I've been looking at Sportsbetting.ag where I have freeroll winnings from the CC games but until I can sort out deposit and withdrawal options I won't bet there, I have to roll over a $50 US deposit once in their sportsbook to be able to withdraw my FR winnings.

They are not making it easy, they have options for me to deposit but none to withdraw apart from crapto currencies, I am still in discussions with them about it.

Thanks for that info on the parlay bets.

Did you see the PM I sent you.

Originally Posted by Zorba

I've been looking at Sportsbetting.ag where I have freeroll winnings from the CC games but until I can sort out deposit and withdrawal options I won't bet there, I have to roll over a $50 US deposit once in their sportsbook to be able to withdraw my FR winnings.

They are not making it easy, they have options for me to deposit but none to withdraw apart from crapto currencies, I am still in discussions with them about it.

Thanks for that info on the parlay bets.

Did you see the PM I sent you.

Got the PM now, just replied. Sorry I missed it!


Yeah having to turn over a certain number of times (usually at minimum odds too) is pretty standard so I wouldn't be too worried about that, but the withdrawl options sound awful.


You're an Aussie though, you've got access to a boatload of legit onshore betting sites that are super easy to deposit and withdraw from :P Pretty much all of them will give you some kind of first deposit bonus too.

Originally Posted by OzExorcist

Got the PM now, just replied. Sorry I missed it!


Yeah having to turn over a certain number of times (usually at minimum odds too) is pretty standard so I wouldn't be too worried about that, but the withdrawl options sound awful.


You're an Aussie though, you've got access to a boatload of legit onshore betting sites that are super easy to deposit and withdraw from :P Pretty much all of them will give you some kind of first deposit bonus too.

I'm cashed up there from the freerolls, that's the only reason for SB.


Just read the PM reply, thanks Sir.

So I've got a decent roll at SB and decided to maybe withdraw some. I imagine others have tried, and in my case the whole roll started via Freerolls.

I talked to CS and he lead me to the right place;
https://www.sportsbetting.ag/rules#payout-rules
See item #12.


I expected to have to deposit, so no shock there, nor with the requirement to roll it over.

Now to figure out how to reduce the ugly fees I show when thinking about using Bitcoin.

I will not play there. It is too hard to withdraw.

Originally Posted by freestocks

I will not play there. It is too hard to withdraw.

Why is it difficult? These are classical rules, right?

No.

ACR will send me a check without fees or a deposit.

Originally Posted by Zorba

I've been looking at Sportsbetting.ag where I have freeroll winnings from the CC games but until I can sort out deposit and withdrawal options I won't bet there, I have to roll over a $50 US deposit once in their sportsbook to be able to withdraw my FR winnings.

They are not making it easy, they have options for me to deposit but none to withdraw apart from crapto currencies, I am still in discussions with them about it.

Thanks for that info on the parlay bets.

Did you see the PM I sent you.

Hi Nick
I also had a lot of trouble to withdraw the gains in the SB .... in reality it was not even a withdrawal .... it leaves one problem for another .... I removed from the SB for Neteller that had withdrawal card here in Brazil and at one time before canceled the cards to Brazil ..... and I had recently paid for the Neteller and Skrill cards, when they canceled the cards .... they gave me a 50us damage, I did not get to use the cards at least once .... the withdrawal by the Brazilian banks is the only option now, the withdrawals are taxed with absurd rates .... I never deposited nor 1us, all the money I won was with freerolls here in the CC, then I multiplied ... I remember the difficulty that you had to send me my first gain (to receive out of the room), because paypal here can not receive
$ US only local money ... but it was with this money that came from the skrill that I started to make deposits in the rooms .... my theory of getting some money in poker from scratch is almost working .... when I get the money.

Thanks a lot to CardsChat for every opportunity ....
without you my theory would never be possible to become a reality ....

Originally Posted by cwdignus

Hi Nick
I also had a lot of trouble to withdraw the gains in the SB .... in reality it was not even a withdrawal .... it leaves one problem for another .... I removed from the SB for Neteller that had withdrawal card here in Brazil and at one time before canceled the cards to Brazil ..... and I had recently paid for the Neteller and Skrill cards, when they canceled the cards .... they gave me a 50us damage, I did not get to use the cards at least once .... the withdrawal by the Brazilian banks is the only option now, the withdrawals are taxed with absurd rates .... I never deposited nor 1us, all the money I won was with freerolls here in the CC, then I multiplied ... I remember the difficulty that you had to send me my first gain (to receive out of the room), because paypal here can not receive
$ US only local money ... but it was with this money that came from the skrill that I started to make deposits in the rooms .... my theory of getting some money in poker from scratch is almost working .... when I get the money.

Thanks a lot to CardsChat for every opportunity ....
without you my theory would never be possible to become a reality ....

After 17 emails they finally sent me a phone no and asked me to call them but I am hesitant as it is not a toll free phone No and am not sure how long I will be kept waiting on hold or how long the phone call might last, it may cost me a lot of money for the phone call and in the end the winnings may be lost due to the cost of the call.


I will send email No 18 and ask if they have a toll free phone No.

While talking to the CS rep at SB, I asked if that $50 had to be used to gamble on games. His reply suggested I could do that 'rollover' at the poker tables. For me this is a easy thing, I play lots of PLO ring games there.

I have had no problems using bit.

i never get my withdraw

Originally Posted by Zorba

After 17 emails they finally sent me a phone no and asked me to call them but I am hesitant as it is not a toll free phone No and am not sure how long I will be kept waiting on hold or how long the phone call might last, it may cost me a lot of money for the phone call and in the end the winnings may be lost due to the cost of the call.


I will send email No 18 and ask if they have a toll free phone No.

I managed using chat online ... they do everything for you not to effect the withdraw .... very costly .... have more patience than in poker , gl

Originally Posted by PokerNuts01

Why is it difficult? These are classical rules, right?

it's not so hard, the problem could be the method for withdrawal.
about freeroll winnings i spend part of what i have won. the best withdrawal methods are Bitcoin and Neteller, if you can't withdraw with any of both then can be hard to do it.

The hard part for me was setting up the Bitcoin wallet. Still not sure I've got it done right.

I have gone through all options that they have offered me after first telling me months ago when I first inquired about withdrawal options that Skrill was available to me and then when I tried to use Skrill they said that it is not available in my country.

Skrill is available to me, SB just won't allow me to use it.

They never mentioned Netteller which I also have, I think that will also be denied to me.

I sent an email asking them if they have a toll free No. Just waiting for a reply.

They don't have Neteller only Skrill.

Best option to use to withdraw is Bitcoin or if any of p2p transfers like Moneygram WU or Ria available to you.

The $50 rollover was not true for me. I was told by countless reps on both BOP and SB that I have to that it is $50 but I have made minimum deposits and rolled in order to withdraw. I did $10 via Neteller on BOP and was able to request payout immediately after the did $10 rollover which I did via Blackjack on Casino. On SB there was no Neteller only Skrill and my country is banned from Skrill so I did $25 via Mastercard rolled it via Blackjack and was able to request payout a week and half after. They make you wait 7 working days and send copy of card when ever you deposit via a card.

I found that I can reach them easily on their website via chat. What I do is I go their website do not log in and go to chat and I can speak to someone almost instantly. I give them my account number and info only after connecting to an agent.

Originally Posted by joeisi

They don't have Neteller only Skrill.

Best option to use to withdraw is Bitcoin or if any of p2p transfers like Moneygram WU or Ria available to you.

The $50 rollover was not true for me. I was told by countless reps on both BOP and SB that I have to that it is $50 but I have made minimum deposits and rolled in order to withdraw. I did $10 via Neteller on BOP and was able to request payout immediately after the did $10 rollover which I did via Blackjack on Casino. On SB there was no Neteller only Skrill and my country is banned from Skrill so I did $25 via Mastercard rolled it via Blackjack and was able to request payout a week and half after. They make you wait 7 working days and send copy of card when ever you deposit via a card.

I found that I can reach them easily on their website via chat. What I do is I go their website do not log in and go to chat and I can speak to someone almost instantly. I give them my account number and info only after connecting to an agent.

I assume you got your withdrawal sent with bitcoin.


They won't do withdrawals to me via WU or MG, they say Skrill is not available to my country, no one told Skrill though. I don't want or have a use for crapto currencies.


The live chat option just gave me headaches and the conversations just went round and round in circles with the result always being, sorry that option is not available for withdrawal and the pitch to use bitcoin kept starting, I got sick of that and went the email route and asked them not to suggest bitcoin or other similar methods anymore.

My case was escalated to management and I got an email from a manager telling me I need to deposit to make a withdrawal, LDO, I replied informing them that it was withdrawals that were the problem and why it was escalated to a manager, the managers reply was Oh, Sorry, check out what options there are in the software.

I am now waiting for a reply to the email I sent after that genius reply that the manager sent me.

Originally Posted by Zorba

My case was escalated to management and I got an email from a manager telling me I need to deposit to make a withdrawal, LDO, I replied informing them that it was withdrawals that were the problem and why it was escalated to a manager, the managers reply was Oh, Sorry, check out what options there are in the software.

I am now waiting for a reply to the email I sent after that genius reply that the manager sent me.

For about 20 years I worked successfully in areas like this (private consumer protection) mostly stateside here in the US, but with equal results when I work abroad. It’s kind of comical, like gambling and winning isn’t hard enough, now you can’t walk out of the casino with the cash, or in their case electronically in some fashion from them to you. Without the whole preamble we’re all well aware of it and its frustrations it reminds me of one of those old cartoons on a grainy screen with a guy trying to leave a beautiful casino with his cash and it starts to take the shape of a fiery hell.

On a broad scale all this bs needs to come to an end for all these online companies, us and players of the like, time is money, distractions are money and that is another discussion to create the same in person casino experience continuity of what should be online and not make the players feel like suckers at each and every turn away from the tables.

Tell them respectfully you would like to have a discussion with their general counsel, maybe for their size whomever their lawyer is. Tell them you don’t represent a bunch of people, just you for this issue, but it needs to happen now. If they say they won’t do it, say no problem I will contact the Panamanian Attorney General’s office in 24 hours if this is not resolved and seek assistance in reaching out to your attorneys so we can get it resolved that way. Problem for them is if they don’t reply a small country’s AG starts getting involved, they are going to have their (AG) hand firmly in their (SB) pocket and be on their radar.

I spent 2 years conducting business in Costa Rica, Panama, Belize, and in these Central America countries it is all about the - you’re making us work pay us. It’s not corruption they just don’t have the infrastructure or funding to handle this stuff and SB knows it.

The last step, pm me or green light me. I do this all the time, I'm nearly 100% successful without "burning down bridges", or going scorched earth, but it is tactical and I do it always for no money, no vested interest, just for the hopeful good results that benefit friends and associates.

Sry,your going thru this,Zorba. Perhaps we should make a big bet and really stick them with a bill? now,that would be the best revenge!lol,,,,hmmm

Latest email from SB is Funny.

I think it is a mistake but apparently Crypto is not out of reach for me.


That means that I have no means of withdrawal, funny that it came just after I made a deposit like they wanted and I have ot roll it over to withdraw.


It's lucky I have a good sense of humour, we don't need me to start a rigged thread.


This must be the creator smiting me.

A friend of mine had lots of headaches withdrawing from Sportsbook . It took 3 months even when there were no issues about rollover . To top off the troubles his California credit union put a 6 week hold on the check 'cause it was from a Canadian bank ! That transfer can be done + verified electronically almost instantly nowadays . I figure the credit union does this kind of thing to scores of people , and they get to sit on the interest .More unethical business maneuvers .

I'm cashed up there from the freerolls, that's the only reason for SB.

I will not play there. It is too hard to withdraw.

Originally Posted by aaak168

I will not play there. It is too hard to withdraw.

Here's how I'm doing it;


I withdrew from WPN via Bitcoin, then deposited at SB with those Bitcoins, just to get access to withdrawal. I am in no particular rush.
There is a play through requirement, but I'll do that in stride, and be good to go by the end of this month.


Again, I'm in no rush.

Hey guys. Last Friday I won $12 on the freeroll. I played some mtts and windfall games. Now I have $100 and want to cash out. Do I have to deposit $50, do a rollover of $50 in sports (not in poker) and ask for withdrawal?

meagain00

Originally Posted by meagain00

Hey guys. Last Friday I won $12 on the freeroll. I played some mtts and windfall games. Now I have $100 and want to cash out. Do I have to deposit $50, do a rollover of $50 in sports (not in poker) and ask for withdrawal?

meagain00

Contact them by live chat, I was given 2 different amounts that I would have to rollover and others have said that rollover is not just limited to the sportsbook.

You may only have to rollover $25 and poker may be included.

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So I have to deposit $25 (even with 10+ on my bank)?

meagain00

Originally Posted by meagain00

So I have to deposit $25 (even with 10+ on my bank)?

meagain00

I have over $400 in my account and still had to deposit, contact Live Chat and find out from them how much you need to deposit and what rollover conditions that YOU may have to complete, also keep copies of your chat with them, like I said they gave me 2 different amounts during my exchange of emails and live chats.

Originally Posted by Zorba

Latest email from SB is Funny.

I think it is a mistake but apparently Crypto is not out of reach for me.


That means that I have no means of withdrawal, funny that it came just after I made a deposit like they wanted and I have ot roll it over to withdraw.


It's lucky I have a good sense of humour, we don't need me to start a rigged thread.


This must be the creator smiting me.

This is the email.


Am I missing something.


This is Chase from Player Services,
I hope this e-mail finds you well.

This e-mail is regarding your depositing concern.

Please be informed that as one of our managers mentioned it seems to be that crypto currency is not a option available to withdrawal. Please check on your cashier tab to see what option is available on your area.

Score more with Bitcoin and take advantage of hassle free deposits, faster withdrawals and zero transaction fees. Click here for details.
If you have any other questions or require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best Regards,

Chase
Player Services Department

SB allowed me to withdrawl via crypto had no problem took a cpl days but there was no fees

Funny email z, do they have P2P at SB?

Originally Posted by dj11

Funny email z, do they have P2P at SB?

Not that I have seen anywhere dj, as I said I do think this email is a mistake.

I have two options, lose it to a friend that will send it to me on Paypal or use a friends crypto currency account to withdraw and he will send on Paypal.

I'm hesitant on the 2nd one as it may affect that friend, the first option can be done over time to prevent some suspicion from the site. The HU games I play there are almost always against the same 3 players due to the regular time that I play there.

😉

It difficult to withdraw redeem money in poker, they make it difficult not to redeem and use in the rooms to lost.

Originally Posted by Zorba

Not that I have seen anywhere dj, as I said I do think this email is a mistake.

I have two options, lose it to a friend that will send it to me on Paypal or use a friends crypto currency account to withdraw and he will send on Paypal.

I'm hesitant on the 2nd one as it may affect that friend, the first option can be done over time to prevent some suspicion from the site. The HU games I play there are almost always against the same 3 players due to the regular time that I play there.

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Option 2 was successful when I was able to access the cashier using the web browser client, they wanted me to give them the crypto address and they would manually submit my withdrawal, I submitted the crypto withdrawal request via the web client and was paid fast then my access to the web client was removed from both SB and BOL....lol, they can keep the $1.98 I have on BOL.

I have played about 5 different online sites and found out that transferring a bonus from sports betting or casino is very difficult especially when poker bonus is not available at that time but u still want bonus for your money u deposit .. but the roll over is a joke !! If u get a 30$ bonus because u deposited 30$ sometimes u have to bet and keep betting up to 1500$ before u can even transfer to poker that’s crazy especially if u only play poker lol ..