Be wary of poker room bonuses, always read the Terms & Conditions

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party poker thinks it's fine for some reason to run "promo's" like this (see link below). Where they say you get $100 bonus if I deposit $100, so I do, and then they go, just kidding you need to play $2000 of Casino games first.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834294680770183172/835906895750889482/unknown.png

Now, I understand, some people say, all of these sites do things like this.

And I say, in my country, if a company tried to do this, the CEO would go to jail for fraud.

So anyways, I'm not going to support a fraudulent company, and I encourage you guys to not play on these angle shooters website.

I pay $400 of rake, for these guys to run a scam on me, it's like wow, you guys are SAD.

Also, if companies do this to you, and you live in canada, you can call your bank and send them the screenshots and they will credit you back the money through their fraud department.

They are also are legally obligated to take these companies to court for defrauding you (if you want to go down that route), they give you the option. I have done it before relating to a scam unibet tried to run on me, I ended up just taking the money though.

Don't trust these scammers with your money.
 
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Trying to get "free" money across the internet is always going be sketchy,,,,lesson learned. :deal: who knew?
 
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I don't understand why the admin changed my title, there were no terms and conditions. As you can see from the screen shot, the terms were, deposit $100, get $100. Those were the terms of the transaction.

Also, ToS's are not relevant, you cannot create deceptive promo's in Canada, or in most countries.

You can't write ToS's to enable you to break laws. If you could do that, I would be able to go buy a bunch of crack cocaine, and then make a ToS that says I cannot be held liable for selling crack cocaine, and all information anyone gives relating to me selling crack cocaine, is invalid.

Like it's so ridiculous lol.
 
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I don't understand why the admin changed my title, there were no terms and conditions.

At the bottom of the advert it said in small letters "terms and conditions apply" or something similar. You just did not bother to look, because you were so excited about getting some free money. Well guess what, there is no such thing as a free lunch. And how surpricing exactly is that..... ;)
 
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At the bottom of the advert it said in small letters "terms and conditions apply" or something similar. You just did not bother to look, because you were so excited about getting some free money. Well guess what, there is no such thing as a free lunch. And how surpricing exactly is that..... ;)
Fundiver, there's a reoccurring theme with you, where you come on and troll, and say in-accurate information.

No where does it say any terms or conditions. There was no where on the screen For your benefit I have linked another screen of another promo, where no terms once again are listed ANYWHERE.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834294680770183172/836254993609916416/unknown.png

The promo I had, like the one I just did a full screenshot of, were auto filled in, and didn't have any terms listed anywhere.

If it was attached to rake, I probably wouldn't of cared that much or made a post, but to attach it to Casino games, is too much. It's a scam.

Also after calming down, it's fine admin changed my title. it's no big deal, however I feel like my original title of "Party Scammers", was a better one lol.

These guys gotta stop doing stuff like this, they do this to try and trick people to spend money on there Casino, they are exploiting people and basically stealing money.

No legitimate companies operate like this, it's sick.
 
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Dont be ridicilous. No-one ever reads terms & conditions of any site when they are about to register to certain site :bebored:
 
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I usually avoid bonuses at all costs because they usually come with insane playthrough requirements and will sometimes restrict your withdrawals until cleared. You're better off looking for deposit offers that give you free tickets or a special tournament entry. Good luck!
 
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I agree that sites that do this is ridiculous. That’s why I’ve never deposited at any of the sites, though they’ve let me withdraw my freeroll winnings. I have noticed before that other poker sites had similar bonus requirements. Doesn’t make sense to me, I’m joining to play poker, not a casino for slots. If you had to play $X of cash games or tournament fees then fine. I think the 888 bonus is like that. They give you some tickets but to unlock the majority you have to play X amount of poker. Though that was for $0 deposit so even better.

I also found out on party poker (I use iOS App), that you can’t even see real money tournaments unless you deposit first. All you can see are play money games. I sent them a ticket about this and they said that when you deposit it switches to real money. That’s fine but it would nice to see the real games first to look at structures and payouts etc before depositing like you can on all the other sites I play. I know people say just deposit $10 but that’s not the point. You should be able to browse before you buy.

Thanks for giving another reason to hate party poker.
 
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Fundiver, there's a reoccurring theme with you, where you come on and troll, and say in-accurate information.

No where does it say any terms or conditions. There was no where on the screen For your benefit I have linked another screen of another promo, where no terms once again are listed ANYWHERE.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834294680770183172/836254993609916416/unknown.png

The promo I had, like the one I just did a full screenshot of, were auto filled in, and didn't have any terms listed anywhere.

If it was attached to rake, I probably wouldn't of cared that much or made a post, but to attach it to Casino games, is too much. It's a scam.

Also after calming down, it's fine admin changed my title. it's no big deal, however I feel like my original title of "Party Scammers", was a better one lol.

These guys gotta stop doing stuff like this, they do this to try and trick people to spend money on there Casino, they are exploiting people and basically stealing money.

No legitimate companies operate like this, it's sick.


Do not consider it rude, but many people tend to look for the culprit in their personal problems on the side. Each promotion of each room has terms and conditions, including bonuses terms. Before registering or receiving any bonus, they recommend that you familiarize yourself with their rules. So who's to blame for those people, who don't, who are keen on chasing free cheese? Moreover, they often do it on purpose and not for the first time. Only they themselves.

If you consider it reasonable to make a large deposit to receive a bonus with a x35 wager, then I have nothing more to tell you.
 
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I can sympathise I made a similar error when signing up to pokerstars.

Join PokerStars using code 200PERCENT - Deposit and get a 200% bonus up to £400. T&Cs Apply.

The bonus sounded similar to many sports betting sites where you have to wager a minimum amount, perhaps with a minimum odds, to get the bonus. As a novice player I had no difficulty burning through my entire initial deposit very quickly and had to redeposit, so assumed I easily qualified for the bonus.

It turned out the bonus was for paying a qualifying amount of RAKE!

As someone who had never played poker before I did not even know the concept of rake at that time.

As written it is plain misleading because the offer functions much differently (and significantly less attractively) than a customer would reasonably assume.
 
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I never use promo codes when depositing. Obviously, these promo codes have a whole list of additional requirements that are very difficult to fulfill in full.
 
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Do not consider it rude, but many people tend to look for the culprit in their personal problems on the side. Each promotion of each room has terms and conditions, including bonuses terms. Before registering or receiving any bonus, they recommend that you familiarize yourself with their rules. So who's to blame for those people, who don't, who are keen on chasing free cheese? Moreover, they often do it on purpose and not for the first time. Only they themselves.

If you consider it reasonable to make a large deposit to receive a bonus with a x35 wager, then I have nothing more to tell you.

Nowhere in there terms does it say you have to wager 35x to get a promo. Also I don't think your logic is correct, because if it was, governments wouldn't throw someone in jail for doing these type of angle shoots, as they are deceptive, confusing, and predatory.

To ask a customer to read through a ToS, and decipher it, would require the customer to have a law degree. It's absurd. No other business, does this other than these Pokersites. I have never heard a company go, "please refer to our ToS", whenever they break laws. No legitimate business does this lol.

There own support don't even know where to direct you on top of it, it's so confusing. They just say, "please refer to our ToS". And I go, "okay where in the ToS?", and they have no idea. They sent me to a random document that isn't even a ToS. There own agents aren't even capable of navigating through there own ToS. It's absurd.

Also these companies have multiple, sometimes dozens, of ToS's, they have hidden ones, they have ones that are attached to random links. A reasonable person, cannot be expected to find all of these ToS's.

Hence why operating like this, is usually illegal, and characters who attempt these type of angle shoots, usually, eventually, end up in jail.

It's pathetic.
 
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Bet Online does the same thing . . . You only fall for it once . . . A great post, giving others a heads up. Thank you.
 
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I think it is always important to read the terms of the promotion you want to participate in, to avoid making large deposits unnecessarily.
 
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Fundiver, there's a reoccurring theme with you, where you come on and troll, and say in-accurate information.

The recurring theme is you, who keep on making these posts about whatever poker site. First it was 888, where you clicked the wrong button when claiming your rake-back, so that you ended up with a casino bonus rather than cash. Now its partypoker, where again you did not read the terms and conditions, but of course its the fault of the site. You also dont want to play on GG Poker, because they kicked some high stakes player out for signing up again after being banned already. I am sure, you can find something wrong with PokerStars as well. As so the list can go on.

And this is just not particularly usefull for people, who come to a poker forum, because they like to play poker. You are flaming some of the best and safest places to play online poker. Sites that are licensed in many markets and have official support threads in CC forum. Most people actually know, there are T & C attached to bonunes, and that there is no such thing as a "free lunch". So you are not really helping anyone by making these posts.
 
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The recurring theme is you, who keep on making these posts about whatever poker site. First it was 888, where you clicked the wrong button when claiming your rake-back, so that you ended up with a casino bonus rather than cash. Now its PartyPoker, where again you did not read the terms and conditions, but of course its the fault of the site. You also dont want to play on GG Poker, because they kicked some high stakes player out for signing up again after being banned already. I am sure, you can find something wrong with PokerStars as well. As so the list can go on.

And this is just not particularly usefull for people, who come to a poker forum, because they like to play poker. You are flaming some of the best and safest places to play online poker. Sites that are licensed in many markets and have official support threads in CC forum. Most people actually know, there are T & C attached to bonunes, and that there is no such thing as a "free lunch". So you are not really helping anyone by making these posts.

888 Poker I clicked the "immediate cash bonus", instead of the "cash bonus", they both cost the same amount of coins to redeem, one however is attached to casino wagering, 1 is not.

How is that not an angle shoot?

And it's like okay man, if you want Casino's screwing over people, I guess that's your opinion, but me personally, I'm not really a huge fan of millionaires and sometimes billionaires trying to figure out new ways to exploit gambling addicts.

It's weird to me that you would defend someone trying to screw you, but okay, you do you I guess...
 
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Party Poker thinks it's fine for some reason to run "promo's" like this (see link below). Where they say you get $100 bonus if I deposit $100, so I do, and then they go, just kidding you need to play $2000 of Casino games first.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834294680770183172/835906895750889482/unknown.png

Now, I understand, some people say, all of these sites do things like this.

And I say, in my country, if a company tried to do this, the CEO would go to jail for fraud.

So anyways, I'm not going to support a fraudulent company, and I encourage you guys to not play on these angle shooters website.



I pay $400 of rake, for these guys to run a scam on me, it's like wow, you guys are SAD.

Also, if companies do this to you, and you live in Canada, you can call your bank and send them the screenshots and they will credit you back the money through their fraud department.

They are also are legally obligated to take these companies to court for defrauding you (if you want to go down that route), they give you the option. I have done it before relating to a scam Unibet tried to run on me, I ended up just taking the money though.

Don't trust these scammers with your money.

All the rooms pull that crap! They totally take a shit on American players as most never complain about it, Unless you deposit with bitcoin good luck getting a cash out request approved!
 
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ah ok so you actually DID press the wrong button when claiming dat rakeback on 888?

yes pokerrooms sometimes are very deceptive with those bonuses, however you should never really expect something for free. contact support first for example, before making the deposit. and yes i dont believe its correct how party handels or advertises this bonus, especially not making the TOS clearly visible.

i once took a bonus from them and it silently started to take also money from my bankroll while playing. so i ended up loosing from my own money at the same time the casino bonus was active. since then i decided to never take one of their offers, party simply does not give away free money.
 
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I'm not really a huge fan of millionaires and sometimes billionaires trying to figure out new ways to exploit gambling addicts

Well I am not either, and I am also not a fan of stupid adverts for detergents, gasoline or whatever. But I think, most people come in this forum, because they like to play poker. I also think, most are clever enough to understand, that online casinos dont just give money away without some kind of caveat like a wagering requirement. But in fairness should such people exist, how you have warned them ;)
 
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Reading all the conditions of the promotion is not a mistake, but it is better to develop such a habit. And not only in poker rooms.
 
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I do not recommend accepting bonuses too much you have to wager
 
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off topic but still about clearing bonuses
the hardest to clear bonus for cardschat freeroll winnings is Interops, but I just keep playing haha,
 
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ACR had a $100 bonus where you they would give you $5 back everytime you payed $21.80 in rake. You had a month to earn the entire $100. 21.80 in rake is $218 in buyins to get the $5, and $218 x 20 = $4363 in buyins to earn the full $100 bonus. A near impossible task unless you are playing a ton of poker at high stakes. Us micro-stakes folks have little hope of playing enough to get this bonus fully paid.

Not saying ACR committed fraud, but I am sure very few folks trying to get this "Bonus" realized exactly how much they would need to play to get it.

Good Luck and God Bless.
 
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Not saying ACR committed fraud, but I am sure very few folks trying to get this "Bonus" realized exactly how much they would need to play to get it.

Which is why, you need to do these kind of computations, BEFORE you start chasing after the bonus ;)
 
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Which is why, you need to do these kind of computations, BEFORE you start chasing after the bonus ;)


Yes sir, which is why I put it out there as an example. If someone thinks that they merely have to "play through" their deposit in order to get the bonus, they really need to look closer.
 
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