ratbat615
Legend
Platinum Level
I don’t agree with it let the lady’s have their tournament 🏟. If a woman 👩 was to play in a tournament that was called MENS POKER TOURNAMENT 🏟. If it said this is a cats 🐈 tournament so why are dogs 🐶 playing don’t make any sense. Anyway thank you 🙏 for your question 🙋♀️.
muzenza2012
Rock Star
Bronze Level
in my opinion, I think it's totally wrong, if the tournament is female, it's only for women to participate, have fun, study, compete and bet. none is less than the other, but if there are rules, they must be followed, otherwise it becomes a party
whinwa
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Seems like the people hosting the event should have been ontop of this. Where are the Men only tournaments though? In my view both men and women should just play the same pool since there is no competitive edge based on gender here. We are all equal.
IronMike9000
Visionary
Platinum Level
Under Florida's anti-discrimination laws, casinos are not allowed to ban men from competing in women's events,Why did the tournament organizers permit him to participate is the true mystery. Has he paid off the organizers?
Or is it a publicity stunt to get media attention for the organizers.
IronMike9000
Visionary
Platinum Level
Professional poker player Charlie Carrel makes an interesting point
“It pokes fun at the idea that anybody can identify as a woman and be allowed to enter women’s spaces,” Carrel wrote. “It does suck that it comes at the expense of the women’s only space. I wouldn’t do it.”
He added, “It does speak loudly to the insanity that’s playing out on a larger scale.”
“It pokes fun at the idea that anybody can identify as a woman and be allowed to enter women’s spaces,” Carrel wrote. “It does suck that it comes at the expense of the women’s only space. I wouldn’t do it.”
He added, “It does speak loudly to the insanity that’s playing out on a larger scale.”
Dobbler1
Rock Star
Bronze Level
I don't know about Florida specifically, but I find it ironic that in the US, so many states have laws that prevent people using specific bathrooms, but anyone can enter a women's tournament. Seems a little like a double standard.
kidkvno1
Sarah's Pet
Bronze Level
It's not right for men to dress up as women and play in a women's event's.. We on the right and center have been fighting for women to have the same rights as us guys, and have been pushing for women to have their own events.
If it was taken to court, it would be into the trash.
Um no, If it's listed as a women's event, you must be a women to play in it.
If it was taken to court, it would be into the trash.
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
whinwa
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Why not?
Dobbler1
Rock Star
Bronze Level
What bothers me is that regardless of what peoples' political beliefs are, there are people who live their lives as trans and have beliefs about what their identity is regarding gender. That's just a fact. They're not faking, even if you personally disagree with how they categorize themselves. If someone like that wants to join a women's tournament, then I think there can be an honest discussion about the subject, and I'm sympathetic to both sides of the discussion.
Someone pretending to be trans to make some smart-alecky point is a different situation, and I don't have any sympathy for their point. If they suffer social consequences for their behavior, also no sympathy from me. I'm okay with people having different beliefs, but don't be a jerk about it.
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
Because it would violate Florida law.
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DS3
Legend
Loyaler
Well, what bothers me about Charlie Carrel's point is not as the poster claimed it is 'interesting' but, in my opinion, it is sly and disingenuous.
I have followed Carrel since early days and I find many of the things he says dubious. At present, most will know that he is being cited at the center of Doug Polk's bullying and using the fact that (according to him) he was abused as a child. So I find what he says here odd and wrong note.
“It pokes fun at the idea that anybody can identify as a woman and be allowed to enter women’s spaces,”
What? No, it doesn't at all, as no man entering such events is 'identifying' as a women'. If anything it's a chauvinistic pose taken as some men do not like women enjoying their own space.
“It does speak loudly to the insanity that’s playing out on a larger scale.”
Really, what insanity is that? Would that be women having their own space or that transgender issues are fraught and contested by many?
So this would be Charlie Carrell actually being unclear as he has been before and when asked to explain, Carrel by habit goes to that 'misunderstood place'.
There was no reason whatsoever for the transgender issue to be linked to the fact certain men feel the need to make a political point and enter a women's only poker format.
kidkvno1
Sarah's Pet
Bronze Level
The women of said event could file a suit, since it was a ladies only event, and get their money back for it. It could hurt the poker room a lot more, and they would put an end to ladies events, and so could other poker rooms. More guys will end up playing in ladies events!
Since it was listed as a ladies only event, there is no anti-discrimination on this since it was listed as a ladies event only. I watch a few in how the law is set up and done up, they would say the guy has no leg to stand on, with this one. Try finding one suit, vs a guys vs gals playing a game, any game to a guy filing a suit using anti-discrimination laws, and the guy winning it.
So CC would be violating the laws of every state, and other country's??? I as a gentlemen, find no need to take part in a ladies games, nor in the chat set up on here for ladies on here.. Tho I could give you 2 members, that would of done it at a drop of a hat.
Every state has anti-discrimination laws on the books, so does this end ladies poker events, for every poker room and online sites??
So on that, should women's only sports come to an end???
I had all day to think about what you said, and knew how to post this reply.
IronMike9000
Visionary
Platinum Level
Most companies end up settling discrimination cases. Lady only events discriminates based on sex. Anti discrimination law prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex, race, color, religion, and other protected characteristics. The below is an interesting article.The women of said event could file a suit, since it was a ladies only event, and get their money back for it. It could hurt the poker room a lot more, and they would put an end to ladies events, and so could other poker rooms. More guys will end up playing in ladies events!
Since it was listed as a ladies only event, there is no anti-discrimination on this since it was listed as a ladies event only. I watch a few in how the law is set up and done up, they would say the guy has no leg to stand on, with this one. Try finding one suit, vs a guys vs gals playing a game, any game to a guy filing a suit using anti-discrimination laws, and the guy winning it.
So CC would be violating the laws of every state, and other country's??? I as a gentlemen, find no need to take part in a ladies games, nor in the chat set up on here for ladies on here.. Tho I could give you 2 members, that would of done it at a drop of a hat.
Every state has anti-discrimination laws on the books, so does this end ladies poker events, for every poker room and online sites??
So on that, should women's only sports come to an end???
I had all day to think about what you said, and knew how to post this reply.
https://slate.com/human-interest/20...-organizations-for-gender-discrimination.html
IronMike9000
Visionary
Platinum Level
Legally he did nothing wrong, therefore you can't enforce any penalty.
Debi
Forum Admin
Administrator
The women of said event could file a suit, since it was a ladies only event, and get their money back for it. It could hurt the poker room a lot more, and they would put an end to ladies events, and so could other poker rooms. More guys will end up playing in ladies events!
Since it was listed as a ladies only event, there is no anti-discrimination on this since it was listed as a ladies event only. I watch a few in how the law is set up and done up, they would say the guy has no leg to stand on, with this one. Try finding one suit, vs a guys vs gals playing a game, any game to a guy filing a suit using anti-discrimination laws, and the guy winning it.
I had all day to think about what you said, and knew how to post this reply.
I am not going to debate state laws with you - you have to figure it all out for yourself. The host of that event was bound by state law to allow him to enter the event. You can accept it or not. You are just being ridiculously silly about CC so ignoring that. If you (or any other guys) insist on playing in our Ladies events we will simply cancel them.
Zorba
27
Platinum Level
whinwa
Rock Star
Bronze Level
Yeah - Not gonna open that can of worms here. Sad that people are actively trying to ruin it for others though <3
kidkvno1
Sarah's Pet
Bronze Level
It's odd that I can only seem to find it out via work, and not games or sports that are set up for women! They need to fight back, and stop caving into the suits! I'm not into law, but I could make a very great point of why ladies events should only have ladies in them.
Sex Discrimination - FAQs
Select any of the questions below to get quick answers to some common questions about sex discrimination.
Based on that, a ladies only game, to which ladies only want to play with ladies has very good standing at working out, in ladies filing a suit, and only need to say that a guy was harassing them in the event, and can be sued for it. Harassing could be anything from an odd look or saying anything.
You can blame the feminist, on this taking place. The only news story's I can find are two guys suing places in CA, it would be their 41st suit for doing so. The owners taking on this crap from them can counter sue, proving that the 2 of them have a pattern of harassing all ladies events and get sued them self's. I've not seen this in any other state yet, 10 to 1 they are just wanting to crash ladies events. CC can keep running ladies games all you want to and keep guys out of it, you just need to show that some will harass the ladies. I've seen it in other games on here. I tend to jump on the other ones who are doing it and tell them to STFU when I see it.
Chica_bonita
Sad Funny Lady🌬
Bronze Level
Maybe it's stupid, but I see a way out of discouraging men from getting into our games in only one way: to set a really very high cost of entry to the tournament, and at the same time a very high percentage of discounts for women.
Something like: entry $20,000 and a 99.9% discount for women. 🙈🙉🙊
Thus, men will have no desire to fit into such an event, and if there is a crazy enthusiast, then women will be able to profit from it, since the prize fund will grow dramatically.
Although, I'm sure that this is also an impossible option, but you can dream.😄
Something like: entry $20,000 and a 99.9% discount for women. 🙈🙉🙊
Thus, men will have no desire to fit into such an event, and if there is a crazy enthusiast, then women will be able to profit from it, since the prize fund will grow dramatically.
Although, I'm sure that this is also an impossible option, but you can dream.😄