888 Poker skewed to favor big stacks

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Hey Guys,

I was just wondering if anyone also noticed that big stacks wins pots 70-80% of the time. I was hoping that it was just me but I have been tracking the tables I play in and I can almost predict the outcome regularly now. :mad:
 
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People who are new to online poker almost always say this about all poker sites and it's just not true,,,,there is a reason that player is a big stack,he's better than you. :star:
 
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Players with big stacks in Tournaments are often on a hot run and hit a lot. Sometimes that luck ends and they give away that big Stack rather quickly. Have you noticed that too???
 
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nairolph87Players with big stacks in Tournaments are often on a hot run and hit a lot. Sometimes that luck ends and they give away that big Stack rather quickly. Have you noticed that too???
That happens really seldom, unless the idiot is just trying to give his/her stack away
 
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People who are new to online poker almost always say this about all poker sites and it's just not true,,,,there is a reason that player is a big stack,he's better than you. :star:

I wish I was new at poker. You have'nt played at 888 before
 
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nairolph87Players with big stacks in Tournaments are often on a hot run and hit a lot. Sometimes that luck ends and they give away that big Stack rather quickly. Have you noticed that too???
That happens really seldom, unless the idiot is just trying to give his/her stack away

I did that a lot some days ago. I think it was like 3 or 4 hands where I won every time as an underdog. Like K6s hitting a flush.
 
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I did that a lot some days ago. I think it was like 3 or 4 hands where I won every time as an underdog. Like K6s hitting a flush.

That's different because you were on a hot streak. I'm talking about in general, big stacks always get more than 70% of the pot especially if it's all in. For me, the percentage of this happening is just too big. Like big stacks go all in with A8 and a smaller stack goes in with AJ. Somehow the smaller kicker more often than not just hits.
 
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I've been a chip leader once the last 4-5-9-20-50 players left in tournaments on 888 Poker many times, did I win in all of those tournaments? Nope, far from it.

It's a misconception, and I've seen post like this about every single room there is dozens of times.

Maybe you're losing all-ins because you're having a downswing or maybe you're playing not that good. But focusing on the big stacks' wins definitely won't going to help it (although of course it provides an easy way out for your frustration, as it gives you a permission to not change everything, like your losing is not dependent on you - it's big stack's and 888poker's fault ;))
 
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Claims like this are in my opinion just nonsense. Sure sometimes you see a bad player on a heater build a huge stack. Which they then often give away again without finishing in the top 3, where the bulk of the payout is concentrated. But other times you are on the bubble or at the final table with a middling stack, and the short stacks just keep on dubbling up to survive and drag the process out.

Also what would even be the motive for poker sites to rig their RNG to favour a big stack? The typical explanation is to make people bust faster, so they play more tournaments. But come on guys give me a break. Plenty of people play turbos or hyper turbos anyway, and why do you think, 888 keep on promoting their BLAST games?

888 also offer several tournaments, which are still very favourable rake wise. They have 2,2 and 5,5$ R+As, where only the initial buyin is raked but not the rebuys or addons. They have 4$ knock-out tournaments with only 30c rake. They have a daily 7,5$ bounty builder with only 50c rake. They have "rake or break", where the rake is refunded, if the tournament does not reach its target.

Can you imagine the board meeting, where someone suggest "lets rake the rebuys and add-ons in all our tournaments and make the 7,5$ bounty a 7,7$ to bring it in line with our other tournaments". And then someone else reply "nah lets rig the RNG instead and get the suckers that way". Its just comical to even imagine something like this.
 
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Hey Guys,

I was just wondering if anyone also noticed that big stacks wins pots 70-80% of the time. I was hoping that it was just me but I have been tracking the tables I play in and I can almost predict the outcome regularly now. :mad:
This is probably going to end up in the rigged megathread. While you are still here... think a bit more carefully about what you are seeing. There are players who are just getting lucky. There are players who play correctly and get rewarded. There are combinations of both. It is very rare that a big stack plays utter trash every single hand and just wins 70-80% of them.

If you're convinced that what you are seeing is real, look at anything that is happening simultaneously when the big stacks are winning. For example, are the big stacks winning in a certain position? Or are they winning against a certain losing player's position? I can tell you that big stacks lose in very specific circumstances.
 
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That's different because you were on a hot streak. I'm talking about in general, big stacks always get more than 70% of the pot especially if it's all in. For me, the percentage of this happening is just too big. Like big stacks go all in with A8 and a smaller stack goes in with AJ. Somehow the smaller kicker more often than not just hits.


Then BE the bigstack!

pff ez game
 
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I can tell you that big stacks lose in very specific circumstances.


Dude... this is gold!

I can tell you some specific circumstances where the big stacks lose... when they get it in behind and other players hand holds. ALso.. when they get it in ahead... but other player sucks out on them (who's shove or call off may have been correct given the circumstances).
 
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I wonder why I did not see such a topic on pokerstars))) In fact, this is not true. This is your illusion !!!
 
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Эта претензия не имеет доказательств. Вы можете говорить о любом покер-руме. Это можно увидеть довольно часто. Но большой стек выигрывает не всегда.


Ага. Вот почему я спрашиваю, замечает ли это кто-нибудь еще.;)
 
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I love players with big stacks. It can be all mine as soon as their luck runs out.
 
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I love players with big stacks. It can be all mine as soon as their luck runs out.

Its just important to understand, that we typically have less fold equity against them, because we are not threatening their stack, especially if we are short. So they are not the most ideal candidates for a light jam with hands like a small pair, rag aces or suited connectors.
 
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Hey Guys,

I was just wondering if anyone also noticed that big stacks wins pots 70-80% of the time. I was hoping that it was just me but I have been tracking the tables I play in and I can almost predict the outcome regularly now. :mad:
Very keen observation! Although it is an illusion, the big stack will seem to win a lot of the time especially when other players dips below 20x-10x the BB. When a very small stack player is forced to go all in because their stack in barely hanging on its the perfect time for the big stack to flip. Plus, the big stack is putting maximum pressure on these stacks so any ace-rag is gonna fly into the pot.
 
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Sometimes it seems so, and when you have a big stack you seem to win more. But I have lost quite a few too!
 
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All right. My opinion. The program is designed in such a way to remove players with a small stack.

very sharp observation! Although this is an illusion, a large stack will win, especially when other players fall below 20x-10x BB. When a player with a very short stack is forced to go all-in, because it's barely hanging stack, this is the perfect time for a big stack. In addition, a large stack has a maximum pressure on the stack, so any ace-rag fall into the pot.
 
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When I was new to poker, a lot of things seemed suspicious to me too. Now I understand the absurdity of suspicion. Why does the site deal with breaking the law?
 
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I used to play blast spin and go and when only one opponent left he had about 48 chips or so while I had the rest that is 5952. Guess what I lost 7 all ins in a row and lost the game. It just happens. What I think is that people are skewed to see what they believe. Once you believe something (in your case it is skeweness of 888poker to favor big stakes) your mind keep on searching and getting support for your believes.
 
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Hey Guys,

I can almost predict the outcome regularly now. :mad:


Woooooooow!!!!! OMG!!! teach me master!! I want to put in chips too when I know I'm going to lose, pleeeeeeasse I really really want to learn. just kidding lol. But ya... if you find this knowledge, it's best to keep to yourself and silently crush the competition.:icon_flow
 
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Woooooooow!!!!! OMG!!! teach me master!! I want to put in chips too when I know I'm going to lose, pleeeeeeasse I really really want to learn. just kidding lol. But ya... if you find this knowledge, it's best to keep to yourself and silently crush the competition.:icon_flow
Fully agree, thats why I like the rigged sites where patterns exist, so we can exploit and become wealthy.
Only problem: I didn't predict any outcome yet (except that AA more often wins than loses)
 
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