for the rulers, not for the people. For the person who is threatening the platform, you leave a lot to be desired and that is not the way to make a point of view valid, you only look bad in the eyes of others, everyone can say what they want without the need to threaten.

During the Second World War in germany, too, not everyone supported Hitler, but nevertheless, for many years the entire German people had to pay for his criminal actions, because if you silently watch your neighbor kill someone, then you also become an accomplice crimes !!! Yes, many people in Russia come out to protest and try to do something, but most just silently watch what is happening !!! I think this is an adequate reaction of pokerstars to the current events !!!

 

[dregan]

But I don't understand how a person in trouble can rejoice in the misfortune of another person.

Can I give you glasses? So you tell me and I will give. Where did you see in my post that I am happy? Read the post again if you have a short memory.Then he saw racism, then something else.

 

[speper]

Putin will be angry at this when he classifies everyone who applies sanctions against him as being in the list of alliances with his enemies

 

[BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch]

Unfortunately this is way, sanctions work, and the only alternatives are:

a) Do nothing and accept Putins aggression
b) Direct military intervention

Option b) might lead to a nuclear war, and option a) will send a message to Putin, that he can just continue with the next contry, and then the next, because nobody care or are willing to do something to stop him.



Not all that crazy given that he was actually elected in a democratic process, so clearly a large portion of americans do actually think like Donald Trump, because otherwise they would not have elected him. Even at the last election, which he lost, he got almost 50% of the votes.

I know, a lot of people dont wote, but by not showing up and voting for someone else, they are also responsible. And unlike in Russia nobody can seriously claim, that US elections are rigged. My point is, that living in a democrazy comes with responsibilities. And you just cant claim, its not your responsibility, who is the president, if you either voted for him or did not vote at all.

Now Russias "democrazy" is obviously a bit different and in the kindest of words very young and immature. But even so its ludicrous to think, Putin could remain in power for two decades, if nobody in Russia, or only a very small minority, supported him. So its more about finding out the reasons, why they support him, and what could possibly make them change their mind. Like for instance international sanctions making their life miserable.



Well they are. There is a list of Russian oligarchs and other people around Putin, which are being personally sanctioned by the EU. Their funds are frozen and their property confiscated.

Russian oligarchs' ships seized amid sanctions over Ukraine invasion - ABC News

Your views are from someone living in the West and not from those folks.

That US guy was elected because he was popular and unknown to the American people and his views certainly do not reflect the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS. Folks knew what Hilary Clinton represented and didn't want her. His term made the Republicans LOSE power of the Senate and turned traditional Republicans states like AZ and GA blue.

For treating the regular folks of a country, look at what the French and English did to the Germans after WWI and tell me how their treatment lead up the rise of Hitler. Trying to play tough with folks will turn them off and lead to resentment. Turn that rhetoric off.

And why would you try to make foreigners change their minds anyway????? Think about it, if a country votes or chooses a president and then invades another country and the roles were reversed with them having all the economic power and they decide they don't like what we're doing and tries to ruin the lives of average folks then you wouldn't be upset??????

We don't like Saddam and lets say Europe holds power over us and tries to make us suffer. Then you wouldn't be upset that your money is frozen? Lost your job at a company because they disagree what your government is doing and closed up shop?

I'm not justifying Putin and Co. but your thinking the Russian people can just rise up and stop them is NOT going to happen. They tried that in China in Tiananmen Square and the Tank guy "mysteriously" disappeared, lol.

You gotta walk a mile in their shoes. They don't have basic freedoms like we do and to expect them to rise up against those monsters isn't going to happen..

 

[Chica_bonita]

I received an email from PokerStars. Deposit and withdrawal methods are not available at the moment. This is due to a large number of restrictions for players from Russia. The funds remain safe and you will be able to send a request when the situation changes.
I am making this post for those who do not read or have not received emails and are going to make a deposit. You won't be able to get a win, only a deposit back at best.
As far as I understand, real money is now equated to play money. There is no difference. I hope this information will help someone.

It should be understood that the decision on restrictions was not made by Pokerstars. This happened due to the financial and economic restrictions imposed on the Russian Federation. Pokerstars had to do it.

Nevertheless, we need to remain tolerant, because these are temporary difficulties.
In addition, you can also continue to deposit and withdraw funds using the "Qiwi wallet".

 

[Vallet]

I hope other CardsChat players will be able to avoid this withdrawal problem. Maybe someone will stop playing poker over time. But I can say about myself, I became interested in poker 15 years ago, I will continue to do it further.
No prohibitions can break the love of poker.

 

[teepack]

Considering how much the ruble has dropped in the last few weeks, Russian players will probably benefit in the long run by not being able to withdraw their money when it's lost more than half its value. Of course, that assumes the ruble will make a comeback. Given the sanctions Russia is facing, it's gonna be a long wait.