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Oldstrings
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Wondering which poker sites are not scams?
Roller
Legend
Platinum Level
Not sure scam is the word to describe certain online poker sites, but some sites payout easier and more reliable then others. If your a winning player then withdraws may be the focus of what sites to prefer over others.
Alizona
Visionary
Bronze Level
Most legit poker site is poker stars, circa 2011 under former CEO Isai Scheinberg.
Proof? Just ask any American who had a bankroll on Poker Stars when the USA Federal Government took away the rights and freedoms of its citizens to play online poker on the 3 major sites on April 15, 2011.
Oh you meant today, not ten years ago? Sorry about that. No clue. Maybe someday our idiot government will "allow us" to have our rights and our freedoms back someday. I'm not holding my breath. ACR is pretty good, but I have no idea if they are legit or not. Poker Stars under Scheinberg was without any shred of doubt a 100% honest, legit site... but that ownership group is long gone today. God bless Isai and son and all the great employees of a decade ago, best poker site ever...
Proof? Just ask any American who had a bankroll on Poker Stars when the USA Federal Government took away the rights and freedoms of its citizens to play online poker on the 3 major sites on April 15, 2011.
Oh you meant today, not ten years ago? Sorry about that. No clue. Maybe someday our idiot government will "allow us" to have our rights and our freedoms back someday. I'm not holding my breath. ACR is pretty good, but I have no idea if they are legit or not. Poker Stars under Scheinberg was without any shred of doubt a 100% honest, legit site... but that ownership group is long gone today. God bless Isai and son and all the great employees of a decade ago, best poker site ever...
Rockyfour
Visionary
Silver Level
They are all shady, none of these sites are owned by anyone trust worthy.
All they do is break laws and refer you to there terms and conditions. No legitimate business does this lol.
I would love if a trust worthy government just decided to host some action, and funnel the profits back into society, rather than some random greaseballs pockets (like Rob Yong for example).
The owned of these sites are just a bunch of professional angle shoots running scams, is it's how I see it at least. They got certain personality hook line and sinker. The rake is way to high, resulting in a ecosystem where almost nobody can win. They run all these angle shoots on their customers, ridiculous angle shoots that would be deemed illegal in 90% of Western countries.
These guys don't care though.
It's just so unbelievable to me a government hasn't stepped up yet. Closest thing I would say to a honest site, would be Winamax. Unfortunately their rake is outrageously high so I won't be playing there.
All they do is break laws and refer you to there terms and conditions. No legitimate business does this lol.
I would love if a trust worthy government just decided to host some action, and funnel the profits back into society, rather than some random greaseballs pockets (like Rob Yong for example).
The owned of these sites are just a bunch of professional angle shoots running scams, is it's how I see it at least. They got certain personality hook line and sinker. The rake is way to high, resulting in a ecosystem where almost nobody can win. They run all these angle shoots on their customers, ridiculous angle shoots that would be deemed illegal in 90% of Western countries.
These guys don't care though.
It's just so unbelievable to me a government hasn't stepped up yet. Closest thing I would say to a honest site, would be Winamax. Unfortunately their rake is outrageously high so I won't be playing there.
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vittopio
Visionary
Silver Level
It is very difficult to prove something, but as for me, I like ACR! There are fast payouts and sane RNG, and what else is needed for the game?
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Oldstrings
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Legit pokerstars?
Just read terms and conditions. A different company runs the real money games than the play money games. Why would that be?
Just read terms and conditions. A different company runs the real money games than the play money games. Why would that be?
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
What exactly do you mean by "scam". Those sites, that have been around for a long time and are licensed in many countries, are certainly safe overall. That list include mainly:
* pokerstars
* partypoker
* 888 Poker
The rest are basically still operating mostly in "grey markets", although some are trying to change that like - I presume - GG Poker. These sites are not nessesarely "scams", but you dont have the protection of independent government oversight.
* pokerstars
* partypoker
* 888 Poker
The rest are basically still operating mostly in "grey markets", although some are trying to change that like - I presume - GG Poker. These sites are not nessesarely "scams", but you dont have the protection of independent government oversight.
black and
Legend
Platinum Level
There are many reliable poker sites worth noting. I have 5 accounts and I think all these sites are reliable. At least I didn't have any problems with withdrawing funds. I recommend PS, 888, BOL, SB, unibet.
oldgrinder63
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Well stated! I use to play on Stars before black Friday and even did a nice cash out for 1k and yes per a bank checked mailed which actually showed up, but the check looked bad and almost fake but I ended up cashing at a Walmart so good to go there. Todays poker world good luck in getting a cash out like that approved! I guess most sites now require you roll over your deposit so many times before you can even request a cash out, even if you take no depositors bonus. What I am getting is unless you deposit with bit coin then good luck on any cash out!
filippfilm
Rock Star
Bronze Level
This is a very interesting question and it requires a detailed answer : On the one hand, the room receives a rake from the players , but if you think logically, the room will only earn with a large number of participants-players . On the other hand, if there are few participants, the rake is very small, so the room can apply additional earning schemes such as a twisted RNG.In my opinion, the most popular rooms are Poker Stars and Party Poker. These rooms are numerous and I think they have a good rake and therefore they probably do not have to resort to deceptive schemes
GeckoAA
Legend
Bronze Level
Poker Stars, 888, GGPoker, party poker they are all legit in my opinion. I have accounts at each of the above sites.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
PokerStars, PartyPoker, 888 Poker and to some extend GG Poker have aquired a license in several regulated markets and are generally not offering their services in areas, where its clearly illegal. So these sites are certainly legitimate businesses, and they are not breaking any laws.
ToNy70929
Visionary
Bronze Level
I have not had any problems with cash withdrawal at Pokerstars. Of course, sometimes you are not pleasantly surprised by the distribution of the random number generator on Pokerstars, when unimaginable combinations are laid out over and over again on the turn and river.
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daniel888
Visionary
Bronze Level
There are many good sites you can play, Pokerstars, 888Poker, ACR, GGPoker, PartyPoker, Unibet. I never have any problem with them. But I think we should verify our account before depositing to avoid some problems in the future.
Rockyfour
Visionary
Silver Level
Fundiver, I want you to do an experiment.
What I want you to do, is send out mail saying, "Give me $100, and I will give you back $200", and then put in the smallest font you can, "Terms and Conditions May Apply", and then buy a random website domain and put your "ToS" there. Have it say, "$100 only redeemable if you mow my lawn for 2 years".
Then what I want you to do, is wait, and let us know how long it takes for the Swedish FBI to kick in your door and drag you off to jail.
lol.
