Did anyone else read the article that its now offensive for the King to be stronger than the Queen, so theres talk about making the cards gender neutral, ill post the news article if i can find it again.

By the way, does anyone else feel a burning desire to just get off this planet?!

Come on ... this is nonsense. I respect everyone around me - regardless of gender or origin ... and that´s all it takes (respect and consideration). A discussion about genderism is therefor stupid for me.

Originally Posted by DesertStorm46

Did anyone else read the article that its now offensive for the King to be stronger than the Queen, so theres talk about making the cards gender neutral, ill post the news article if i can find it again.

By the way, does anyone else feel a burning desire to just get off this planet?!

Interesting topic.

Do you have a link to an article on this?

I think that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...playing-cards/

I also heard about this absurd idea ,, what about chess where the king is weaker than the queen, they will also introduce equal rights here ,,, the world turned upside down

Yes, some people have way too much free time at their hands and should do something productive. Gold medal on idiotic idea.

I have not heard of such news, and I hope not to hear this absurdity in action. It happens that some people have a bad head. They will rewrite history and tradition tomorrow. People with crazy ideas belong in a madhouse.

Not sure if we should be changing the beautiful game of poker.

Today I got knocked out shoving pocket golds into aces.

Originally Posted by PrinceJigger

Today I got knocked out shoving pocket golds into aces.

Dang 'golds'!

That is something I would have a hard time getting used to.

Political correctness is going way too far.

Hi.
In my opinion, this makes no sense, and is more like insanity.

It's getting to the point, you just simply wont be able to talk anymore. Political correctness has already gone to far. Keep your circle small and there will be no problems. Other than being on these forums...lol. It's a huge circle...hahaha.

I am waiting for the day when people start demanding the ban of Santa Clause. Those poor elves are getting ripped off by that old geezer - why should HE get all the credit ?!?!

I'm just having a hard time of visualizing what the gender neutral Santa would look like

why is the king more important than the queen in chess..?? it's just not right...the queen does all the work but gets none of the credit...and the queen is sometimes even sacrificed so the king can prevail. It's barbaric i tell ya...

Originally Posted by DesertStorm46

...By the way, does anyone else feel a burning desire to just get off this planet?!

I am ready, when is the next bus... too many have lost their minds on this planet. We have some seriously larger problems right now than the game pieces of a game.

Its funny, this is not an issue to me, but then neither is it an issue that some Dutch psychologist has pointed out bias stems from many existing conditions. It says more that people get bent out of shape about her thesis rather than the thesis itself - the defensiveness underlines her point. Pretty much the definition of being a snowflake.

Just a reminder - the US just elected its first women vice president (and first vice president of color and Asian background) in 233 years. Yes, that's how long it took to get to VP Kamala Harris - centuries.

So, perhaps we could all progress society a little faster by conceding gender bias is real (as are other biases) and is still prevalent in this day and age. In other words society might be better served if some stop being a drama queens over someone inventing a new deck of cards.

J<Q<K - may seem a bit sexist but that ranking has been around FOREVER. It's not changing any century soon.

Originally Posted by Rowdy Greg

J<Q<K - may seem a bit sexist but that ranking has been around FOREVER. It's not changing any century soon.

Indeed, but is that not the entire point? To be clear, I am not personally bothered one jot if I play with KJQ….or whatever.

However, the idea someone is starting any conversation about gender bias is generally good. Yes cards have existed for centuries but gender bias and male dominance for millennia. I like some re-calibration some re-balancing. Not too long ago men ‘owned’ women.

The KQJ existed on cards centuries before women were even allowed to vote. But over the last 100 years or so we have accepted (finally) that women can play poker, fly jet fighters, referee a football or basketball games (pass me the smelling salts) and as above can lead a country.

Who is Interesting to initiate such ideas? where the world is heading

I don't think it would be worth the effort to change kings and queens to be gender neutral. This is an old game, and I think it should just be left alone as it is. There are far more important issues regarding sexism in poker, but they are around creepy old men making sexual comments about women at the table, not the make up of a deck of cards. Next they will go after chess... maybe some things can just be left alone.

Originally Posted by DesertStorm46

Did anyone else read the article that its now offensive for the King to be stronger than the Queen, so theres talk about making the cards gender neutral, ill post the news article if i can find it again. By the way, does anyone else feel a burning desire to just get off this planet?!

hi hi!!!
this one of the most stupid things i ever hear
suppose might be best use transgender pronouns for those cards?
you americans have lost your minds?
can't use mother, father, sister etc either?
no sure if laugh or cry
*shakes head*

Id rather not have this king of change. I play chess and poker and I don't see the need to be bent out of shape over king or queen ranking higher. Needing everything to be gender neutral is going too far. The game(s) themselves don't instill prejudice but rather the persons making the arguments as such. I don't feel less of a man because the queen ranks higher in chess nor do I feel like I tower over women because the king ranks higher in poker. They make for good jokes in casual conversations which might be where this stems from because somewhere along the line someone couldn't take a joke and got bent out of shape about it.

my two cents

Interesting discussion. I believe in equal human rights for all and agree that we should all try to play a role in achieving that. Gender neutral playing cards won't help and really just seems to make the issue seem less important.

That's something I've never given any thought too, but it is interesting to ponder.

What would you do with a Jack?

What would you call them...Just have them labelled J, Q, K,...or 11, 12, 13?

Who would want #13? That's bad luck, and a lot of marks to look at.

I'm not arguing for either side, because I really don't care. It's just some interesting things to look at.

Be interesting to see if anything comes of it.

I don't know how I missed this article but CardsChat posted one back in January regarding this very topic.

Woke Culture Comes to Poker: Gender Neutral Cards Stir Up a Storm

It's amazing what the Gender Sect does! Everything is misunderstood and they are offended in everything. Referring to equality they discriminate. For the time being, it is only a small group, but in a short time they pose a great threat to our society and culture!

What a time to be alive haha

Originally Posted by Austria7

Come on ... this is nonsense. I respect everyone around me - regardless of gender or origin ... and that´s all it takes (respect and consideration). A discussion about genderism is therefor stupid for me.

Poker has changed in recent years, and it has become difficult to play, but I do not give up

I would never put any kind of tought to a game older then peoples rights to have gender equality in it

Hope this is not a topic to start controversy between CC members. No matter what happens, the king will always be male, the queen female, I don't understand why they have to change everything to "not offend people" if people ask so much that they accept themselves as they are, why they don't accept things as they are? It really seems ridiculous to me that they are going to do something like that to poker.

That's stupid. I am a woman and i can not imagine being offended because the King is stronger than the Queen.
It does not make sense at all.
I definitely don't like this "new world"

Originally Posted by Shells

I don't know how I missed this article but CardsChat posted one back in January regarding this very topic.

Woke Culture Comes to Poker: Gender Neutral Cards Stir Up a Storm

Originally Posted by gregorio pachuca

you should find the article looks interesting,

There is a link to the article up there. ^^^

I believe it is a tradition in poker that Kings are stronger than Queens. And it is not harmful. The way that a group of people try to represent as a threat to the new gender ideology it is just insane.

Stopping here a little bit I do believe all these gay-lesbian-transgender etc. sexuality questions all these skin-color questions turning people's thoughts about another direction. As long as it is not harmful to any other person, why don't you be what you want? Why all of these hate and strong acception in the air?

While some of you will fight for sexuality rights and skin rights, there are people who are starving, living in military places where the life-conditions aren't exist, they have to fight for each day to survive. And there are never-seen climate change which have been experienced in the last decades.

So I'm asking, is it that important to leave a huge voice in genders and skins, or it would be easier to accept them what they are, and move on some serious questions in life which affect people's right to live?

Ahem, I think folx need to pick their battles a little more carefully. Then again, as humans go, distraction is so shiny and sparkly and very... What's the topic, again?
I will say that dramaqueens are stronger than kings. C'mon, we can laugh about this silly issue, which is all it is. K's will always beat Q's. If someone has a problem w/that then maybe they should play chess or go to a Nevada brothel instead, ya know, where queens do beat kings; N'awlens, as well. Any casinos in the Keys? Try not to stay distracted too much. The rest of us have poker to play.

The 2 - 10 cards will have to be equal value also, can't have the 6's thinking they are better than the 2's, and the 10's thinking they're better than the 6's, some may commit suicide.

Originally Posted by BustyBusters

What a time to be alive haha

Isn't it though?

Well, I don't think that it's respectful to the Irish that clubs are the weakest suit.

In all seriousness, if cards offend you, then don't play with them.

I mean, its not something worth to get triggered about, its not like it will happen. They can release the gender neutral deck and who ever wants to play with it do it, if you dont just play with the old deck and you will be fine...

This is interesting but strange. It’s a game, why do people think that even a card game had to have equal rights, and I don’t think that they should create gender neutral cards, the original is always the best one.

Bleeding Heart Liberals again finding another reason to make life more unbearable, a King will always be more valuable than a Queen as that is the way it is, I do not see a Man or a Woman when I see these cards I see RANKS!
Just like in the army A General is more powerful than a Major, and he is more powerful than a Captain. or viser-versa it really does not matter. What matters is we see them as higher in position and value than other cards.
The same as in Chess a King is the most valuable piece and the Queen comes next in Rank! I do not see MEN versus WOMEN. In fact as far as I am concerned in Chess the Queen happens to be more powerful than the King because of how IT! can move on the board, as opposed to the King who can only move one place at a time.
So Come on People it,s a bloody GAME!

When the fun Stops, STOP!

Don't stop the Fun!