Obama Said to Give Thumbs Up to Barton's Online Poker Bill

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I doubt this bill will pass anytime soon. There is so much other stuff going on in the country. Also I am sure it would have to be revised a number of times to make everyone happy.
 
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They thinking of it, but in My Country(india) they still dont know much about online, seems we are leaving in 19th century
 
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Super, let's get behind all efforts to legalize the game we love. I think the key angle is the "equally favorable revenue component for government." The fact that poker is regarded as a 'game of chance' comparable to anything like video poker, dice games, etc. is a misconception that also must be dealt with.

I would like to see this legislation come true. having dabbled in some on-line casino games, sports betting, and poker; I agree poker is less a game of chance, but I'm not convinced the skill element of on-line is the same as live poker. One small example is years worth playing fixed limit stud hi/lo on several sites, A23 has filled low less than 25% for me, and the hand has been a net loser. But I assume it's that way for most people, so it's just a software quirk.

Anyway, I'd love to see a regulated site open to US players. A fair game and some tax revenue shouldn't hurt anyone.
 
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I would like to see this legislation come true. having dabbled in some on-line casino games, sports betting, and poker; I agree poker is less a game of chance, but I'm not convinced the skill element of on-line is the same as live poker. One small example is years worth playing fixed limit stud hi/lo on several sites, A23 has filled low less than 25% for me, and the hand has been a net loser. But I assume it's that way for most people, so it's just a software quirk.

Anyway, I'd love to see a regulated site open to US players. A fair game and some tax revenue shouldn't hurt anyone.


Although this almost certainly will be a reality I am not sure the statement is accurate.

The government will probably tax the poker sites(which will increase an already expanding rake) and tax us, but the tax on winnings will probably be more severe than just basic income tax. They will probably call it a gaming fee or some shit and charge like 35% or something making it nearly impossible to be profitable. Of course I am a pessimist so I may be way off here.
 
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No chance this will get solved at the national level, the only hope is working at the local and state levels. Nevada has the best law currently, states could join up with Nevada to get larger player pools, which would be a win-win for each state that does that
 
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Based on what is happening in DC currently, I think it is best to make your bill appear as bipartisan as possible, so having Obama's backing is probably not very helpful as it would turn Republicans against the bill (as the party is basically against everything Obama does) and therefore if his support does exist, it should be kept on the DL.

They work together well when the interests of big money is involved. Just not when regular people need them to get something done. online poker is big money, and big tax money for them, so I think it will happen, if at the usual glacial pace of our corrupt government. Online casino owners and would-be owners just need to pay the right bribes. Oh, sorry, I mean campaign contributions.
 
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No chance this will get solved at the national level, the only hope is working at the local and state levels. Nevada has the best law currently, states could join up with Nevada to get larger player pools, which would be a win-win for each state that does that

The PPA has tried on a national level for years, well that was their priority and they have had little success. This year they are trying to go on a state level and hopefully that moves things more rapidly for us, the real online poker that we desire back.
 
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Good news but I'm wondering what percentage "Taxation" they are scheming. Its extreme on most Winnings in my experience, generally around 50%.
That would destroy the game. We're already taxed enough with deposit fees, withdraw fees (AVG 35%) and rake.
 
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Like everything else & I mean EVERYTHING the Politicians get involved in, they turn to shit. Inherent taxes means automatically collected. I see these double speaking jackasses ruining the peoples ability to make a living with OLP just like they do with everything else they see normal people making $ from. They create legislation to control and steal for their plundering.
 
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I have totally backed the OLP bill up until this thread.

But now that I know Broker Obama is behind it, I have to rethink it. Pretty much anything our illustrious leader backs either begins as, or quickly turns to a CF.

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That's the title of the headliner in today's PokerPlayer newspaper. At the end of the Wendeen Eolis's exclusive interview with Joe Barton, she reports this:

"Early in our conversation, Barton told me that President Obama reached out to him shortly after he was elected –the first time. According to Barton, they discussed online poker, and the president said he would sign a Barton-authored bill to legalize poker on the internet.

The twinkle in Barton’s eye reappeared when I asked if the president’s support back then is meaningful now. Barton gave a thumbs up with one footnote; a companion bill to provide for inherent tax provisions will be part of the package."

Here's the link to the entire article:
http://www.pokerplayernewspaper.com/content/obama-said-give-thumbs-barton%E2%80%99s-online-poker-bill-12771
 
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needs 2 start doing something positive besides give our money away 2 rich people
 
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Another revolution, perhaps? Would the poker community go to that length? I would, bad as that sounds because i am so fed up with mofo's telling a grown, tax paying man what i am allowed to do with my own money. And the 99% of the population that makes the rich richer, should get beaten severely about the head and shoulders for not having the cahoneys to stand up and say #### you money hogging bastards. then gather the super rich, put them in a nice deep money lined pit, and dump tons of cash and change on top of them, then put about 99.99% of the politicians in the pit, dump tons of cow crap on them, and cap it with dirt. How many of you know the extent of the top 1% of the population that holds 99% of the wealth of the United States??? It's mind boggling. Consider this, they can spend a million bucks a day for 100 years and still be rich. Is there ANY sensible reason for a human being to be so filthy greedy? I mean come on, what else can they buy? Is that why the lower 99% struggle to put food on the table, clothes on their backs, and medical care? Jeeeez, I have an eighth grade education but i can see if the rich are hoarding the the wealth, how in the hell can there be any circulation if they are choking it off? And you know what happens when you cut the circulation off, things die. And the sumbttcchhes gonna tell me i can't play a little poker after i provide their dirty azzes with caviar and champagne? [ the politicians are in bed with'em]. I say the lower 99% should quit going to work, quit going to the polls, have a b-b-q and get drunk'em as hell. Sigh, that's a fairy tale wish, or a dude on acid's trip.
 
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Oh yea, the whole point of my rant-vent post is to point out that since the 1% own the politicians, and the politicians own our rights, you think the 1% is gonna let a nickel get past their sticky fingers? I say everyone move to Nevada. Oh shhtt, one of the 1% owns that too. Hmmm, canada is looking mighty good right now.
 
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Lets make it happen power to the president i just hope it can make it to him.
 
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How is it supposed to get legalized if the politicians don't get involved and if Obama is the one to bring Fulltilt and pokerstars back then power to him.
 
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a federal solution would be awesome
 
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How is it supposed to get legalized if the politicians don't get involved and if Obama is the one to bring Fulltilt and Pokerstars back then power to him.

Remember, it was the Obama Administration that brought them down in the first place
 
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I don't know if anyone mentioned this but if it is brought back it will be taxed at 30%.
 
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I don't know if anyone mentioned this but if it is brought back it will be taxed at 30%.

Why?

When you buy a lotto ticket I don't remember it being taxed. Winning tickets are taxed based off adjusted gross income.
 
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good news for American players. I think it has a positive effect on their profits)))
 
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