guy playing like a super user at Full Tilt

[wsorbust]

I checked OPR. This guy's horrible in tourneys/multi-table sngs.

He is a low limit player, so there's no surprise he's playing such low stake rings.

My opinion is that he might be laying low in these low limits in attempt not to get caught with whatever he's using because there's No way he can play this well without something helping him out unless it some kind of unrealistic "joose streak" he managed to find himself in for a day or so. Either way, it's hard to tell without eying him up for more amount of time before making a definite conclusion.

 

[jaymfc]

he comes on and off too and don't stay long . didn't see anything unusual about his play . well he was a mini raiser, lol .

 

[aliengenius]

AG, i think you're too used to the mostly 30> BB effective stacks in tournaments. twice i've seen you shove 100-130 BBs on a 8-10 BB reraise. i mean you're usually letting the opponent fold JJ and many times QQ, which is disastrous

Um, it's $10NL-- ANY hands these guys think are worthy of a raise are NOT getting folded. Almost every player at this level stacks off here QQ unquestionably. I have seen this exact same pattern when opponent held both small pairs like 66 and AKs-- they call.

 

[blankoblanco]

i guess you'd know best. you're the one crushing 10NL. oh wait

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

If he is a super user he's not a very good one. All of the cheaters who have been caught to date had near infinite river aggression. They would always either raise or fold, only calling when the other player went all-in and they knew they had the best hand. What percentage of his hands are getting to SD?

Au contraire, if he is a superuser he's better than the infinite AF people because he looks less suspicious.

Not saying he is or he isn't (without having read the whole thread yet I'd say the probability is that he isn't because it's 10NL and he's probably just a donk on a heater), but your assertion is wrong.

 

[SeanyJ]

i guess you'd know best. you're the one crushing 10NL. oh wait

That is a low blow

 

[Stick66]

i guess you'd know best. you're the one crushing 10NL. oh wait

That is a low blow

Yeah, Comby. Be nice.

 

[robwhufc]

I have to go to bed, but I'll go through the hands tomorrow. Interesting that he picked the perfect time to limp re-raise w AA:

Yup, he would only have made that play if he KNEW an opponent had KK.

i guess you'd know best. you're the one crushing 10NL. oh wait

 

[blankoblanco]

i'm just needlin, AG can take it

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

see this is one of the problems to arise as fallout from the Absolute Poker issue - when a donk gets lucky, people will instinctively start to think 'zomg superuser' as opposed to 'donk on a heater'. there's absolutely no evidence of anything except that villain is pretty bad at the pokers here - he runs a lot of river bluffs and/or has got lucky on a few rivers, hence the slightly high river AF.

the hands are meaningless. a donk limp-rr'd UTG with AA? well i've never seen that before. plus how is it 'the perfect time' for him to limp-rr? if he can see your cards then he knows pretty much whatever he does short of yelling "HI AG I KNOW YOU HAVE KK BUT I HAVE AA SO FOLD PLZ", stacks are going in, and even if he does yell in the chat they;re probably going in anyway.

plus why did you leave his winrate out of the PT stats?

anyway, if you're right and this is a test run, it seems to have gone pretty well, so I expect to see him at at least $1kNL very soon!

(fwiw i think it's about 60/40 that this thread is a gigantic level)

 

[vanquish]

we're getting leveled imo

 

[The PoolBoy]

Shark scope of this guy

does OK here certainly can put AG to the test though

 

[vanquish]

the guy probably just got the hole card cam for 1,000,000 player points

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

the guy probably just got the hole card cam for 1,000,000 player points

the custom avatar for 1m is a better deal imo

 

[wsorbust]

Hands like this might partly explain Ag's outrageous ring stats.

full tilt poker Game #5266259873: Table Williamsport - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:27:52 ET - 2008/02/15
Seat 1: QUADx6666 ($1.90)
Seat 2: mindscapeNL ($7)
Seat 3: selcuk187 ($7.85)
Seat 4: Utdallas520 ($4.75)
Seat 5: Aqwertz ($3.35)
Seat 6: aphbig1371 ($3.15)
Seat 7: Asilian ($2.10)
Seat 8: R- Rapford ($4.80)
Seat 9: fergg1234 ($6.70)
Asilian posts the small blind of $0.05
R- Rapford has 5 seconds left to act
R- Rapford is sitting out
fergg1234 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
QUADx6666 folds
R- Rapford stands up
selcuk187 folds
Utdallas520 calls $0.10
Aqwertz folds
aphbig1371 folds
Asilian folds
fergg1234 checks
*** FLOP *** [8h 5d 6s]
fergg1234 checks
macumazan has been disconnected
macumazan has reconnected
Utdallas520 bets $0.10
fergg1234 has 15 seconds left to act
fergg1234 calls $0.10
macumazan adds $2
*** TURN *** [8h 5d 6s] [Kc]
fergg1234 checks
Utdallas520 has 15 seconds left to act
Utdallas520 bets $0.45
fergg1234 raises to $0.90
macumazan is sitting out
Utdallas520 raises to $1.35
macumazan has returned
fergg1234 raises to $6.50, and is all in
Utdallas520 calls $3.20, and is all in
fergg1234 shows [7c 4d]
Utdallas520 shows [Ad Qc]
Uncalled bet of $1.95 returned to fergg1234
*** RIVER *** [8h 5d 6s Kc] [2s]
fergg1234 shows a straight, Eight high
Utdallas520 shows Ace King high
fergg1234 wins the pot ($8.60) with a straight, Eight high
Utdallas520 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.55 | Rake $0.95
Board: [8h 5d 6s Kc 2s]
Seat 1: QUADx6666 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: mindscapeNL is sitting out
Seat 3: selcuk187 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Utdallas520 showed [Ad Qc] and lost with Ace King high
Seat 5: Aqwertz didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: aphbig1371 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Asilian (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: R- Rapford is sitting out
Seat 9: fergg1234 (big blind) showed [7c 4d] and won ($8.60) with a straight, Eight high

 

[Inscore77]

This just seems like a donk play to me





Ferg called a pot sized bet on the flop then check raised the turn and bet the river

Also, how do you get the HH's off of Full Tilt?

 

[Monoxide]

donk on heater

 

[Theozzygun]

Dear TheOzzyGun ,

Upon conclusion of a recent investigation of cash game play, we have determined
that opponents of yours were in violation of the Full Tilt poker site Terms and
End User License Agreement.

In this instance, we have seized the account balances of the offending players
and redistributed it to players who were victimized. The calculation was based
on the number of hands played against the offending players as well as the
amount won or lost against them.

With this redistribution, we have determined that you are entitled to a refund
of $220.86, which will be placed in your account in the next 4-6 hours.
For various reasons, we are unable to advise you of the names of the players or
any other information regarding this case; we thank you for your understanding
in this regard. Full Tilt Poker investigates every concern of suspicious
activity at our tables.

The vigilance of our players is one of the strongest weapons we have in our
ongoing battle against unethical play. If you become suspicious of any
behavior, chat, or action at our tables, please don't hesitate to contact us at
support@fulltiltpoker.com.
If there is any other way we can be of assistance, please let us know.

Thank you,

Full Tilt Poker


Dear TheOzzyGun ,

Upon conclusion of a recent investigation of cash game play, we have determined
that opponents of yours were in violation of the Full Tilt Poker Site Terms and
End User License Agreement.

In this instance, we have seized the account balances of the offending players
and redistributed it to players who were victimized. The calculation was based
on the number of hands played against the offending players as well as the
amount won or lost against them.

With this redistribution, we have determined that you are entitled to a refund
of $420.86, which will be placed in your account in the next 4-6 hours.
For various reasons, we are unable to advise you of the names of the players or
any other information regarding this case; we thank you for your understanding
in this regard. Full Tilt Poker investigates every concern of suspicious
activity at our tables.

The vigilance of our players is one of the strongest weapons we have in our
ongoing battle against unethical play. If you become suspicious of any
behavior, chat, or action at our tables, please don't hesitate to contact us at
support@fulltiltpoker.com.
If there is any other way we can be of assistance, please let us know.

Thank you,

Full Tilt Poker

2 emails i recived yesterday an today from full tilt
have also recived a similar email from UB which last week

superusers are everywhere id say seems to be getting worse an worse :/

ive pulled all my stakes outta fulltilt , Ub an pokerstars (kept $2k in there for tornis only on stars)

an ill be going back to grinding live cash games full time

who dares wins an i dont dare trust software anymore

 

[pantin007]

ozzy gun,
those emails are not about superusers, they are about pokerbots
only 1 confirmed case of a "superuser"

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

how is that anything to do with a superuser?

let's see what it's more likely to be

- collusion team
- bot
- underage user
- heck any breach of the t&c - the ft t&c isn't just "thou shalt not be a superuser"

really all this OMG SOMETHING HAPPENED MUST BE A SUPERUSER talk is bloody annoying, and if and when it does actually happen again then all this nonsensical talk will do that case no good at all.

 

[premierplayer]

What I dont like is how you get refunded like 600$ but anyone who has no idea bout someone being a bot or being in breach gets screwed and FT just keeps the $. Kinda whack if you ask me. I am thinking about not putting any more money into online poker.

 

[jewboy07]

he just

this fergg character just lost a big pot when his k-8 lost to pocket aces

now if hes a super user hes not a very smart man

guess this is solved

Full Tilt Poker Game #5293990705: Table Meadows - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:55:27 ET - 2008/02/17
Seat 1: ecnuob ($11.80)
Seat 2: fergg1234 ($8.25)
Seat 3: SS_Reagan ($9.70)
Seat 4: MECHOPUH ($1.75)
Seat 5: MegaSteaming ($10)
Seat 6: GAN241 ($9.80)
Seat 7: Dueffe83 ($1.70)
Seat 8: centralbm ($9.45)
Seat 9: DIAMONDCUTTER4 ($5)
DIAMONDCUTTER4 posts the small blind of $0.05
ecnuob posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
fergg1234 has 15 seconds left to act
fergg1234 calls $0.10
SS_Reagan folds
MECHOPUH folds
GAN241 folds
Dueffe83 folds
centralbm folds
DIAMONDCUTTER4 calls $0.05
ecnuob checks
*** FLOP *** [7h 2h 8d]
DIAMONDCUTTER4 checks
ecnuob checks
fergg1234 bets $0.30
DIAMONDCUTTER4 raises to $0.60
ecnuob folds
ecnuob is sitting out
fergg1234 raises to $2.90
ecnuob stands up
DIAMONDCUTTER4 calls $2.30
brouria sits down
*** TURN *** [7h 2h 8d] [5s]
brouria adds $4
DIAMONDCUTTER4 checks
fergg1234 bets $5.25, and is all in
DIAMONDCUTTER4 calls $2, and is all in
fergg1234 shows [8h Kd]
DIAMONDCUTTER4 shows [Ac Ah]
Uncalled bet of $3.25 returned to fergg1234
*** RIVER *** [7h 2h 8d 5s] [5c]
fergg1234 shows two pair, Eights and Fives
DIAMONDCUTTER4 shows two pair, Aces and Fives
DIAMONDCUTTER4 wins the pot ($9.10) with two pair, Aces and Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.10 | Rake $1
Board: [7h 2h 8d 5s 5c]
Seat 1: ecnuob (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: fergg1234 showed [8h Kd] and lost with two pair, Eights and Fives
Seat 3: SS_Reagan didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: MECHOPUH didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: MegaSteaming is sitting out
Seat 6: GAN241 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Dueffe83 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: centralbm (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: DIAMONDCUTTER4 (small blind) showed [Ac Ah] and won ($9.10) with two pair, Aces and Fives

 

[vanquish]

lets get it straight that there are no superusers at FT and that the refunds were most likely as a result of botting/multiaccounting (which happens at every site)