The PokerStars Conspiracy Theory

[bugiardops]

Impossible that you never formulated a 'Conspiracy Theory' about the pokerstars/Rational Group.

I believe that Pokerstars looks for a "type" of player, analyzes their moves and generates a ranking (black box? jajajaja ). From this ranking, it generates extra benefits to the player. It may sound stupid (and it should be).

Do you have any theory? Even if it's to laugh, post! :five:

 

[93yogi93]

Its a tool for a mankind to calculate easely the law of karma made by Alien Rulers of Milkyway. Because government doesnt exist!

Good one:>???

 

[19aleks57]

You're right, PokerStars analyzes players and blacklists them and then closes access to games ...

 

[tauri103]

I confirm poker star analyzes your performance and your style of play at the start of the game. if you live up to those expectations. you will have better hands in the middle and end of the game. as well as several other advantages including hitting a lot of the flop. otherwise. you will only be entitled to 27 or 26 style hands and when you are lucky enough to hit a good hand preflop it will be to find yourself facing an opponent who AA or KK.

 

[MauroMMMM]

Hi! I don't know if it's a conspiracy theory, but I think the software is flawed. Anyone can check it out. If one receives a pair of 88 for example, it is very, very certain that in the rest of the table there will be another pair, or of jacks, or of 4, or of aces. And there is always a tendency to favor the chip leader. The percentages of probabilities that the software gives before the turn and the river are unreal ... That percentage does not matter, but the chips that the player does matter.

 

[Joe]

Don't give them ideas! :laugh:

 

[mkdrummey]

Stars does appear to deliver the unlikely at times, but for me ACR is by far the worst. I would say the majority of the time I am dealt a strong hand that aces are out there, eg. small blind on big blind AQs and big blind has AA. I would like to go through hand histories because this keeps happening.

 

[Joe]

I played one of my local live games last night, it's pretty good- always at least five or six tables so pretty decent money up top.


I've won before and cashed multiple times, they also run royal flush and straight flush jackpots (I won the latter with the spade wheel once [which I gutshotted on the river to beat a turned full house]) too..

Last night my AA lost to 77 (all-in on flop and he caught the gutshot on turn) and my QQ lost to 36o (all-in pre and slightly unorthodox opponent hits 6 on flop and 3 on turn).

Needless to say, I didn't cash running like that.

However, these things happen in all games of poker, live and online- not just at Stars or any other platform/table.

So while it might seem that the programming is against you sometimes, it isn't.

It's not personal, it just cold, hard, mathematical probability- which doesn't give a hoot who you are, or what you had preflop.

Sorry!

However, in the interest of keeping things on topic with the OP's premise....

Stars have house bots which are entered into every MTT, treated favourably by the RNG programming and one of these bots always places somewhere in the top 15.

Sometimes 1st. Sometimes 15th. Sometimes somewhere in between. Always massively boosting Stars rake.

Completely indistinguishable from any other player because they use enough separate bots to keep the win rates feasible.

As this results in every player, in every MTT, being cheated- needless to say it's a huge scandal when it eventually comes out because some clown fell asleep at his desk while viewing these things working away and someone out of the loop stumbled across.

Massive lawsuit payouts all round.

The End.

 

[manzanillo53]

It is possible, I do believe most site especial PS has an algorithm that deters players that have not deposited.

 

[frazzle1991]

in my opinion i tend to see them giving preference to the non aggressor and small stacks. aggressor all in with aa gets called by j4 off j fills a straight and this is a pre flop example, but it also helps me to guess my way thru wen i think about it

 

[tagece]

I don't tend to believe in conspiracy theories, but I must say I'm thinking by now that PS hates me...

 

[PokStorm]

After reflection

It happened to me to think that there is cheating in their algorithms, but after reflection it is just me who played badly. :stupid:

 

[frazzle1991]

there is definitely more to stars than meets the eye

 

[TommyT]

Stars nuts - 99

 

[lablelarry]

I find I get really bad beats after a withdrawal on Pokerstars like a punishment....but who knows

 

[Richardszabo]

I don't think there's any basis for this.I don't see the point of this theory. "it generates extra benefits to the player" why and to whom? Pokerstars just wants to make money like all the big companies on this planet!

 

[94EXPOS]

So many conspiracy theorists. Didn't Ultimate Bet ultimately die or go bankrupt because an insider or programmer had the ability to see his opponents hole cards? I do not believe that top poker sites such as poker stars would risk the value of their poker site by cheating players or rigging hands. All it would take is one fired unhappy employee to blow the lid on something like that and poof.....they cease to exist.

 

[ADRI7HO]

94EXPOS says it well, though that’s why that Black Box theory is interesting.
In any case, I trust the clean play (maybe ).

 

[ProfessorGrind]

must be true, how else can I justify losing? j/k

 

[Poker Orifice]

Impossible that you never formulated a 'Conspiracy Theory' about the PokerStars/Rational Group.

I believe that Pokerstars looks for a "type" of player, analyzes their moves and generates a ranking (black box? jajajaja ). From this ranking, it generates extra benefits to the player. It may sound stupid (and it should be).

Do you have any theory? Even if it's to laugh, post! :five:

So you should intentionally play like sh1t.... so that you can be classified as that 'type' ... & then the company helps you to win?

Yup... a ridiculous thread for sure

 

[frazzle1991]

So you should intentionally play like sh1t.... so that you can be classified as that 'type' ... & then the company helps you to win?

Yup... a ridiculous thread for sure

lol this is hilarious

 

[KeyJey]

It's hard to say what. But anything is possible. I also noticed such things that are said above. It seems to me that in any poker room there is such​

 

[teutonic1]

I think you're on to something. But you're not thinking big enough. Not near enough.

PS is part of an intergalatic energy extraction consortium lead by a many-tentacled race of super-hyper visualisation beings.

But you have their motives wrong. They do not care about little bits of green paper called money (or it digital equivalent). They get want they want when a two-outer hits on the river and sends a losing player on crazy tilt. The mental energy expended and the negative vibes generated by the tilted player is harvested by the super-hyper multi-demensional beings as a food source. Plus it makes them laugh. They get a kick out of silly humaans, and they're especially amused by conspiracy theories humaans create.

They let their humaan enablers at PS to gather and keep the high rake, No Rake-Back rake-back program and currency conversion profits. They think humaans are silly and primitive feckers. :icon_boun

 

[messats]

I confirm poker star analyzes your performance and your style of play at the start of the game. if you live up to those expectations. you will have better hands in the middle and end of the game. as well as several other advantages including hitting a lot of the flop. otherwise. you will only be entitled to 27 or 26 style hands and when you are lucky enough to hit a good hand preflop it will be to find yourself facing an opponent who AA or KK.

remember guys just like in the live games everything is random, more bad beat happen online because its fast pasted

I find I get really bad beats after a withdrawal on Pokerstars like a punishment....but who knows

i doubt it because i have watch where players with law buy ins win big, so ill say its decision making all poker hands can be beat dont think AA KK QQ or AK AQ cant be beat our mentality is that we can dominate remember its poker take information at the tables about the players youre playing

 

[Joe]

I've defended Stars forever, but I'm over doing that.

Seen terrible play get rewarded there day in, day out for years.

When I think back on all the absolute BS I've seen, again, day in, day out- I think I'm an absolute sucker to have blindly put my faith in and trusted Stars this long.

I'm an idiot!

They're a globalising corporation just like any other and their shareholders and fat cat suits are just as greedy and susceptible to the flaws in human nature as anyone else.

It's not a straight game.

The penny dropped for me last night when I was able to correctly predict the river before it hit.

I lost with KK v KJo (runner-runner jacks), the frequency I've lost in situations like this on Stars is simply RIDICULOUS. It bears no resemblance to what you would expect from the probability.

That wasn't the river I predicted, that came a hand or two later, when it goes all-in preflop...

I have 10,10 and am against 9,9 and 5,5..

There is a nine on the flop, I glance at the players' stacks and realise that I have the nines covered, but not the fives. It's at that moment I predict the five river (the turn hasn't fallen yet) and sure enough, blank turn- river five.

Overpair Vs underpair and losing is one thing but, overpair Vs underpair Vs underpair and losing to both is quite another. Getting two outered twice on the same board, lolol...

Funny thing is, I remember that kind of thing happening to me frequently in the past too.

I understand what cognitive bias means.

I've been telling myself "don't worry it's just hands per hour and cognitive bias" for years.

Not any more.

I withdrew my BR from Stars last night and will only be playing CC freerolls there for fun from now on.

I don't know what is going on at Stars, but I am a withdrawing player who hasn't deposited fluff all in a long time.

Guess they don't like that.