Focus to shift from Federal to State-by-State Platform in 2013

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Does anybody know when these sites will start operating in Nevada?
 
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I hope they work something out soon. I've learned not to get my hopes up, though.
 
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Well...that will take longer to get online poker widely available.

On the other hand, my guess is that the various states that employ online sites will have slightly different models. Some models will be superior to others, and eventually, some state will develop an ideal model that is safe for the players and profitable for the state. Others will follow...
 
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This is gonna get real ugly and I'm very disappointed Reid couldn't(wouldn't work with anyone) get a Federal bill through Congress. Online poker will never be like it ever was in the US I'm afraid. I think I read Christie in NJ only has a few weeks to sign the online gambling bill that is sitting on his desk, think Feb 7th was the date a read. Intrastate poker is gonna stink.
 
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I wish I could have hope for Georgia.
 
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Just looking for clarification. So do you have to be a resident of that state to join the site? Or is based off of your ip location or both? Does anyone the structure?
 
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all these sites will be intrastate only at first is my understanding. some states are looking at pooling players mostly because their state wont have a big enough player pool. they(i think) are waiting for federal guidelines to allow the pooling.

nevada is shooting to have free play first sometime mid spring to summer and real money by fall. most folks dont think this will happen and it would be more like JAN 2014.

if you work for a national company, seriously think about packing up the family and head to a poker friendly state near you. transfers within your company is the only way to fly, less stress then going to a new job and all.

happy poker play folks.
 
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Like so many of these "types" of posts I can only say "don't hold your breath" it will be longer rather than shorter. Thanks DOJ and George Bush!
 
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Be nice if Texas would get the finger out of you know where and do something. Texas would have plenty of traffic being such a big state.
 
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Sounds good to me. However, Alabama won't do it. They won't even get the lottery. My county, Blount, is one of 4 that is still dry, too.
 
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so bad for poker

gg online poker in US...State by state will be awful, at best, compared to federal
 
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I don,t really see how state by state will be good for poker either.I,m not sure I understand all the fine points of the whole thing really.Any step in the right direction, is probably helpful, we can hope.I guess there would be way fewer people playing on the state sites then too, so not so good in that sense. We can still have hope though for the future.
 
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This is gonna get real ugly and I'm very disappointed Reid couldn't(wouldn't work with anyone) get a Federal bill through Congress. Online poker will never be like it ever was in the US I'm afraid. I think I read Christie in NJ only has a few weeks to sign the online gambling bill that is sitting on his desk, think Feb 7th was the date a read. Intrastate poker is gonna stink.

Be glad that particular bill failed big time. The Reid/Kyl bill would have been the worst possible bill we can collectively imagine.

For one thing, one of the sections described how any existing B&M entity had to have 250 active (live) poker tables average just to qualify to get a license. There is no B&M casino in the world (to my knowledge) with 250 active live tables on average. Commerce Casino might do it, but that is a massive amount of real estate. The bill did not address whether or not some entity like Caesars could count all of their tables at all of their locations to get to that 250 number. In which case only the huge conglomerates could proceed.

Most of the rest of that bill was equally as convoluted and created nothing but nightmares.
 
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so bad for poker

gg online poker in US...State by state will be awful, at best, compared to federal

Not so sure about that. In the beginning, yes, but if, IF, interstate pacts arise, then international pacts can't be very far behind. Plus nothing I have read so far prevents any state who decides to enact laws from pooling their players into an existing international player pool. So just like one of them southern states created walls preventing international play by residents of that state, a state could also create openings to any site it deemed fit.
 
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Not so sure about that. In the beginning, yes, but if, IF, interstate pacts arise, then international pacts can't be very far behind. Plus nothing I have read so far prevents any state who decides to enact laws from pooling their players into an existing international player pool. So just like one of them southern states created walls preventing international play by residents of that state, a state could also create openings to any site it deemed fit.

Getting states to agree to interstate pacts is a much harder task then it sounds. What reason does a state like Nevada, which will have highest player count (in beginning), have for partnering with South Dakota? It doesn't. Yeah, some states like California, Nevada, Florida, New York, big population states could possibly work together, but that would just monopolize poker sites to the big states and anyone living in a smaller populous state = no good online sites.

The problem is the politicians/leaders don't care about the quality of play, player counts, etc. only about money (which i'm sure you know). By letting in other states/international player pools, it means their slice of the pie becomes smaller. Plus, all the red tape that comes along with having states sharing revenue is far too much for our pathetic government to handle.
 
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Be glad that particular bill failed big time. The Reid/Kyl bill would have been the worst possible bill we can collectively imagine.

For one thing, one of the sections described how any existing B&M entity had to have 250 active (live) poker tables average just to qualify to get a license. There is no B&M casino in the world (to my knowledge) with 250 active live tables on average. Commerce Casino might do it, but that is a massive amount of real estate. The bill did not address whether or not some entity like Caesars could count all of their tables at all of their locations to get to that 250 number. In which case only the huge conglomerates could proceed.

Most of the rest of that bill was equally as convoluted and created nothing but nightmares.
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Nevada does not have a big enough population to sustain multiple OLP sites. That is probably true even if every single Nevadan visited an OLP once a week.

These pacts will happen, maybe not till the kinks are ironed out, but they will happen.
 
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Nevada does not have a big enough population to sustain multiple OLP sites. That is probably true even if every single Nevadan visited an OLP once a week.

These pacts will happen, maybe not till the kinks are ironed out, but they will happen.

It most likely would, because in order to log in/play you would only have to be within the state, not an actual resident. Given the traffic to Vegas every year, then putting online poker hubs in rooms, hotels, casinos, etc. I would say that Nevada would have a sizeable gaming population ( in U.S. Terms obv, not compared to ROW)

Your forgetting the state's don't care about big player pools, good games, traffic, there in it for money. The fish will play regardless, just the big grinders won't be around because they will either

A. Play live
B. Leave the Country

It won't be possible to load 12+ 50nl tables on a site with no traffic.
 
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All these states think they are gonna be raking in pokerstars money when they couldn't be more wrong. If NJ goes live with a intrastate online poker site I doubt they even see 1/2 the traffic ACR gets. You'll be lucky to single table your favorite stakes. Only real option for anyone that wants to grind till the cows come home is gonna be mexico, canada, Thailand,etc.
 
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People will not go to Nevada to play OLP games.
 
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I dont know how the chips will eventually fall but I do know that party poker is the sight that about a 1/3 of the B&M casinos have already contracted with & will be accessing, and I do know that PokerStars has a building in Vegas with over 2 hundred employees not to mention just purchasing a B&M in AC. So Im thinking they know something we don't.

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I dont know how the chips will eventually fall but I do know that Party Poker is the sight that about a 1/3 of the B&M casinos have already contracted with & will be accessing, and I do know that PokerStars has a building in Vegas with over 2 hundred employees not to mention just purchasing a B&M in AC. So Im thinking they know something we don't.

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Thats interesting, and i guess a really good sign for NJ and nevada online players.I hope it eventually will spread for the rest of us,but that probable wont happen anytime soon. I wonder if those states will have enough traffic to make their online site popular?Guess only time will tell.
 
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