Hustler Casino Live Controversy

[zorro222_zorro222]

For anybody that likes to see interesting poker hands, you need to google a hand between Garrett and Robbi that happened a few hours ago on the Hustler Casino Live broadcast.... it's one of the craziest hands I have ever seen !!

Garrett Adelstein Accuses Player of Cheating on Hustler Casino Live Stream

Last night, Garrett Adelstein sat stunned and stupefied as tens of thousands of people watched the high-stakes specialist and livestream poker star

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[zorro222_zorro222]

would love to hear what everyone thinks once they have seen it, I am sure there will be some different opinions on this one.

 

[DS3]

would love to hear what everyone thinks once they have seen it, I am sure there will be some different opinions on this one.

Hey zorro222_zorro222...trust me, hours later I still do not have a firm opinion. Okay, it was suspect as all hell. I missed it live then returned home as all hell was breaking loose. Was distracted again and good job otherwise I would have obsessed over it.

First things first. I like Garrett and have never seen him react as he did, shocked, as he is a gracious loser no matter the size of the pot. Obviously in the moment he believed something was completely amiss. Andy Stacks is another sat at the table instantly concluding something shady had taken place. I can see why everyone else leapt to the cheating conclusion in real time.

Robbi does not help her cause either by misrepresenting facts to the point it looked like she lied - I'll concede stressful/confrontational situation on a live stream, but...

The hand made zero sense.
At one point Robbi said she misread her cards but she didn't.
Robbi said she did not look back at her cards but she did for several seconds.
Robbi then claimed she thought Garrett had ace high yet she called $100K with jack high.

Then, it would appear RIP got involved (off camera) and claimed he was staking her when she is said to be married to a wealthy LA lawyer. Obviously the verbal sparring outside of the room looked really weird with RIP involved for no apparent reason (at first).

Then you have the question of why she returned $100K to Garrett - Hustler claimed she volunteered to do so -not sure if all this is actually confirmed.

I am undecided. It's easy to leap to the cheat conclusion but it could just be a really, really poorly played, spewey hand...and then Robbi felt embarrassed to the point of returning money (none of it makes sense). Finally Joey Ingram when high (he admitted) jumping into to insta-investigate was idiotic and added nothing.

Finally, I think Hustlers has to be a little bit careful here. No one really understands where Robbi materialized from and that applies even more to RIP the cowboy. They had one cheating scandal already and many at the time said they need to filter their players better. I agree on that front. I think I would prefer the dust settles and maybe Garrett settles with Robbi (unless something is proven) otherwise its going to leave a bad taste.

What are your thoughts?

 

[KUN_AGUERO_KROOS]

Yes, it was a bad call.

But it makes no sense to know your opponent's cards and then decide to flip and run twice.

That would've been a terrible spot to cheat. You have to avoid tons of outs.

I'm pretty sure she doesn't really care about that amount of money and went YOLO mode or it was a brain fart.

Either way, shame on Garrett for demanding an explanation and bullying her. Grow a pair, sore loser. Give her money back.

 

[RustyRed83]

It was a shocking call, maybe she misread her hand. I will refrain from calling it cheating, like many others are doing on Twitter. I would prefer to see the whole session to see how she played overall, if you were to pick a spot to cheat, that was not it. Seems like she was bullied into giving the money back too.

 

[abbershey]

I think is slanderous to even call it a hint of cheating. Garret showed his true colors its ok for him to take big bucks but when he is called its cheating ? No way What people should be saying is why did he make suck a stupid shove. It was highly likely he was on a draw and he got called cuz she misread her hand . He should be suspended from the show for his childish behavior. Though she misread her hand she made an excellent read., I really hope that she didn't give him the money back . iF you really don't care about the money please give it to me it would be a life changing amount.

 

[EnzoRS94]

He often makes stupid shoves, and this was one of them.
It's horrendous to call that cheating maybe she misread her hand, such childish behaviour from Garrett tho.

 

[DS3]

I think is slanderous to even call it a hint of cheating. Garret showed his true colors its ok for him to take big bucks but when he is called its cheating ? No way What people should be saying is why did he make suck a stupid shove. It was highly likely he was on a draw and he got called cuz she misread her hand . He should be suspended from the show for his childish behavior. Though she misread her hand she made an excellent read., I really hope that she didn't give him the money back . iF you really don't care about the money please give it to me it would be a life changing amount.

Garrett has won and lost millions and never reacted that way.

He has lost countless hands bigger than this and always does so with a smile of his face, even to players such as Wesley who claimed to not know what they were doing.

Then- I am not clear (and presume neither is anyone else) of what took place outside of the room when RIP was involved and shouting. Hustler at one point said that Robbi volunteered to give the money back, I said above that I can't confirm that. I also said I hope they can settle this.

But, if you don't want people to claim Robbi is a cheat (I didn't for instance) then don't then conclude anything about Garrett as I am not aware that has been cleared up as yet. As far as I can see poker news has not updated for many hours so everyone is left hanging still leaping to conclusions one way and another.

I am going to try to find the time to watch the stream from the hand onwards but have not had the opportunity yet. However, having watched Garrett for hundreds of hours, I am familiar with his table presence and everyone knows how he handles himself. I don't know Robbi but for a few sessions.

 

[zorro222_zorro222]

Hey zorro222_zorro222...trust me, hours later I still do not have a firm opinion. Okay, it was suspect as all hell. I missed it live then returned home as all hell was breaking loose. Was distracted again and good job otherwise I would have obsessed over it.

First things first. I like Garrett and have never seen him react as he did, shocked, as he is a gracious loser no matter the size of the pot. Obviously in the moment he believed something was completely amiss. Andy Stacks is another sat at the table instantly concluding something shady had taken place. I can see why everyone else leapt to the cheating conclusion in real time.

Robbi does not help her cause either by misrepresenting facts to the point it looked like she lied - I'll concede stressful/confrontational situation on a live stream, but...

The hand made zero sense.
At one point Robbi said she misread her cards but she didn't.
Robbi said she did not look back at her cards but she did for several seconds.
Robbi then claimed she thought Garrett had ace high yet she called $100K with jack high.

Then, it would appear RIP got involved (off camera) and claimed he was staking her when she is said to be married to a wealthy LA lawyer. Obviously the verbal sparring outside of the room looked really weird with RIP involved for no apparent reason (at first).

Then you have the question of why she returned $100K to Garrett - Hustler claimed she volunteered to do so -not sure if all this is actually confirmed.

I am undecided. It's easy to leap to the cheat conclusion but it could just be a really, really poorly played, spewey hand...and then Robbi felt embarrassed to the point of returning money (none of it makes sense). Finally Joey Ingram when high (he admitted) jumping into to insta-investigate was idiotic and added nothing.

Finally, I think Hustlers has to be a little bit careful here. No one really understands where Robbi materialized from and that applies even more to RIP the cowboy. They had one cheating scandal already and many at the time said they need to filter their players better. I agree on that front. I think I would prefer the dust settles and maybe Garrett settles with Robbi (unless something is proven) otherwise its going to leave a bad taste.

What are your thoughts?

First off, thanks for adding the clip, I was watching it live and there wasn't a clip available yet when I posted and went to bed shortly after.
My initial thoughts were WTF ?!?!, just like the rest of the table, I couldn't comprehend what just happened. Then, after pausing the video and re-watching it and listening to what Robbi said during the hand, I suspected that she misread her hand and thought she had turned two pair and was too embarrassed to say anything when she realized she didn't. As it turns out, this is indeed what she claimed happened per her interview a few hours later. And yes I did see her look at her back at her cards during the hand, but I think it was just a habitual thing to do and she was so convinced and into the hand she didn't notice. If you look at her reaction when she finally turns over her hand and the rest of the table's reaction when she does is when she realized she messed up and gets internally conflicted on how to play it. I also think that's why she said 'I thought you had ace high' when she was still unwilling to admit she misread her hand but was giving an explanation as to why she called.
I totally understand why Garrett thought there might be some funny business happening given that her explanation right after and not saying she misread her hand, made absolutely no sense but I honestly don't think she was cheating at all.
I have a lot of respect for Garrett and I hope that when he hears her true explanation and understands that she misread her hand and that there was no cheating going on, he will give the money back to her. I, just like you, have no idea why she gave the money back to Garrett in the first place but that's a question for her I guess.
As for RIP the cowboy, I think his yelling, screaming and calling Garrett names (can be heard in the background of the video just before Garrett comes back to the table and packs up his chips) was totally uncalled for but I do understand his frustration with Garrett accepting the money Robbi offered to give back to him.
All in all, I think this is one of the most interesting hands I have seen for a while and I wish that Robbi would have just said in the moment that she misread her hand because that would have cleared up a lot of confusion in the moment. Although it did give us a lot to talk about.

 

[MattRyder]

It’s a matter of scope and context I think. People play STUPID all the time. Not “usually” quite this “seemingly” stupid. Not usually for this much money. It also doesn’t usually include a woman dressed provocatively trash talking the man she just “owned” afterwards on streaming video. Then she pays him off??

Crazy shit - welcome to poker in the anything-goes, live streaming era!

 

[KUN_AGUERO_KROOS]

But, if you don't want people to claim Robbi is a cheat (I didn't for instance) then don't then conclude anything about Garrett as I am not aware that has been cleared up as yet.

I think it's pretty clear from his tweets he cornered her and demanded an explanation off camera which is pretty f*ed up thing to do.

I don't think he would've done that if he won that flip.

Like someone wrote on twitter, the HCL stream is built to make Garrett look like a hero playing against a bunch of donks,

the moment things don't go his way, he calls his buddy Ryan to handle things for him.

 

[Daniel72]

Why should someone "cheat" for a 50:50 flip running it twice LOL

 

[DS3]

I think it's pretty clear from his tweets he cornered her and demanded an explanation off camera which is pretty f*ed up thing to do.

I don't think he would've done that if he won that flip.

Like someone wrote on twitter, the HCL stream is built to make Garrett look like a hero playing against a bunch of donks,

the moment things don't go his way, he calls his buddy Ryan to handle things for him.

It's understandable some like Garrett and some don't. I like him but I do not fan boy over anyone. I am trying to be objective.

How did Garrett corner her? I have thoughts on his behavior (see next post) but then your comment about the stream set up for him to play donks, the moment things don't go his way...well, that only sounds like coming from someone who doesn't like Garrett. Your prerogative.

However...he calls his buddy Ryan. Really?

Garrett, again, has won and lost millions on the stream and never acted that way. So, if you are privy to times when Garrett has turned to Ryan that I have missed feel free to point them out.

 

[abbershey]

Garrett has won and lost millions and never reacted that way.

He has lost countless hands bigger than this and always does so with a smile of his face, even to players such as Wesley who claimed to not know what they were doing.

Then- I am not clear (and presume neither is anyone else) of what took place outside of the room when RIP was involved and shouting. Hustler at one point said that Robbi volunteered to give the money back, I said above that I can't confirm that. I also said I hope they can settle this.

But, if you don't want people to claim Robbi is a cheat (I didn't for instance) then don't then conclude anything about Garrett as I am not aware that has been cleared up as yet. As far as I can see Poker News has not updated for many hours so everyone is left hanging still leaping to conclusions one way and another.

I am going to try to find the time to watch the stream from the hand onwards but have not had the opportunity yet. However, having watched Garrett for hundreds of hours, I am familiar with his table presence and everyone knows how he handles himself. I don't know Robbi but for a few sessions.

He showed himself a ;loser and a bully From what i hear she gave him his money back which is a real shame . He played dumb and she called him he lost if he cant take losing that much he shouldn't buy in for so much. What if she saw a tell how would it be any different / no one should ever have to explain why they did what they do in a game. She should have just said i saw you do that thing that you do when you are bluffing and i say that you where on the DRAW SO I GAMBLED.

 

[jonaselloco]

Garrett ha ganado y perdido millones y nunca reaccionó de esa manera.

Ha perdido innumerables manos más grandes que esta y siempre lo hace con una sonrisa en la cara, incluso ante jugadores como Wesley, que afirmaba no saber lo que estaba haciendo.

Entonces, no tengo claro (y supongo que nadie más lo tiene) de lo que sucedió fuera de la habitación cuando RIP estaba involucrado y gritando. Hustler en un momento dijo que Robbi se ofreció como voluntario para devolver el dinero, dije anteriormente que no puedo confirmar eso. También dije que espero que puedan resolver esto.

Pero, si no quiere que la gente afirme que Robbi es un tramposo (yo no lo hice, por ejemplo), entonces no concluya nada sobre Garrett, ya que no estoy al tanto de que eso se haya aclarado todavía. Por lo que puedo ver, Poker News no se ha actualizado durante muchas horas, por lo que todos quedan colgados y sacando conclusiones precipitadas de una forma u otra.

Voy a tratar de encontrar el tiempo para ver la transmisión de la mano en adelante, pero aún no he tenido la oportunidad. Sin embargo, habiendo observado a Garrett durante cientos de horas, estoy familiarizado con su presencia en la mesa y todos saben cómo se maneja. No conozco a Robbi, pero por algunas sesiones.

Hi friend. I didn't know about the situation so I did some research to get advice.
Of all the conclusions that were drawn, it really seems to me
Next:

1st No one doubts that you have to be half crazy to make that call as the woman did, but it was done and in truth Garrett, no matter how many odds / outs he has, did not have the hand won, much less, he was making a semibliff and it came out very wrong.

2nd If Garrett instead of being against the lady, his hand had happened facing Phil Ivey, he would not have made any claim. The claim was made because I am reading that the lady was not well known. If you see the video that I leave you below, could it be said that Ivey cheated and knew what cards the opponent had???

3rd Garrett was upset because the woman, who had the money to pay that bet, paid and played to make him look stupid.

4th Perhaps also analyze that the woman has seen him make this type of plays to Garrett, she analyzed her game and played it that she won the big hand. Because to tell the truth, the hand is memorable. What's more, I think that if I'm in Garrett's place I get up and play chess or some other game.

5th If you have played cash tables, you know very well that if a character with money thinks he beats you with 43 and you have AA he pays you the same, and if he sees a turn and thinks you were bluffing a character with money he pays you Same. To consider, somewhere I read that the lady is the wife of a very famous and wealthy lawyer. That she knows any of us if the lawyer is angry with Garrett and told the woman: "dear, pay Garrett with anything, make him look stupid, I'm your bank"

6th The contradictory part of women. If she had normally won that hand she wouldn't have had to make the excuses she did. She should have said "I knew he was bluffing, I paid and took the consequences" and full stop. Nothing to give so many explanations. If I lost I was like a stupid and he was like a hero, and if I won I was the hero and he was like an idiot.

There are certain things that came to my mind. Of course, the reason or truth is neither you, nor I, nor anyone else. Only the owners of the TV show and the Casino will know what really happened.

I must give you the reason that this propaganda is not profitable for the Casino. Last time in another post you replied to what I thanked you for, with information about the case of a player who had been denounced for cheating or fraud, just as there have been many denounced for this reason. For the Casino it is a lousy advertisement.

I tell you that I am not against your comment, on the contrary I like it because you detailed it very clearly, and it is seen that you follow this television show made from a Casino. It happens, I think that when there is money at stake, mmmm, a fight of this type is always going to happen.

That's why I don't like everything that is cash tables. I can sit for days watching an MTT anywhere in the world, but cash tables I don't waste a second of my time.

Greetings friend, and thanks for letting me express. I may be wrong, but at the end of the day, it's just another thought.

 

[DS3]

First off, thanks for adding the clip, I was watching it live and there wasn't a clip available yet when I posted and went to bed shortly after.
My initial thoughts were WTF ?!?!, just like the rest of the table, I couldn't comprehend what just happened. Then, after pausing the video and re-watching it and listening to what Robbi said during the hand, I suspected that she misread her hand and thought she had turned two pair and was too embarrassed to say anything when she realized she didn't. As it turns out, this is indeed what she claimed happened per her interview a few hours later. And yes I did see her look at her back at her cards during the hand, but I think it was just a habitual thing to do and she was so convinced and into the hand she didn't notice. If you look at her reaction when she finally turns over her hand and the rest of the table's reaction when she does is when she realized she messed up and gets internally conflicted on how to play it. I also think that's why she said 'I thought you had ace high' when she was still unwilling to admit she misread her hand but was giving an explanation as to why she called.
I totally understand why Garrett thought there might be some funny business happening given that her explanation right after and not saying she misread her hand, made absolutely no sense but I honestly don't think she was cheating at all.
I have a lot of respect for Garrett and I hope that when he hears her true explanation and understands that she misread her hand and that there was no cheating going on, he will give the money back to her. I, just like you, have no idea why she gave the money back to Garrett in the first place but that's a question for her I guess.
As for RIP the cowboy, I think his yelling, screaming and calling Garrett names (can be heard in the background of the video just before Garrett comes back to the table and packs up his chips) was totally uncalled for but I do understand his frustration with Garrett accepting the money Robbi offered to give back to him.
All in all, I think this is one of the most interesting hands I have seen for a while and I wish that Robbi would have just said in the moment that she misread her hand because that would have cleared up a lot of confusion in the moment. Although it did give us a lot to talk about.

I see that clip has already been removed...obviously the You Tube stream is there to watch.

Good job I bothered with the 888 Bronze free roll and made a deep (pointless) run because it gave me time to rewatch the stream and make detailed notes along the way. So I can give a minute by minute breakdown of key points. but I'll spare that for now.

At this point I do not believe she cheated. But, she sure as hell acts in a questionable manner and misrepresents details which border on outright lying at times - the story changes.

Robbi later claims she midread her hand and she did not look back at her cards. She obviously did, in fact she lifted her cards for over ten seconds after Garrett went all in on the turn. She repeated this in the 'interview', which I actually felt was quite good in terms of an explanation, except for that fact. However, after Robbie returned to the table (with RIP spewing incorrect facts everywhere after his confrontation) she corrected RIP and said Garrett was not accusing Hustlers of cheating but her (around 3.10) she then almost immediately backs off that also and says that Garrett was simply upset. Later in the interview she admits that she offered to return the winnings to save everyone the drama.

I enjoy studying human behavior and I can't quite get a grip on Robbi. She throws some attitude at times and at first I thought she acts tough to cover nerves. But, by this episode I think she is quite practised and polished at throwing said attitude. She was needling Garrett stupidly after the hand and even Mike X later said, she won the hand she should have let it go. I am pretty confident she's been in such situations before and I wondered about home game scenarios because she is obviously an experienced player (if maybe not talented). She is obviously not a poker 'rookie' as everyone keeps calling her. Then of course you had Eric Persson epically stirring the pot and mocking Garrett (I really felt like Garrett should have told him to STFU). Ditto RIP.

So, though I do not think Robbi cheated, she rubs me the wrong way and I think she is something of a provocative BS artist.

So to Garrett.

I have never seen Garrett lose his temper, raise his voice no matter the loss. I don't imagine when he left the table it was to demand he got his money back. But therein lies the problem and Hustler will need to clear this up. Was he out and out stating he had been cheated? If that is the case then it would be very off putting. I can imagine that after getting needled by Robbi ('You look like you want to kill me' etc. when Garrett was saying nothing at all - then Persson and RIP piling on) he might have lost his cool. But, I think a pause for some cooling off and the conclusion had to be Robbi mangled the hand and it paid off.

There has been this update on POker News where they are still at odds with Robbi Lew calling for a heads up match to settle the score. I am sure Nick Vertucci and Ryan Feldman are drooling at that as a possibility - that would be the biggest Hustler stream ever!

Adelstein, Lew Tell Contrasting Stories Regarding Controversial HCL Hand

Who initiated the discussion about paying back the money? It's anyone's guess.

www.pokernews.com

 

[DS3]

He showed himself a ;loser and a bully From what i hear she gave him his money back which is a real shame . He played dumb and she called him he lost if he cant take losing that much he shouldn't buy in for so much. What if she saw a tell how would it be any different / no one should ever have to explain why they did what they do in a game. She should have just said i saw you do that thing that you do when you are bluffing and i say that you where on the DRAW SO I GAMBLED.

For god's sake, Garrett has won and lost millions of that very stream.

Further, Robbi admitted she volunteered she offered to give the money back - Garrett did not demand it. Try to keep things objective and facts based.

If Garrett is going to insist he was cheated he is going to look very foolish but the idea Garrett can't take a beat is idiotic as anyone who watches the streams would know

 

[lcid86]

Giving the money back makes no sense. Call was crazy, but who knows what she was thinking? If she had lost, she wouldn't have been given a refund. She won, keep the money.

 

[DS3]

Hi friend. I didn't know about the situation so I did some research to get advice.
Of all the conclusions that were drawn, it really seems to me

Hey jonaselloco... can't say I disagree with anything you say, but, as you will see I made couple more replies explaining what I thought had happened -thanks for making the points.

Robbi does not help her cause by misstating some points repeatedly, backtracking on items. She claims she thought she had J3, but then looked at her cards for over tens seconds after the all-in was called on the turn. She then stated she thought Garrett had ace high which make zero sense when she was holding jack high.

Finally, she ain't a 'rookie' - anyone can see she is experienced.

Don't get me wrong, Garrett is going to look dreadful if he keeps maintaining she cheated...but, she is has not helped herself at times.

 

[jonaselloco]

Hola , jonaselloco ... no puedo decir que no esté de acuerdo con nada de lo que dices, pero, como verás, hice un par de respuestas más explicando lo que pensé que había sucedido, gracias por señalar los puntos.

Robbi no ayuda a su causa tergiversando algunos puntos repetidamente, retrocediendo en los elementos. Ella afirma que pensó que tenía J3, pero luego miró sus cartas durante más de diez segundos después de que se pagara el all-in en el turn. Luego dijo que pensaba que Garrett tenía un as alto, lo que no tiene ningún sentido cuando tenía una jota alta.

Finalmente, ella no es una 'novata'; cualquiera puede ver que tiene experiencia.

No me malinterpreten, Garrett se verá horrible si sigue diciendo que ella hizo trampa... pero, a veces, ella no se ha ayudado a sí misma.

Hello brother
Sure, I totally agree with you.
The lady's mistake is what I told you, if she had said things like "I paid him because he's a liar" or "I paid him because I was fed up with his bluffs" or any other reason that justifies why she paid, it would have been a lot more believable in her, and there if she had made Garrett look totally stupid.
But she tried to give excuses that I don't find justification either. That of justifying the J3, that if I look or that she got confused, or other excuses, the only thing that makes me understand that she is really the liar.
Making those silly justifications she takes us all for stupid, even the viewers.
And Garrett takes her justifications, just to create the conflict. I'm not really telling you that Garrett has the truth, I'm just saying that if I were in Garrett's place I would simply think the same as him. That somehow the woman paid me because she knew what cards I had.
Despite being a television show, the matter is more complex than one imagines. Because in truth the issues of fraud and cheating are the order of the day in this Casino.
Moreover, a while ago I was researching on youtube and poker news sites, and I really did not imagine that there were so many reports of fraud and cheating, and that so many players had been banned for them.
Greetings friend, and thanks for answering.

 

[KUN_AGUERO_KROOS]

It's understandable some like Garrett and some don't. I like him but I do not fan boy over anyone. I am trying to be objective.

How did Garrett corner her? I have thoughts on his behavior (see next post) but then your comment about the stream set up for him to play donks, the moment things don't go his way...well, that only sounds like coming from someone who doesn't like Garrett. Your prerogative.

However...he calls his buddy Ryan. Really?

Garrett, again, has won and lost millions on the stream and never acted that way. So, if you are privy to times when Garrett has turned to Ryan that I have missed feel free to point them out.

IDK, man. The way ur defending his behaviour and the fact you've willingly watched him play enough times to say he's never acted this way tell me otherwise. But that's your prerogative to be a fan

You go ahead and tell me he does not have VIP treatment there.

Calling the producer to set something like a poker trial where she HAS to defend her play. WTF

Does every player get to do that?

And how about pressuring her saying stuff like "ur gonna look bad".

You can say that I don't like him or that I am a hater, but the truth is a lot of his fans are disappointed with him.

 

[MAGICUZ]

I just watched this distribution and I have no explanation for thisCall on the turn $105,000 for jack high She couldn't even explain why she did it, apparently she understands poker more than we do.No matter how there were winners are not judged.I'm still impressed

 

[DS3]

IDK, man. The way ur defending his behaviour and the fact you've willingly watched him play enough times to say he's never acted this way tell me otherwise. But that's your prerogative to be a fan

You go ahead and tell me he does not have VIP treatment there.

Calling the producer to set something like a poker trial where she HAS to defend her play. WTF

Does every player get to do that?

And how about pressuring her saying stuff like "ur gonna look bad".

You can say that I don't like him or that I am a hater, but the truth is a lot of his fans are disappointed with him.

Seriously, go find a clip of Garrett losing his cool in the manner Robbi has now implied (outside in a darkened corridor?) anywhere. He is renowned for taking a bad beat graciously- in part because he gives so many. Was he not shocked but calm at the table?

Garrett is so admired because he is seen as one of the most polite players who never loses his cool. I have no skin in this game, as I said I never fan boy over anyone and if someone I like disappoints me, I have no issue amending my view.

As regards Garrett talking to Ryan Feldman, of course he did because Feldman (as stated) knew this was going to go viral as it made no sense. Yes, I am sure he is prioritized as Garrett has been the biggest draw to the stream since inception- they got him to move most of his play from Live At The Bike for a reason.

The tone you took in your post meant I could only conclude you pre-judged him. I have been objective from the outset, not claimed she cheated and only pointed out she made false claims and her story changed.

Want to know who has mirrored everything I said from the outset? Doug Polk.

Polk actually concludes that he believes she likely cheated but is not 100% sure and asks people to be objective. That said. he points out how her story falls apart numerous times and she blatantly lies over whether she checked her holding. Furthermore, having just watched his clip he confirms that she has ten years of experience (Hendon Mob) so she is not a 'rookie' as everyone is pretending although her buy ins shot up since May.

Then, the plot thickens. Reliable sources told Polk that though she has said to be married, she is known to be dating RIP (Jacob) who is thought to be one of Jake Paul's managers. If that is true, then they obviously hid the fact from everyone at the table when he showed for his first session on the stream so that could be more deception. That would explain why RIP felt entitled to make it his business.

Here's Polks take for what it's worth and I'll now head over to see how Matt Berkey has concluded she cheated...

 

[dallam]

I wanna believe she expressed herself bad, and she really thought its kinda a bluff. Of course if you have huge money to play with not meaning you can actually be a profitable player on the fields, and this lady seems for me that she knew how to play, although in some moments she is insecure and getting to lost. After that very poor showdown she has been directly and instant accused for cheating, and it just freezed her, and my point is that she can easily be under the affects of adrenaline, beating her opponent with the most badass card... however starting to realise that her hand was not a bluff-catcher, and she is accused for this.

All-in-all its a very rare outplay which should not be judged from the poker community, especially for those, who cannot even enter to a toutnament like this. Don't bully her please.

I wanna attach a video - where two tragic combinations met each other. Of course the party is different in a way, mainly if we see how the actions were lay down, but still similar for me - bluff catching without any hand-rate.

 

[MattRyder]

He showed himself a ;loser and a bully From what i hear she gave him his money back which is a real shame . He played dumb and she called him he lost if he cant take losing that much he shouldn't buy in for so much. What if she saw a tell how would it be any different / no one should ever have to explain why they did what they do in a game. She should have just said i saw you do that thing that you do when you are bluffing and i say that you where on the DRAW SO I GAMBLED.

Which is basically what she did say repeatedly.