Hellmuth loses a pot then instantly quits Live at the Bike stream..Then gets needled by Robbi Lew
S3mper
Moderating W/ Despotism
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I was watching this, the clip posted ITT doesn't show it but also regarding Robbi after this hand I wasn't a fan of her argument or idea she was saying that you're suppose to reload to win it back. In the clip you can hear her needles that the only way to get out of a hole is to keep digging - It wasn't like that as that sounds more like a joke/needle. Maybe she was just adding more needles/jokes and I wasn't picking up on it, though?
That said Hellmuth can certainly be an ass at the poker table and the alcohol was certainly flowing for Valentines Day so I wouldn't bury her for this. Or at the very least I wouldn't throw away the shovel.
Though the only things I've ever seen of her was this episode of Live at the Bike and the infamous J4 situation, which I didn't follow at all. I was just coming back to poker as it was breaking.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
I watched some of the show now, and it seems like, it was some sort of "Alan Keating and friends" game. Before they started, Alan interviewed everyone, and Phil explained, that he was in fact buying in deep to prove something to himself and the rest of the world, and that the 300k was his own money. Alan and Phil started with 300k each, but everyone else only with 50k or less. It was a 200/100 with a 200 ante game, then later with a straddle 400/200/100. So 300k is in fact insanely deep.
Before the game Alan even talked about, how he would try to stack Phil, but that this would not be easy, because Phil would nit up. At the beginning of the game Alan made some insanely large open raises and 3-bets in an apparent attempt to make the game larger and perhaps push Phil out of his comfort zone. So there was clearly some dynamic going on here, which is important to understand, what went down later.
Exactly. On the "Big Game" show 13 years ago (which I have watched repeatedly) he often started out winning. But when he hit just a bit of adversity, he always went on tilt, even if he was still up. In the very first show he berated Tony G for being "a bad winner" at a time, when Tony G was down 100k, while Phil Helmuth was only down a fraction of that.
The title of this post made me think, she was in the Hustler stream, but as you say, this was not the case. No idea why anobody still think, its interesting, what she write on social media.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
Oh please get real. She thought, she had J3 (bottom pair) and was making, what would have been a decent hero call putting Garrett on a draw. But instead she had J4 for absolutely nothing and made, what she perfectly well knew was a terrible call. This is also, why she gave Garrett his money back. She know, this big pot should not have happened, because she should of course have known her cards. So it was her way of sort of cancelling the hand.
However her pride, which is likely due to her arab background, prevented her from admitting, she had made such a terrible mistake for more than 100k. Her lack of honesty about, why she called, made Garrett believe, he had been cheated, and the rest, as we all know, is history. A very embassaring history for her, for Gary and for poker, so please, for the love of god, stop turning her into some kind of idol.
EmptyHouse
Rock Star
And here Phil was wrong. He thought he had AT on his hand:
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
To be fair AT was also a pure bluff catcher, as the action went down. A9 or worse are not betting flop, raising turn when donked into and then betting river. So it is at least possible, that Phil was trying to make some huge and badly timed hero call on stream with K high. But all in all more likely, that he misread his hand. Even the flop call was pretty loose with KT, since he just flopped a gutshot multiway, whereas AT would have been a much more standard call.
Shells
Moderator
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It was the same game but a different Phil H. hand that was discussed in another thread.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
I missed the fact, that this KK vs. AKs hand, where AKs flopped a flush in a 4-bet pot, and Phil instantly left the game after losing a big pot, was played at Live at The Bike the day after the game at Hustlers Casino. That at least explains, why he got needled by Robbi, since she was in fact in the game at Live at The Bike but not the one at Hustlers Casino.
Regardless Phil do seem to still have a lot of problems with his mental game. Reportedly he ended down just a small 4-digit amount from his entire trip to California. But he had been significantly up earlier on, and the swings made him cancel the rest of his planned appearances and fly back home. Not exactly a behaviour, which will do anything to remedy his image as a mediocre cash game player
Regardless Phil do seem to still have a lot of problems with his mental game. Reportedly he ended down just a small 4-digit amount from his entire trip to California. But he had been significantly up earlier on, and the swings made him cancel the rest of his planned appearances and fly back home. Not exactly a behaviour, which will do anything to remedy his image as a mediocre cash game player
Poker Orifice
Freeroller
Phil lives in California.I missed the fact, that this KK vs. AKs hand, where AKs flopped a flush in a 4-bet pot, and Phil instantly left the game after losing a big pot, was played at Live at The Bike the day after the game at Hustlers Casino. That at least explains, why he got needled by Robbi, since she was in fact in the game at Live at The Bike but not the one at Hustlers Casino.
Regardless Phil do seem to still have a lot of problems with his mental game. Reportedly he ended down just a small 4-digit amount from his entire trip to California. But he had been significantly up earlier on, and the swings made him cancel the rest of his planned appearances and fly back home. Not exactly a behaviour, which will do anything to remedy his image as a mediocre cash game player
jonaselloco
Visionary
Great player Phil.
For me he has a big problem.
He knows that they are winning, but he never stops paying.
If he did what his conscience dictated and saw that this is a game in which he can win and lose, he would do much better.
Greetings
For me he has a big problem.
He knows that they are winning, but he never stops paying.
If he did what his conscience dictated and saw that this is a game in which he can win and lose, he would do much better.
Greetings
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PokerisEasy402
Enthusiast
JappsPK
Rock Star
Hellmuth Hellmuth Hellmuth
Captainine9
Enthusiast
That flop should have been sucficient to stop hellmuth...
At least he's not as disgusting as Tony G
A millionair celebrity that acts like a child is now poor
At least he's not as disgusting as Tony G