More cheater scandal in poker news

[Shells]

I've just watched this crazy hand - J4o, min raising turn and calls for 100k+ with only jack high, no draws,

We have a thread already in progress on this very topic.

Read it all here >>> https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-news-events-63/hustler-casino-live-511334/

 

[barstool]

What kind of cheating? Like playing together the same tables to gain force? Or abusing the software somehow?

 

[Shells]

What kind of cheating? Like playing together the same tables to gain force? Or abusing the software somehow?

There is an article linked in the very first post of this thread where you should find much more information.

 

[EnzoRS94]

I don't know everything about this cheating allegations these both players are facing this last two years but it doesn't change the fact that they're among the best players in the world if not the best actually.

 

[spectralwave]

The bill came for good for the cheaters. Pivots of the biggest controversy in recent times (with Bryn Kenney also mentioned), online cheating, players Ali Imsirovic and Jake Schindler are suffering from the post-scandal measures. After the EPT banned their presence at its events, it was PokerGo's turn to follow suit.

The first indication of the banning of these two players was the “disappearance” of their names in the PokerGo Tour rankings. A few days ago, the list was updated and Britain's Stephen Chidwick had taken the lead. However, just behind him was Jake Schindler, in second, and Ali Imsirovic, the current titleholder, was fourth.

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However, the names of the two players no longer appear in the dispute. With Chidwick still leading, who appears in second place is Phil Ivey, followed by Michael Duek, in third, and Jason Koon, in fourth. Both Imsirovic and Schindler were removed from the list without further explanation.

The second sign was the start of the Poker Masters. Neither of the two mentioned attended the first event of the series, in a tournament where they would definitely be. Poker Masters also counts points for the PokerGo Tour and is organized by PokerGo, so once again it is clear that the absence is a company determination.

In addition, Daniel Negreanu even commented on his Twitter about the players: "Poker Masters today and I bet we won't see Jake Schindler or Ali Imsirovic playing any of the events...", wrote the Canadian. The “suspect” has been confirmed and now it seems that the “cheaters” are paying the price for their actions.

 

[akgross]

The company hides the details of the fraud and the way in which they tried to bypass network protection. If the company is confident in its abilities, then it does not need to hide the facts and at the same time refer to non-public information. We read about various scandalous cases and get more accurate information, which means that in this case there are problems with the employees of this network.

 

[MikeCarasone]

It’s even more appalling that these guys are already among the games very best , if not the best players that there is. Yet they still resort to cheating and defraudping the poker community. Such a shame.

 

[daibert murillo]

They must explain their accusations, the most beautiful thing about playing poker is being responsible.

 

[MattRyder]

It’s even more appalling that these guys are already among the games very best , if not the best players that there is. Yet they still resort to cheating and defraudping the poker community. Such a shame.

Makes you wonder about the rest of them.

 

[5TR8 FLUSH]

I watched this yesterday, and the last topic is about Robbie, Garret the the Husler Casino. The Husler Casino hired a investigation team that didn't find any evidence to prove Robbie guilty. It's not to say she didn't cheat, but there's currently not enough evidence.

Wonder if Garret is going to return the money.

 

[G0930]

The company hides the details of the fraud and the way in which they tried to bypass network protection. If the company is confident in its abilities, then it does not need to hide the facts and at the same time refer to non-public information. We read about various scandalous cases and get more accurate information, which means that in this case there are problems with the employees of this network.

A company has no obligation to fill in the public about an ongoing investigation.
You read too much into it imo

 

[allfarewells]

I don’t think they would have been banned without evidence of any sort…. I believe pokergo probably does have evidence but maybe playing cards close to their chest? I’m sure it will all come out in the wash eventually but I cannot for the life of me imagine they would just ban people without anything to back up their claims … it’s bad for business and people would probably think twice about playing under them… just my opinion though…..

Much love
Danny
🙏❤️

 

[Gotmog1]

And what can you cheat in online poker?

 

[wavetune]

if cheating has reached chess, such a cultural sport, everyone is smart and cultured there, then it is not surprising that it is present in poker, this is normal

 

[wavetune]

And what can you cheat in online poker?

they play together at the same table

 

[kitchy65]

I've just watched this crazy hand - J4o, min raising turn and calls for 100k+ with only jack high, no draws,

It's not that crazy, happens every minute of every hour on at micro stakes

 

[okeedokalee]

Those guys are such good live players, why would they need to cheat online.
Some bookies ban punters because they win too often. Could this be a similar circumstance?

 

[DS3]

Those guys are such good live players, why would they need to cheat online.
Some bookies ban punters because they win too often. Could this be a similar circumstance?

No.

Schindler was kicked off pokerstars years ago for what was believed to be RTA (real time assistance).

Then Imsirovic and Schindler were kicked off GG poker for the same offense (as were some 40 odd others). Rumors had circulated for years amongst pros they were incorrigible cheaters.

That said, I still feel they are scapegoats of sorts (meaning many believe such cheating was likely commonplace) and the Poker Integrity Council does not exactly seem to be doing much of anything, which was my guess early days, unless that is that cheating has all but evaporated in 2022.

 

[IronMike9000]

I hope they don't catch me cheating

 

[Shells]

I hope they don't catch me cheating

There is no reason to catch you if you don't cheat. Right?!

 

[YuriSLopes]

As far as I know they cheated.

I believe now they're reaping what they sowed.

Right?

The possibility of being cheated at the felt makes me feel very uneasy and for a good while could result in serious consequences.

So, they actually might be lucky for being banned since they could be 3 feet under back in the days haha...

 

[CDNMAN 42]

Hopefully detailed explanations will follow. I hope for the same in the chess world.

I fear showing my naivety, however in what manner or how did they cheat? on line? using software? or inside info?

 

[Shells]

I fear showing my naivety, however in what manner or how did they cheat? on line? using software? or inside info?

The very first post of this thread links an article with more details about the cheating allegations.

 

[MazzErati]

I've just watched this crazy hand - J4o, min raising turn and calls for 100k+ with only jack high, no draws,

typical gaming on microlimits ^_^ omg thats insane

 

[JappsPK]

I think they will not explain for us what really happened. And i think thats more ethical.