The numbers are in for the 2019 WSOP

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The recent upward trend in popularity suggests the game may be headed towards another poker boom. And the 2019 wsop is further proof of that claim. There were 12 events of the summer series registered over 5,000 entries. In total, the 2019 WSOP crushed last year’s record of 123,865 total entries with 187,298.

Would you say poker is alive and well based on these numbers?

2019 WSOP from a Numbers Standpoint: Another Record-Breaking Summer
 
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If the US can wake up and legalize online legit poker, that would be awesome.
 
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If the US can wake up and legalize online legit poker, that would be awesome.


oh man, just imagine.
prize pool is gonna be insane in some tournaments with less buying prices, because the
entrances, today always is far to the limit
big tournaments too
 
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Internet has brought poker to all corners of the globe. With the introduction of online poker, more and more people are addicted to playing
 
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Need to create more events, to make room for more participants, is very busy
 
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I have no hard data to back this up, just my own observations, but, no, I don't think there is a second poker boom.

In the 2000s, I could host a tournament in my home, send out invitations to 250 people and have 60 of them show up for a $100 buy in tourney. Those days are gone. Most of those rec players lost their poker roll and quit.

Same time period, when I would go out to Vegas, almost every casino had a busy poker room. I loved going to the convention oriented hotels because lots and lots of those conventioneers would take breaks from showing or selling their wares and run into the poker rooms. At a 1/2 table at Mandalay Bay, I could make an easy $1K a day with very little risk. Even if I suffered a serious bad beat, because the conventioneer never had a big stack, it didn't hurt much. .

Now, most poker rooms are rarely full. Lots of the players are old men who buy in for $60 to $100 at a 1/2 table and are looking for a pleasant morning of coffee with their friends. Those guys are dying. When I was in my home poker room last Friday, I told the story of one of the oldsters not seeing his Royal Flush during a $2000 high hand period. He called it a straight and I corrected him. The dealer told me that man had died a couple of weeks ago.

I had not been to Vegas since about 2010 because east coast poker had become so easily available. I went out last year and was amazed to see how few casinos still had meaningful poker rooms. Preying on conventioneers wasn't an option. The players in the few remaining poker rooms were significantly better than the casual players I had lived off preciously.

After 10 days, I had paid all my flight, hotel, and food expenses and made a measly $1000 profit after 9 days. I don't see a boom.
 
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I saw many young people at the event, all poker events will continue to succeed in the future!
 
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If the US can wake up and legalize online legit poker, that would be awesome.

Agreed, nationwide. As it stands now, I can't even go in and beat up on the NJ players. Do like marijuana, legitimize it and tax it. All big gubmint cares about is their cut.
 
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I have no hard data to back this up, just my own observations, but, no, I don't think there is a second poker boom.

In the 2000s, I could host a tournament in my home, send out invitations to 250 people and have 60 of them show up for a $100 buy in tourney. Those days are gone. Most of those rec players lost their poker roll and quit.

Same time period, when I would go out to Vegas, almost every casino had a busy poker room. I loved going to the convention oriented hotels because lots and lots of those conventioneers would take breaks from showing or selling their wares and run into the poker rooms. At a 1/2 table at Mandalay Bay, I could make an easy $1K a day with very little risk. Even if I suffered a serious bad beat, because the conventioneer never had a big stack, it didn't hurt much. .

Now, most poker rooms are rarely full. Lots of the players are old men who buy in for $60 to $100 at a 1/2 table and are looking for a pleasant morning of coffee with their friends. Those guys are dying. When I was in my home poker room last Friday, I told the story of one of the oldsters not seeing his Royal Flush during a $2000 high hand period. He called it a straight and I corrected him. The dealer told me that man had died a couple of weeks ago.

I had not been to Vegas since about 2010 because east coast poker had become so easily available. I went out last year and was amazed to see how few casinos still had meaningful poker rooms. Preying on conventioneers wasn't an option. The players in the few remaining poker rooms were significantly better than the casual players I had lived off preciously.

After 10 days, I had paid all my flight, hotel, and food expenses and made a measly $1000 profit after 9 days. I don't see a boom.


Some good insight there. Thanks for that!

The numbers for the WSOP indicate poker is alive but as far as a boom, I personally don't feel it is there just yet. It would be interesting to see the dollar numbers and the patron numbers year over year during the period of the WSOP tournaments.
 
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This is great news . I hope people's interest for WSOP continues for the next years , and also more and more new players come to the poker tournaments and games globally , online and live . It would be great if we have a new poker boom era .
 
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The recent upward trend in popularity suggests the game may be headed towards another poker boom. And the 2019 WSOP is further proof of that claim. There were 12 events of the summer series registered over 5,000 entries. In total, the 2019 WSOP crushed last year’s record of 123,865 total entries with 187,298.

Would you say poker is alive and well based on these numbers?

2019 WSOP from a Numbers Standpoint: Another Record-Breaking Summer

I think now, more than ever, we have to separate poker into "live" and "online". It seems live poker is doing well. We can't take the numbers from the WSOP alone. They have totally restructured their tournaments. WSOP used to be the "elite" poker players, battling against each other for 10,000 buy-in tournaments. Now the WSOP made smart marketing moves to open up the venue to attract everyone from pro to recreational player. This is probably great for WSOP profits and of course, it can draw more people to poker.

So even if we avoid WSOP crazy numbers, most states seem to have a growing casino industry. I know my state PA. keeps expanding the number of places you can go to play poker. So all in all, I do see a "live" poker Boom!

Online poker is struggling, in my opinion, the U.S. is still dancing around the idea of legal online gambling. It is all uncertain, which makes companies afraid to commit resources. But, the biggest issue that I see, we have computer programs which can be profitable at 6-max cash tables. (this is frightening). We knew about Heads-up Bots but now, machines are moving fast. Do you really want to risk your "income" playing against a couple of computer programs?? The cost is not very high, so many people are going to make a decision to quit or join the bot brigade. Sites have to decide, are they going to stop allowing any software, how aggressive will they try to be versus "dirty" accounts??

Just a few of my thoughts, I am sure other people have different views or opinions.
 
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I think now, more than ever, we have to separate poker into "live" and "online". It seems live poker is doing well. We can't take the numbers from the WSOP alone. They have totally restructured their tournaments. WSOP used to be the "elite" poker players, battling against each other for 10,000 buy-in tournaments. Now the WSOP made smart marketing moves to open up the venue to attract everyone from pro to recreational player. This is probably great for WSOP profits and of course, it can draw more people to poker.

So even if we avoid WSOP crazy numbers, most states seem to have a growing casino industry. I know my state PA. keeps expanding the number of places you can go to play poker. So all in all, I do see a "live" poker Boom!

Online poker is struggling, in my opinion, the U.S. is still dancing around the idea of legal online gambling. It is all uncertain, which makes companies afraid to commit resources. But, the biggest issue that I see, we have computer programs which can be profitable at 6-max cash tables. (this is frightening). We knew about Heads-up Bots but now, machines are moving fast. Do you really want to risk your "income" playing against a couple of computer programs?? The cost is not very high, so many people are going to make a decision to quit or join the bot brigade. Sites have to decide, are they going to stop allowing any software, how aggressive will they try to be versus "dirty" accounts??

Just a few of my thoughts, I am sure other people have different views or opinions.


A lot of really good points there, Jsnake.
 
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Last time the field was this big was in 2006. Jamie Gold won that even with the largest player field in history. Of course, he got really lucky the whole time, but he still played well.

The official "golden age" has definitely passed for poker. But a revitalizing burst of energy to the game? Another boom can and will happen.
 
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