Your thoughts and feelings on Internet poker?

TheChaosPath

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This may be a cliche topic (and if so I apologize) but I'm curious if others feel as I do. I had gotten swept up into the poker thing a few years ago, only after a few months of good play at a friends house I decided to do what everyone else had been doing. Hopping on the internet poker bandwagon.

...I can't stand it. It completely shifts the feel of the game, eliminates any possibility of a real read on your opponents, and I swear as god as my witness you will NEVER see that many bad beats on a real poker table. (Not complaining of only the ones I've received but all the ones I would see in a single game.) My bank roll fluctuated like crazy going on nothing but spurts. Sometimes I would keep laying the bad beats (not my fault they like my pocket Js over my opponents Ks) for a splurge of money or get absolutely raped with bad beats (such as the one above). Does anyone else get the feeling that it's not even close to being completely randomized?

Anyhow since then I've hopped off (after losing my 50 dollars) and decided it wasn't my thing. I've done fairly well at 1$-2$ cash games at the casino ever since... but nothing was darker for more than when I played internet poker.

Thoughts? Opinons?
 
dj11

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From doing well at your friends house to internet poker is about like comparing apples to oranges.

Real poker and internet poker are two sides of the same chip. If you are a good, or great reader of people, live is your avenue. Expecially if you can prevent good reads on yourself. Internet poker is different in that you get no physical reads, and the betting pattern reads are obscure at best. However, the fundamentals of the game remain the same. In this case the fundamentals of the game include the most advanced moves short of reading a pulsing cartoid, heavy breathing, or sweat dripping down a brow.

Still, if you truely have the bug, then internet poker offers all those things which will satisfy the itch. Reads can be made in whether a player is a total noob, or has a clue, and often, how many clues a player has.

It does take some getting used to. Did for me anyway.
 
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gee I wanted to thank you, now I dont feel so alone. On the good side of the news bodog hands seem to hold up pretty well, came in second place out of 1200, I can say one thing for sure stay the hell away from poker stars, total rip off. I think what your trying to say is that the hands on online poker just dont hold up like they do in real life, so you are seeing what alot of know for a fact, its rigged big time and all of poker players will never get a fair shake until the Nevada gaming commission steps in and regulates it, its about as simple as that. Anyone that tells you different is full of shit point blank.
 
tosborn

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Search through the forum. There are a number of posts that are similar to yours. I think I can speak for the rest of the forum when I say "We Agree". All poker sites Are Rigged. That's why we continue to trow our money away.

You need to learn a new strategy. Bottom pair is more profitable than AA. You will always hit your flush/straight draw. Find me at the tables some time and I'll teach you how to play this style of poker.
 
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^^^^^^

What he said. Definitely RIGGED. Everything is RIGGED. Today i got a flat tire. I think the Missouri Department of Transportation rigged the highway. A co-worker got a promotion over me too, totally effin rigged.

I think my life is rigged.
 
titans4ever

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There are two big differences:

1) live there is not poker tracker for people who have ADD and can't concentrate for more than 25 seconds. It removes all brain power and concentration skills from the game. You don't have to even watch the table to know who is in the hand and their general tendencies. Anyone for $60-$100 dollars can equip their computer to track every hand you play and you opponents. You no longer have to remember a single thing. No talent required, just the money.

2) there are NO tells with online except betting patterns. Good internet players bet close to the same if they are bluffing or have the nuts so even that is marginal at best. How long it takes them to call or raise can be anything from your connection speed to his.

You take out the brain with poker tracker and remove reads with staring a pictured avatar and the games are not close to the same. It is like saying if you are good at Madden then you can play in the NFL. The rules are the same but the game is not. There are live players who SUCK with on-line poker and a bunch of good on-line players who will get destroyed in a live poker room.

I am not saying one is better than the other or you are a donkey if you can only play on-line or live. I am just saying there is a big differnece and certain skills need for on-line and different ones for live. I do very well live and only about even on-line but it gives me my poker fixes when I need them.
 
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jolubman

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I like on-line poker more. You get to play many more hands and there is less bs to put up with. Plus you always have enough opponents.

On the other hand, I was never good at reading people.
 
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RIGGED! Obviously rigged, and not just PS(rigged)) but FT,UB, .com,Abolute_____________(fill in the blank).

If you think your hands hold up better on Bodog by all means play there. At this precise moment, there are 91thou and some players getting TOTALLY ripped off at PS(rigged) In fact, that's why they all play there. They are ALL online forum conspiracy inestigators. Every one of 'em!
 
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Thoughts

I have my ups & downs w/ online poker as w/ everything in life pretty much. I think if you were on the opposite side of the spectrum & you were completely winning instead of completely losing @ online poker then your thoughts would be "online poker isn't rigged". If you ever go back to playing online again & if you go on a winning streak & the bad beats don't happen to you anymore for awhile then come back here & change your thoughts lol.
 
HartAttack3

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Yep...Online poker is totally rigged, i mean it makes sense since we are playing against the house and all right guys? Wait, we arent?....you mean I dont have to beat the dealer and it doesnt matter who wins because they make money anyway? ya know what, forget I said anything.....
 
MrDaMan

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LOL If you think online poker is rigged, that there are incredible bad beats that won't happen live ... then you haven't played a live 3/6 limit table in a popular casino.

Poker isn't just a game of cards it's a game of people, and people are individual as snowflakes are not identical. The human quotient adds a quixotic spice to the game of poker that makes the game what it is.

Money is one of those relative things in life, some are born with a silver spoon, others are born dirt poor. One mans trash is another mans riches. As a key element in poker, the wager is highly dependant upon the human being making it, calling it or raising it.

When a poor person who's just won the lottery, or a rich person who's just acquired a windfall profit enters a poker game they tend to be loose with their bankroll. On the other hand when the poor person is wagering his last dollar or the rich guy has suffered a downturn in his finances they tend to be tighter with their bankroll.

Whether it's online or offline human nature is basically the same except for different nuances that can be logically discerned. For example we use chips instead of money in a poker game because chips are psychologically easier to shove around. A 40 dollar stack of chips may represent a dinner and a movie, but two 20 dollar bills remind us how hard work is to attain them. It’s easier to shove chips than bills when chasing that outside straight or flush draw.

In live casinos you rarely see a game lower than 1/2 no limit or 3/6 limit. Online you can see the casinos spread games from play money free rolls and 1/2 cent, nickel/dime and up from there. Add the relativity of the human quotient and online poker can be quite volatile.

In a live casino 3/6 game there are a lot of calling stations who have just re-mortgaged their house or received their income tax check, it’s often a luck fest that resembles online low limit poker. A good thing for experienced players who can read opponents and play position.

Online it’s like that everyday in the low limit/no limit games. Not only are the chips (your hard earned 20 dollar bills) electronic representations but they are way easy to shove around with just one click of the call or raise button. In a live casino you’re a lot closer to that 20 dollar bill it means more to you, online its off somewhere far away and if you want it back you’ll have to wait. If you’re playing a 25/50 cent no limit game you’re a lot more likely to chase flushes and straights.

Bad beats are common both live and online, your going to see more online however due to the fact that there are a lot more low level limit/no limit games spread and you’re seeing more hands online than a dealer can deal live. Add the factor of the ease of the click of the mouse call button and the waiting period for access to your money and that bad beat factor rises exponentially. It’s easier to tilt online.

Know this it is a real factor, it is logical and reasonable knowing what we know about the quixotic nature of human beings. That being said, I enjoy both online and live poker they both have their positives and negatives. Live I get to meet people and enjoy or despise their company depending on how my session is going.

Online I find a lot of value that you can’t get in a live casino, tournaments starting every 15 minutes; a one-dollar buy-in can get you 300 dollars more or less at a final table. Free rolls and satellites that can land you in a tournament with a huge prize pool.

It is what it is, I enjoy online poker … to each their own.
 
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i was wondering is there as much differnece in live to online poker wt u lot rekon i rekon online more enjoyable
 
DeadoneD1

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You need to learn a new strategy. Bottom pair is more profitable than AA. You will always hit your flush/straight draw. Find me at the tables some time and I'll teach you how to play this style of poker.

:withstupi You Guys Really Crack me Up!!!!!!!!


+1 rep for my man tosborn...great post man!



My 2 cents..

Everything is rigged from the hanging chad president to

the arsenic in the pet food..

CIA invented crack to keep the poor poorer

JFK shot Marilyn.....oh crap

I said way too much......

Nevermind
 
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It is what it is, play some poker and have fun!
 
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My thought on this topic is, All the poker sites have bad beats, some more than others but the one thing I look at is where else can you have fun for as little as $1 or less? I work hard 4 my money and I dont party, so I figure that poker online is a cheep way 4 fun.
 
tomcat529

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illegal, immoral internet poker!!

hate to take the food out of the mouths of the kids I dont have, but after a long day at work, no live game possible, I can play a $5 dollar tourney and either kill a few hours or make a few hundred bucks!!some folks with bankrolls can do well, but I like to have fun for low stakes and maybe break even now and then. having the right to CHOOSE is the important thing...peace
 
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I think the new book I just finished "What no one else is saying about online poker" explains everything you guys are saying. I also agree with the author that money can be won playing online poker. If your first a good poker player, and try the right games, and have the right bankroll that would let you give it a fair shot for six months up to a year you may have a chance. Have a plan and stick to it. When the time comes for evaluation you either hold them or fold them, and move on. But you really have to understand the two different games being played when comparing live to online. There are professional collusion teams of 8 and more members all communicating via there own server, all watching the same cash game coming and going from the same table without leaving a trace. And if cheating is nothing to worry about when playing online, why can't I bring my laptop with a poker bot program in it to a live poker game????????????????
 
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I just love this kind of thread...Listen to this it might kind of make since. I just thought of this. Seriously..I did. I'm going through the process of becoming a prop player getting 130% of my rake I contribute.(helping fill tables to keep people at the table or starting tables for a poker site while playing with my own money)

Hhhhmmm...a poker site could have fictitious players in the computer system at various tables that have an advantage with knowledge of cards on the table at that particular time. Management could be playing those hands at given times adding to the house's income. It seriously could be done without regulation in place. I think bigger ones would have too much to lose. But smaller ones on a network. Hmm...what do you think? I just thought of this so haven't had time to think it through more.

I hope I didn't just give ammo to the maladjusted.


If it makes you go hmmmm....give this newcomer to this site some rep
 
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