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GGPoker - the Future of Online Poker
The Negreanu controversy really is what brought GGPoker to my attention. I started playing on their site a few weeks ago in the (one or two per week) Cardschat freerolls.
I like them so much that I'm planning on making a first deposit. This is noteworthy as GGPoker is the first offshore site to which I've ever wanted to make a deposit. And I've played on many, many sites over the years. Their desktop software is the best! And I'm playing on a Mac, which most sites consider a low/afterthought priority. There's only one site which comes close - Pokerstars, and their Mac software still has the same bugs it had five years ago. The GGPoker mobile client, which I use on my Android phone, is beyond INCREDIBLE! It blows EVERYBODY away! It blows the Pokerstars mobile client away. (That said, I'm referring to single table, tournament play. I haven't tried multi-table cash games with them). GGPoker is the ONLY site that I will play on my phone. I don't know for sure why, but from my limited experience with them, the calibre of play seems far more "professional" if that's the correct way to put it. I see more of what I expect (high stakes) professional players to do at the $3 and $5 buy-in tournaments at GGPoker. GGPoker is staying away from the many super-cheap, micro buy-in tournaments that seem to be a mainstay at PokerStars. They seem to have a clear business model in mind and a good handle on prioritizing to get there. This may also be why they seem to attract a higher calibre clientele. GGPoker seems to me to be the future of online poker. You won't find freerolls there, other than the Cardschat freerolls, which would be a good place to start. If you're looking for a new site to try, I definitely recommend them.
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Until they start having cardchat daily tournaments they are miles away from being "future of online poker"
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I've really enjoyed my first & early experiences at GG too...
Looking forward to playing more there and getting familiar with the lobby, LOL..
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God help us if this is the future for online poker. I hate all the crap that shows up when you play. Daft bloody rabbits, stupid chat icons, pathetic faces that pop up every hand. To me it is just horrid. I only play the cardchat freerolls when I have time, that is enough for now.
Give me plain old Pokerstars every day.
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I wish I had the opportunity to check them out - have heard a lot of good things about them.
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GG Poker’s - PokerCraft has Misleading Results
It does not include the rake in your win/loss this producing graphs that make it look like your a winning player when in fact your not. My husband and I noticed this in “All in or Fold” and even though we’re not completely sure about the other games we think its mostly likely the same.
They were raking “All in or Fold” even with no flop. It comes directly out of your bankroll instead of off the table so you are less likely to notice that there is even rake. At the lowest stake buy-in of $2 they were taking 3 cents from EVERY player at the table EVERY round including SB and BB We find that not very impressive at all and it feels deceitful and shady. Pay close attention to your bankroll while your playing and check it out for yourself. So at the moment I will only play CC games.
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They also have a 24/7 real-time, online chat forum (through Discord) with GGPoker staff & experienced GGPoker players. Who else does that? I just got a few questions answered immediately.
I recommended that type of support mechanism to PokerStars a few years back but they just put me off.
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I see players from non-English speaking countries use them a lot. I'm guessing they see them in their native tongue and I see them in English. Kind of a way of bridging the language barrier I think. Another thing that I like is that they have a HUD display at the tables with some basic stats for everybody to see on every player. Levels the playing field a bit.
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They have good software, but in order to compare with PokerStars they need to improve the site a little more (eg improve the replay of the hands played at the table) !!! Overall the site is really good !!!
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The GGPoker "Hand History" display window shows me everything that happened and allows me to read it/skip thru it as quickly or as slowly as I want. It shows me what the pot was at the beginning of each street. It also shows me when a player requests time (the alarm clock icon) which I've never seen a hand replayer do. So, I'm no longer disappointed. I prefer this method of reviewing hands to the hand replayer playback method.
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I agree with lots of what you've said here .... except
The Hand History view is a very outdated type of feature. I feel it is much preferred to have a typed out 'text' type version along WITH a HandHistory 'Replayer'. With the Instant 'Text' hand history I can quickly snap copy/paste it as well. Also works with other replayers. I find that the GGPoker one takes up far too much space on my desktop. I like to play 6 tables per screen (24in.) and with typical HH replayers it's easy to open them & make the window very small... PLUS you can actually put player notes ON the players in the replayer. Something that is totally impossible on the archaic GGpoker HH. In the games I play this is KEY (unfortunately Partypoker is a fail there too) Also, I'm not sure what kind of volume you've put in on the $3 or $5 games (I thought $5 is the lowest buyin on there?) but imo one of the very BEST things about GGpoker site is that it has a MUCH higher percentage of BAD players (& gambly type players) in the micro & low buyin games, both cash & Tournament play. My experience with GG for cash games is that they are BY FAR the softest site of all that I play on regularly. (maybe ACR/WPN is softer.... but I wouldn't know as I rarely play on there... and of course chico network has extremely soft micro cash tables as well). Many more regs. on Partypoker, & also on Pokerstars vs. GG I'm not sure why you're not keen on depositing on 'offshore' sites? (aren't they ALL offshore?... aside from Kahnawake which personally I'd have less faith in than the others). I've been depositing & withdrawing $'s seamlessly for many years on over 40 sites. Much much simpler when Canadians could use Skrill (or Neteller or Moneybookers).. but still very easy on many of the sites.
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GG poker desktop software may be good, but I don't think it's the best because it has a higher power requirement than other poker software. Android app is really good and very stable. I miss freerolls and sit & go, but i'm happy with the end of micro buy-in tournaments!
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I haven't played multiple tables on GGPoker & don't expect to. I have lots of screen space so that's not an issue. I've never wanted to, or even thought about, adding player notes in the hand replayer. I really do like the "archaic" HH. It meets all my needs and does so quite nicely. Perhaps personal taste is a part of it? I'm only interested in a site that I can play a single tournament at a time, AND can do it on my phone sometimes. I've never really liked the Pokerstars mobile client, and theirs was the best I'd found till GGPoker. Playnow is not offshore, and the only actual Canadian, based in Canada site not on a Reserve, run by Canadians, which to date is the only site to which I've deposited. I've never been a hardcore poker player, certainly not a grinder, so till recently I'd never felt the desire to get "invested" in an offshore site. But, I like GGPoker so much I'm willing to "invest" in them for a while. I also like that I can use Interac to deposit/withdraw at GGpoker. The company (Gigadat) that makes that possible is based in Canada, specifically Winnipeg.
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re: Poker & GGPoker - the Future of Online Poker
It looks like a good room. I will open an account to play and get to know this site.
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I feel GGPoker is a rising poker client that should get better with the amount tournaments they offer.
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Unfortunately GG Poker does not accept customers from Sweden, presumably because they are still in the process of aquiring a license. And for this reason I have not been able to give it a try. But I can certainly see the point in raising the bar a bit and getting rid of things like freerolls and 10-50c tournaments, which generate very little revenue but put load on the server and support system. And maybe get rid of 2NL cash as well, since with 20+ years of inflation this limit has also gotten a bit silly.
But maybe GG Poker are taking it a bit to far. As I understand it, they have no SnGs at all, and the cheapest normal MTT without bounties is for 5$. They do have some 2,2$ MTTs with bounties, but if you are brand new to tournament poker, its not a good idea to start playing with bounties. Their game selection would be fine for me as a relatively experienced player, but I would not call GG Poker a beginner friendly site.
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I signed up this week, and I don't like the app at all. Far too busy and naff.
On a personal note, I also seem to have a lot worse luck. Only 3 days in though, so by the end of the week, I may change my mind, but at the moment, I can't see myself keeping with it.
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For beginners I recommend Natural8. The same network, but tons of freerolls
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Of course not, don't even try to play there
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GG Poker
Mind if I ask, what Negreanu controversy? Because he left Pokerstars under the premise that he wants to focus on his marriage/family and then joined GG Poker?
Anyways, I also tried out GG Poker because I stumbled across Negreanu's video on YouTube, the GG interface is quite smooth, both PC and Mobile, it has a lot of key visual indicators about who's behind, the outs that they need etc. I used to play on Pokerstars quite few years back, have no idea how their clients are nowadays, but might try to recover my account and see the differences. Haven't tried the tournaments on GG yet though, so can' t give a review on that. But I guess it shouldn't be bad as the clint itself is quite well built.
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Why?
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From what I'm reading Natural8 focuses on Asia. Their homepage says as much: But what that actually means is still a mystery to me since you don't have to live in Asia to join Natural8 and in fact can belong to both GGPoker & Natural8: Can anybody explain what this means to the average player who doesn't live in Asia?
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https://www.cardschat.com/news/danie...gy-poker-92521 https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-news-events-63/twitch...GGPoker+Twitch I was aware that he had left PokerStars and became a GGPoker ambassador but never paid any attention till he went on his Twitch rant.
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Oh thanks, I didn't know this happened.
Although I can understand he wanted to defend his wife, that is no way to react, specially if you are a poker player, you can't let other people know what triggers you. I guess all in all, we're all humans and we all have good/bad days. Too bad this happened. I do agree with punishment for his behaviour, but maybe permanet ban was too harsh, but I haven't read the Twich rules, so maybe it was justified. Thanks for the clarification!
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Thank you. Let me try it out.
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It's funny though, I think, how things sometimes evolve. I wouldn't have given GGPoker a second thought if not for the controversy (which I heard about at Cardschat), and now I'm one of GGPoker's biggest fans.
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And I do agree with the old Daniel being more charismatic.
Of course I would hit the roof too if someone insulted my wife in real life, but I think this is different, as he's being on the internet, and from my online gaming experience, internet trolls will insult you/your family no matter what you do, so I have learned not to be triggered by them, (if I got a penny everytime someone insulted me on an online game, I wouldn't be here reading about poker and trying to make profit out of it XD), I though Daniel being a more public figure than I am, would've known this better.
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Now loading GG Poker
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re: Poker & GGPoker - the Future of Online Poker
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if gg is the future of online poker, i dont want to think about it.
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It's so old it doesn't hold a charge too long, so I have to charge it first.
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Not so long ago I registered at GGpoker, I liked their site, but there are few freerolls
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Hi! GGPoker is a little different here. And it's called GGPokerOK. I don't like their software, so I hardly play there. But I read that they have more and more players.
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Yeah, they focus on Asian players, but allow players from all over the world to play if their IP address is not blocked automatically. It is consulted with support. Just login with email address instead of mobile number.
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I ran it on my iPad, logged in, went to observe a table in a tournament and it crashed right away. So I gave up trying. I wonder if it's because the app was somehow crippled in order to get Apple to allow it on the app store? This is the only real money gambling app I've ever seen on the app store. It runs perfectly on my Samsung Galaxy S10 phone. Sorry.
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One reason folks might want to give GGPoker a try is - they give you a free $0.25 Spin & Gold ticket every day.
https://en.ggpoker.com/promotions/daily-free-spin/ You have to give them some KYC (Know Your Client) info/documents, but you have to do that anyway if you want to be able to withdraw money from your GGPoker account in the future.
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Restrictions in place
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I opened an account there, and tomorrow will make depozit. I like their software, but i am afraid that field is strong, or i am wrong? Cause games are with higher buy-in than usual...
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Personally I like the $3/$5 tournaments, but we'll see if my opinion changes a year from now.
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In comparison to the changes that the other rooms have made, referring to games on the smartphone, I can point out that PartyPoker is striving to bring a new dynamic, it has changed the way of playing in some modalities, and now it is doing the same in the others and the PokerStars changed some details, and inserted these throwable objects that made the game more fun.
When I tried GGpoker I noticed a different way that I was used to, with more interaction and animations, making the game fun and a good option. Certainly that all rooms have their differentials and their respective space, I think it is healthier to maintain differences between platforms, each one will have its pros and cons, and have allowed companies to invest in changes and that they can always please more your users. The opening of cards on GGPoker pleased me a lot, I was impressed, the way to play more than one table on PartyPoker allows a better view of the actions on the smartphone. Among the rooms that I play, who that i am least adapted to on the smartphone was 888poker, I didn't like the version, I had difficulty getting to play, and since I'm using my phone more than the computer I ended up not playing as much in that room as I would if I had on the computer.
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They have $1, $2, $3, & $4 tournaments that are not bounty types or satellites, but not a lot. Here's an example. The following three screenshots are for the same $2 tournament - one showing "Info", the next "Structure" & the last one "Prize Pool" in the middle window:
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Another nice feature is "Bubble Protection".
You get your buy-in back if you register before the tournament starts and bust out at the "bubble". The number of places this applies to is based on the following table:
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So, good news/bad news.
Good news - made my first deposit via Interac E-transfer (a Canadian only method of transferring money directly from my bank account). The transaction took a few seconds, so instant! Bad news - it took 3 days to get "verified". There was some kind of glitch on their end with online submission of documents. Once it was clear their system was hung up, I e-mailed the document that was hung, and got verified almost immediately. Nobody on their end was actually monitoring what was going on, so I as the client was required to take the initiative to work around the problems on their end. This did not leave me with a warm & fuzzy feeling. They have two first deposit bonus options - one for us normal folk ("$100 in Free Rewards" which is actually only $40 with the potential for more depending on how much you play/spend on AoF poker, which I know nothing about), and one for high rollers or degenerate gamblers who are happy to mortgage their homes to play poker (100% up to $600) and possibly earn up to $600 in bonus rewards. I chose the first: https://en.ggpoker.com/promotions/welcome-bonus/ I made a $100 USD deposit and will get $40 in free tickets over six days, so a 40% bonus which is $40 better than no bonus. Here's what it actually looks like in my account: I should add that I actually like playing Spin & Gold, which is the same as Pokerstars Spin & Go. They're hyper-speed, short stack, 3-player games. You either love them or you hate them. if you hate them, or have never played them before, this bonus may not be nearly as attractive to you as it is to me.
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