What is a better starting hand , A 8 suited or a pair of 77??

It will depend on the situation, but generally I'd rather have 77. With 77 you have paid at worst and can hit a set. With A8 if you get an 8 on the board well that's not really much better than the pair of 7s. So to be materially better than the 77 you need a A or flush on the board, which you're not going to get the majority of the time

Originally Posted by amxvulcan

What is a better starting hand , A 8 suited or a pair of 77??

77 with the probability of 777 which is i guess higher then the probability of getting a flush

Originally Posted by amxvulcan

What is a better starting hand , A 8 suited or a pair of 77??

Both hand and not the best one for starting, I would choose A8 since A plays in many cases (the kicker may be weak, but there is a chance for a flush) and pair 7 only if there are no other high cards starting from 8, since it is not always possible to collect three 7

Originally Posted by amxvulcan

What is a better starting hand , A 8 suited or a pair of 77??

77s have slightly better equity preflop vs A8s(around 54% to 46%) but it depends a lot on what games you play, the position and the number of blinds you have(so many times it's better to have an A blocker than a small pair...).

GLGL all at the tables!

It depends on your position, chip stack and amount of action in front of you.

I'd prefer the out with the A

I would rather hold the 77, especially with a nice stack and position. A8 can be scared off top pair because of its bad kicker. Even when it catches a flush, getting money in the pot can be difficult.

When the third seven flops, it is more hidden than three to a flush.

77 is better percentage wise pre flop, and plays better post flop.

Em statistically both hands have around 50:50 chances. I will choose the pair of sevens, because is winning before the flop and it is not necessary to catch something and to win the hand after that, while with A8 suited you will need something.

Originally Posted by amxvulcan

What is a better starting hand , A 8 suited or a pair of 77??

Thank U 4 Posting

What matters is how good you are at playing post flop and how do your Villains play post flop.

If you are weak post flop A8s is the better hand to have as you are going to know when you make the nuts with it more often than with 77.

If you make a set with 77 on a K72 board after calling a raise preflop you do not know you have the nuts KK is possible if the turn brings A Q J again you do not know you have the nuts- same on river.

Many Villains know not to stack off with only a pair when someone is not aggressive preflop but turns aggressive post flop for fear of a set.

However many V have trouble getting away from flushes and will stack off.

Hope this helps

77 is slightly better hand statistically, and its easier to fold if the board goes wet. If u flop an A with A8 hand, many times u will pay to better A...

You can find the odds of pocket cards on the internet easily. In my research in under 5 players table, 77 is tied or better than A8. But in over 5 players table A8 is better. But as you know the odds are not everything. You should consider your position and styles of opponents. And the odds is usually for the case you get river card. So if you just limped in or you're in other vary situations, you need to take different strategy by the atmosphere around you.

77 , A 8 can usually get you in trouble if someone has a higher ace

A 8 SS... But it isnt a hand to bet all in or raise too much teh bet

I prefer 77 but both are average hands that need to improve to win a big pot.

Incorrect question. Without considering your position at the table, stack depth, tournament stage and many nuances, it is very difficult to make the right decision. For example, in early position, both hands are bad, and in late position against one opponent, both hands are great for all-in. Although in this case it is necessary to take into account the ratio of the stacks, as well as the individual characteristics of the villain's game.

Originally Posted by Daen27

Both hand and not the best one for starting, I would choose A8 since A plays in many cases (the kicker may be weak, but there is a chance for a flush) and pair 7 only if there are no other high cards starting from 8, since it is not always possible to collect three 7

Unfortunately I have to disappoint you. The odss calculator gives 53.4% versus 46.3% in favor of 77. You should pay more attention to the mathematics of poker. Good luck

all depends on situation and your position but a pair is a sure thing

Maybe 77 is beter but you need to hit a third card wifh 7 other the changes are big you lose that hand. My favority hand is k 6 shuted.My lucky numbers. The best is AA in your hand evry round

Hello. I would not start with either unless I am the button or cutoff.

Originally Posted by amxvulcan

What is a better starting hand , A 8 suited or a pair of 77??

Equilab says:

Equity Win Tie
MP2 46.28% 46.08% 0.20% { A8s }
MP3 53.72% 53.52% 0.20% { 7h7c }

The pocket sevens is a significantly better hand. The problems with (A8-s) are that a pair of aces will have a weak kicker. If an eight comes, even if it's a top pair, that puts straight draws on board, and that eight isn't likely to stay a top pair for very long. Flopping a flush draw will give you the nut flush draw, but it's not guaranteed to get there. Sevens also have problems: there is little room for improvement, a pair of sevens is unlikely to be an overpair, and it doesn't really block anything.

An (A8-s) blocks value hands like (AA) and AT+, so that opens up the possibility for running bluffs when it is less likely for your opponent to hold one of the above value hands. You would still like to see everyone fold when you open with either hand.

depends on your position, how much action you see preflop, and how well the cards drop.

All depends on the game situation. A8 easily can be outkicked. 77 just waiting for a 7 on the flop. If not very easy to fold.

Originally Posted by amxvulcan

What is a better starting hand , A 8 suited or a pair of 77??

the answer is going all in pre short stacked id like the ace 8 suited but if i was 30+ big blinds and had to call a short stack i would like the 7's. But i think all around 7's is the stronger starting hand and ace 8 suited is more of a looser hand in my opinion for starting.

Nice question. I think it depends on your stack size, position, trny or ring-game, and how many other players get involved. Two overs can really dominate a small pair on the flop since there are more cards in the deck that can beat 7's. Plus an A8std has more outs than 7's. If I'm short-stacked I'd shove w/7's but just raise w/A8std; just the opposite if I'm 30+ BB's.

Both hands are speculative hands. You want to hit the flush with A8s. At 77 you want to hit three of a kind. 77 I would also play in middle position while I would only play A8s in late position. If I called with A8s and the flop brings an ace with no chance of the flush it can quickly become a headache hand. If I am in late position I can better assess whether someone else has an ace too. I can also control the pot better. You don't take such a big risk when you play A8s in position. Against a raise I would throw away A8s, while with 77 I would still call a raise. The reason is simple. Hitting three of a kind is far more likely than hitting the flush. In addition, you are often dominated when you play A8s against a raise. Often your opponent has an ace with a better kicker. 77 is easier to play. Either you hit three of a kind or you can throw the hand away. Both hands can develop into great hands. Overall, I would play 77 more often than A8s because with 77 I hit three of a kind more often than with A8s the flush.

Originally Posted by amxvulcan

What is a better starting hand , A 8 suited or a pair of 77??

I prefer to play a pair of 77. I pay to see the Flop

Although the 77 has 53.42% win, depending on the situation I still prefer the A8s

I would choose starting hand 77. For several reasons:
1. It still has a 53% to 47% advantage preflop.
2. This is a ready hand, and in order for A8 to catch a pair with a probability of 47%, you need as many as all 5 cards, while with 77 you can safely bet with almost any flop.
Therefore, I prefer 77, plus A8s are not connectors and this almost eliminates straight, although their suited gives a high probability of a flush. 89 suited even to me seems to be preferable in this situation against 77 than A8 suited.

Acho que depende mto da situação do torneio, dos vilões, pilhas ...
Mas eu prefiro 77, pq vc dificilmente vai cometer erros, no máximo perder para um cooler.

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I think there both weak starting hands but I like the A-8

For me, 77 is better to start with.
If I catch my set with a pair I could win a great pot, especially when the board is safe and someone else get a pair, two pares or anything else. Sometimes this hand can win by itself at the showdown (when I don't get anything good on the board). Another good thing is, I can easily fold it when I see some action and I have nothing to play on the flop and there is no need to go further. So I don't lose much in those cases.
There are some problems with playing A8s. Your main change for winning is catching a flush but it's a miserable chance. Well, cathing a set with 77 is miserable as well, I would say, but when you get a flush it's more obvious for other players that you have this. In some cases, all you get is just a few folds, not a big pot, so sometimes it's a bit hard to win much. But what you should be scared about is that you can lose much with your A8s when you don't get a flush and just got a pair of A's because of your weak kicker (when someone else get AK, AQ or something like that).
Most of time I would raise with A8s only from late positions like BTN, CO to steal the blinds.

According to the odds chart here on Cardchat, a 7/7 wins 67% of the time while an A/8 suited wins 63% of the time.

Both starting hands should be played pre-flop.

https://www.cardschat.com/poker-starting-hands.php

cash or tournament? I'd rather have 77 in both cash games and in tournaments as it's a slight favorite versus A8s

It depends on number of BB, position and number of players in the table.
I would say that both are quite weak in general but to take one, I stay with 77.

Much rather have 77

Hello. I bet on A8s. This hand appeals to me more. With pocket 77s in hand, you can hardly count on gain. The emphasis will have to be placed on the board and the opponent's preflop actions. With an ace you can count on an overpair, although with an eight we will often be behind the opponent. Also suited cards give a good chance of making a flush. So sevens are decently inferior to A8s.

Of course, I will choose 77, because even preflop all-in they have a probability of winning against A8s about 53/47. And in order to catch a pair for A8s with a probability of 50%, all 5 cards on the table are needed, and with 77, teyu already has a ready-made combination on hand. A8s is generally considered an unplayable hand.

My friend, although 77 have a slight advantage over A8s, I prefer to have the A8s, because it is a blockade and have conditions to play with equity the Post flop. Depending on the situation the 77 becomes weak if you have 2 more people involved in the flop, unless you can get nuts.

Originally Posted by amxvulcan

What is a better starting hand , A 8 suited or a pair of 77??

77 but i wont go all with it