GGpoker have potential to become the new PokerStars

[oakthyago]

Hello guys I'd like to bring you a discution about the potencial that the GGpoker has to become a great poker room, if they already arent.

I met the room because of the cardschat freeroll they have two per weak to all members. I won a freeroll there and saw that they have a $100 welcome program I just did not know that would be a crazy jornay. they really like this high rake games this all in fold is totally crazyness and the bonus is almost all about it. get luck and did lost my money there but was a tought beggining.

the problem is that this high variancy games makes poker looks more like gambling and not a mind game. If they have sit n go I would not be playing poker stars.

I would like to hear what our comunity think about GGpoker.

 

[CowboyStomp]

I like the client when i see people playing on Twitch. I wish US based players could play too.

 

[glebchekotin]

I prefer PS because of minimalistic table design. GG is a good room, but there are to many colors. Its hard for me to use it

 

[fundiver199]

I have never played on GG Poker, because they dont operate, where I live (sweden). But I think, its overall still not as professional and complete a site as pokerstars. As you say, there are no SnGs, and even if this game format is less popular, than it used to be, thats kind of a big omission.

I also think, the terms and conditions of GG Poker are kind of bullshit. They allow themselfes to kick out people basically at their own discretion, if for instance they deem them to do to much "bum hunting" in cash games. And in the past there have been stories about people getting kicked out or warned for having their tracker open while playing on GG, even though the HUD dont work there, which makes absolutely no sense either. They have also recently hired Dan Bilzerian as ambassador, which to me is not someone, a serious company should associate themselfes with.

So while GG Poker has been able to grow a lot, and it was a huge scoop for them to host the online wsop in 2020 due to the pandemic, to me PokerStars is still the clear industry leader. I dont like everything, PokerStars have done over the years by increasing rake and cutting rewards, but they still have great software and great game selection. And if I was to choose any online poker site, where I had to have a large sum of money sitting, it would certainly be Stars.

 

[Risto234]

Become new pokerstars eh? You are dreaming :bebored:

 

[donpiatnik]

There is something in it, but that there is no sit and go is disaster.
let’s say they can easily change that, I don’t know what’s holding them back.

 

[souza155]

I think the poker star is still very strong and should continue to lead the market for quite some time.

 

[ramdon p358]

I agree with what you say. If you look at the active players, GGPoker is always ahead of PokerStars. And not only that, the great variety of games it offers is greater than that of other poker rooms.

 

[Suns of Beaches]

i mean pokerstars is pretty bad these days so yes you are right, GG could become the new stars.

 

[Suns of Beaches]

I agree with what you say. If you look at the active players, GGPoker is always ahead of PokerStars. And not only that, the great variety of games it offers is greater than that of other poker rooms.

yeah especially the sit and goes. so great.

 

[vittopio]

In my opinion, this room has long been ahead of starzy! But I don't like it - too much extra for a regular game!

 

[Trestivo]

I believe so, the platform still needs more stability but the client is the best he has today, friendly, beautiful, with countless legal possibilities that I don't see on other sites.

 

[klaus210dieter]

I like GG Poker
good tournaments in holdem + Omaha
good cashgames
good rakeback
nice software with tons of gimicks
play now more at GG as on pokerstars

 

[theRaven68]

I like the client but they still have a lot to practice

 

[DS3]

I agree with what you say. If you look at the active players, GGPoker is always ahead of PokerStars. And not only that, the great variety of games it offers is greater than that of other poker rooms.

Yeah, I think people are in denial and simply make comments out of bias. As I write, there are 177,000 active players on GG and 86,000 on PokerStars. Yes, just a snapshot but you will find similar situations around the clock.

There is no denying the graphics in GG are the best in the game. That said the style is a little juvenile with all the 'You Suck!' type emojis, but what I appreciate is the effort they put in. They made amazing promotional moves with the guarantees on their weekend tournaments and then their link up to the WSOP showed real ambition.

I believe there is an argument to be made that GG is already bigger that PokerStars - it certainly feels more vital to the poker eco-system.

 

[oakthyago]

I also think, the terms and conditions of GG Poker are kind of bullshit. They allow themselfes to kick out people basically at their own discretion, if for instance they deem them to do to much "bum hunting" in cash games. And in the past there have been stories about people getting kicked out or warned for having their tracker open while playing on GG, even though the HUD dont work there, which makes absolutely no sense either. They have also recently hired Dan Bilzerian as ambassador, which to me is not someone, a serious company should associate themselfes with.

You just remember me that you cant play with you HUD on the GGpoker what is a big problem to me and some regulars players.

I believe that they try to look more for fun by not letting any HUD works. ( they have they own HUD that is the VPIP if i am not wrong that is displayed in each players avatar. and a termomety that shows if you have been winning or lossing.)

 

[oakthyago]

You just remember me that you cant play with you HUD on the GGpoker what is a big problem to me and some regulars players.

I believe that they try to look more for fun by not letting any HUD works. ( they have they own HUD that is the VPIP if i am not wrong that is displayed in each players avatar. and a termomety that shows if you have been winning or lossing.)

In a positive view I d like to stress that the withdraw for GGpoker is a light-yeahs ahead of pokerstars.

When I used to withdraw on PS I usually lost 15% because I had to sent the money to some dollar trader. now on GGpoker I am winning 10% and they withdraw directly to my acc.


in resume if they put the sit n go there and allow the HUD to work I would never come back to ps.

 

[Poker Orifice]

I have never played on GG Poker, because they dont operate, where I live (Sweden). But I think, its overall still not as professional and complete a site as PokerStars. As you say, there are no SnGs, and even if this game format is less popular, than it used to be, thats kind of a big omission.

I also think, the terms and conditions of GG Poker are kind of bullshit. They allow themselfes to kick out people basically at their own discretion, if for instance they deem them to do to much "bum hunting" in cash games. And in the past there have been stories about people getting kicked out or warned for having their tracker open while playing on GG, even though the HUD dont work there, which makes absolutely no sense either. They have also recently hired Dan Bilzerian as ambassador, which to me is not someone, a serious company should associate themselfes with.

So while GG Poker has been able to grow a lot, and it was a huge scoop for them to host the online WSOP in 2020 due to the pandemic, to me PokerStars is still the clear industry leader. I dont like everything, PokerStars have done over the years by increasing rake and cutting rewards, but they still have great software and great game selection. And if I was to choose any online poker site, where I had to have a large sum of money sitting, it would certainly be Stars.

Your points are all valid but the thing is, the player pool at GGPoker is much different than say Pokerstars or partypoker. There are many more 'gambly' type recreational players. And players from parts of the world that you just don't see (or rarely see) on other sites. Just take the Cardschat freeroll for example, soooo many countries represented that I have NEVER seen playing on Stars.

As far as keeping large sums of money, I think it is much safer than you might be alluding to. They have MTT's on there that are attracting MANY of today's online Highstakes players. The lobby always has $1k buyins, not to mention a $10k buyin tomorrow.

They are a strict site and won't put up with any b.s. Sometimes innocent people get caught up in this BUT they are also getting rid of a lot of the stuff that isn't allowed there. (ie. RTA).
And they don't allow HUDs which I think is good as it tends to attract more recreational type players which are essential to online poker sites.

It doesn't have the same variety of games... 'yet' but it seems to be getting better all the time.

Personally I'm looking to put more money onto GGPoker so I can begin playing an MTT schedule there instead of just cash games. (fwiw, cash games are often pretty wild. During a session last night, I managed to get 250bb's in pre 4-way into a 700bb pot with AA & was up vs. A4s & A7o, lol "weeeeeeeeeeeee" )

 

[Iryna Stryzheuskaya]

I don't really like the rooms on this network. But I think that the more rooms, the better for the players. The rooms compete with each other for players and that's a good thing.

 

[fundiver199]

As far as keeping large sums of money, I think it is much safer than you might be alluding to.

Its not safe, as long as the TOS say, they are allowed to steal your money for whatever random bullshit reason, they like.

They are a strict site and won't put up with any b.s. Sometimes innocent people get caught up in this BUT they are also getting rid of a lot of the stuff that isn't allowed there. (ie. RTA).

I seriously dought their security is any better than that of PokerStars.

 

[fundiver199]

In a positive view I d like to stress that the withdraw for GGpoker is a light-yeahs ahead of pokerstars.

That might depend on, where you live. I have yet to withdraw from PokerStars living in Sweden, but when I lived in Denmark, it always took two banking days, and then the money was in my account. It can hardly get any more seemless than that.

 

[fundiver199]

Yeah, I think people are in denial and simply make comments out of bias. As I write, there are 177,000 active players on GG and 86,000 on PokerStars. Yes, just a snapshot but you will find similar situations around the clock.

Have you considered the fact, that GG Poker might not log out inactive players, like PokerStars do? Cash game traffic is generally around twice as high on Stars, and this measure people, who actually play rather than just being logged on to the site.

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[iwont20]

Have you considered the fact, that GG Poker might not log out inactive players, like PokerStars do? Cash game traffic is generally around twice as high on Stars, and this measure people, who actually play rather than just being logged on to the site.

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GG does log out inactive players. Having said that I find this number of theirs to be pretty fishy, I've never believed it.

 

[DS3]

Have you considered the fact, that GG Poker might not log out inactive players, like PokerStars do? Cash game traffic is generally around twice as high on Stars, and this measure people, who actually play rather than just being logged on to the site.

Poker Sites - Best Real Money Poker Sites 2021 by Live Traffic (pokerscout.com)

Come on...look at the figures they did with the WSOP. One could argue PokerStars could have done big figures...but they were not in the picture were they? Which is the point some of us are trying to make.

From my 'feeling' I did not rate GG at first, especially after Negreanu joined and started pretending he was part of the launch team as if they were not established for years already. But then ultimately I decided to judge for myself and found it refreshing. I think you egg up the 'problems'. Some players got banned in a rather clumsy manner but it appeared with reason. It's not happening every five minutes.

I do find GG a little cartoonish at times but then the overall graphics package is so superior to everyone else's that it does not bother me. Meanwhile on PokerStars they forced the Aurora graphics engine on everyone regardless of whether they degraded their clients graphics or not.

Just my perspective but I think many believed GG would not, could not succeed and they are now stuck in that mode. I think what GG showed is if you concentrate on Poker rather than fold under a sports betting umbrella - you can take on the supposed bigger boys.

 

[fundiver199]

GG does log out inactive players. Having said that I find this number of theirs to be pretty fishy, I've never believed it.

Ok but as you say, the numbers just dont add up, so then something else must be going on. Right now cash game traffic on PokerStars is 6.610, IDN Poker 3.037 and GG Poker 3.712. However players online are Pokerstars 55.540, IDN Poker 11.252 and GG Poker 165.764, so there is a huge discrepancy, especially between IDN Poker, which is another asian facing network, and GG Poker. Which games are all those people on GG Poker playing? Its not cash games obviously, and its not SnGs either, because GG Poker dont even have those.

Another way to get an idea about true volume would be to count the total daily guaranty in scheduled MTTs. I will not spend time doing this, but my hunch tells me, that PokerStars would also come out on top here. I am not buying the claim, that GG Poker is now the largest online poker site based on some "players in lobby" numbers, that nobody can give a logical explanation for.