Bots?

[sidenotch]

EVEN WORSE AT ACR! Horrible, UNFAIR deal outs!

Here is what I noticed online vs in person play .. you can't push someone off a pot when they think a flush or a straight will come off to them. Happens day in and out to me . So have to factor that in to every call you make. People like that keep doing it because it does pay off when you play online, seems like there is a lot of flushes and straights there more so than in person. I don't know. what does everyone think?

It's CRAZY to watch the same person playin BS cards and getting the winning hands. Just happened to me AGAIN at ACR. In a tourney where a guy was playing "whatever" cards. He was big stacker but not by a whole lot, and he kept on making these STUUUUPID PRE FLOP GUESSER BETS! and raising me off of blinds and catching what seemed to be about 80% of the flops no matter what cards he played! There is no other explanation than the site is a RIGGED UP MESS! A site is only as good as the people who PRE PROGRAM IT>>>PERIOD! So, this guy was in "good positions" to play weak cards?...NOPE! Did he win about every hand with an ace that he played?>>>YEP! Did I get beat EVERY time I tired to play an ace...even when I was being smart and playing the ace in good spots and such>>>YEPPER!!>>>Got beat by that donk about three different times when I had the WAYYY better cards, and he finally took me out...and yep, by playing a freakin 5 7 off suited against my A K suited...he caught a 7 on river...UMMM< yes, no ace , OR king flopped for me! If he had been playin those cards...EITHER of those cards, the ace or king, HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN a match at flop!....just like he was doing about 80%+ of the time. And, this isn't an isolated incident, this stuff is happening at every level of play I watch and play in at ACR. How can it NOT BE RIGGED UP?!!, or manipulated? There's no way those types of things should be happening on the basis of the percentages I have mentioned...it's just not possible!!>>>>UNLESS!!!>>>>Unless there's "something else" goin on...which by now, anyone who plays at ACR should realize it's a rigged up mess of site!

 

[sidenotch]

when you mention 44 cards remaining...

I can see your point...to a certain extent...BUT, after you watch it happen over and over again at a site, a person tends to think of the "other" variances involved, such as Bots, Paid Reps, filler seats, HOT SEATS and the dreaded "table moderator", who we ALL KNOW can manipulate the river deal out...hence the "lag" at ACR before the river card is dealt out. The "pre" programming is figuring out who to give the winner to. Watching the same person win hands playing bs cards isn't about MY emotions, nor MY luck...it's about "something else" involved, such as "rigged up", poorly programmed sites. I leave you with my favorite quote.
" a site is only as good as the people who are pre programming it!"

--Sidenotch--

When you mention 44 cards remaining as percentage basis...there's an exact chance for every card to be flopped, you're pretty much talking head to head play, or a three way table? How are there 44 cards "remaining"...Oh, I forget, ACR has about 10 aces in their decks, so there's the variance Let's just face it,

" a site is only as good as the people who are PRE programming it" --SIDENOTCH--

 

[jbosker84]

Just so you know....my confidence is fine right now as I NEVER pushed in without the better hand pre-flop or post flop. What does that have to do with my confindence? If it was my play, I am the first to admit when I suck. And who said that it's not abnormal to lose to 20 suckouts in a row? Have you ever flipped a coin and been right 20 times in a row? Man, I need to get you to my casino on the roullette wheel and bet on black 20 straight times and win! And to my question, for those of you defending these sites. Has anyone come up with an exact address for BetOnline? If they are legit, they do have a corporate office,right? Someone please restore my faith in online poker? They make you send them copies of a utility bill to confirm your address....so why aren't they held as accountable to their customers?

 

[puzzlefish]

There is no faith. Nobody really knows what software or hardware is generating the cards or why. Nobody knows whether player accounts are real or not, whether sites verify all players or, more likely, only those who withdraw. Nobody knows. But they sure are ready to throw their money at online poker. I don't get it because I knew something was weird from the beginning of playing online. Yes, you can still win money, but it is brutal and not at all like a live game.

 

[Polytarp]

Become a shareholder and obtain some reports.:flute:

 

[jbosker84]

Another upsetting thing is the fact that even after dumping them a few deposits, I can't and don't qualify to play in a freeroll?! How much do you have to blow to qualify for a freeroll that barely gives you a chance to win? I never went through this before "Black Friday".

 

[Joe]

When you mention 44 cards remaining as percentage basis...there's an exact chance for every card to be flopped, you're pretty much talking head to head play, or a three way table? How are there 44 cards "remaining"...Oh, I forget, ACR has about 10 aces in their decks, so there's the variance Let's just face it,

" a site is only as good as the people who are PRE programming it" --SIDENOTCH--

Ummmm it's 1/44 because you don't know what cards have been folded by the other seven players, so you count them all as possible.

I have 88, he has AJh, the board is 8222. That's eight exposed cards out of 52. He has 1 card which wins him the hand, so that's a 1/44 chance.

 

[jbosker84]

Everyone is avoiding the question...WHAT IS BETONLINE'S PHYSICAL ADDRESS? Somebody, somewhere has to know. Do you think they would get mad if I asked for them to verify their mailing address? I didn't have a problem giving mine so what is the issue?

 

[dedok0525]

I'm in 4-5 tournaments in a row losing the whole stack with an AA hand. I play on PS

 

[fadisn]

Just to inform you, it still happening again & again on pokerstars, please dont ask why do people still defending on this post, or why do I still play there !

 

[NarcisoAlfa]

try to change the mode, study a little more and lower the level of betting, it may just be a bit of a losing streak

 

[Pharaoh39]

It does feel like with ACR that there are a lot of bots. I understand this has been an issue for a minute there as well as other sites.

 

[badboydean00]

I've recently lost over 100$ on BetOnline and it hasn't been bad play. I seem to get called on horrible hands over and over again and I get taken out. I know in most cases, this is the name of the game. But, can this happen 20 tournaments in a row? It's gotten to the point where it's predictable! Yep, I'm about 85% to win but I just know I am getting sucked out! I remember playing on PokerStars back in the day before it was banned in the U.S. and it seemed to be legit. This is truly a bad poker site and have finally learned my lesson and won't make the mistake of depositing again. I just wish there were more options for the American market. I've just given them money and my comp points were only good for one single dollar tourney. On top of that...they never paid me my bonus! Ugh....I'm done, just done. This has made me truly hate poker when I used to think skill was involved.

take a look at this



666 = devil
a=6
b=12
c=18
d=24
e=30 and so on and so forth
then write the word COMPUTER and add the numbers up.... you may be shockeduke:

 

[mistershrimpy]

I've recently lost over 100$ on BetOnline and it hasn't been bad play. I seem to get called on horrible hands over and over again and I get taken out. I know in most cases, this is the name of the game. But, can this happen 20 tournaments in a row? It's gotten to the point where it's predictable! Yep, I'm about 85% to win but I just know I am getting sucked out! I remember playing on PokerStars back in the day before it was banned in the U.S. and it seemed to be legit. This is truly a bad poker site and have finally learned my lesson and won't make the mistake of depositing again. I just wish there were more options for the American market. I've just given them money and my comp points were only good for one single dollar tourney. On top of that...they never paid me my bonus! Ugh....I'm done, just done. This has made me truly hate poker when I used to think skill was involved.

Do not give this great value. You just had no luck that day. Usually, it is not so noticeable when your weak hands win solely because of luck. But if another player won in the same way, relying solely on luck, then many players have only one conclusion. It was a BOT !!

 

[TeamPainter]

It's true. There are "bots" I know for a fact on sportsbetting.ag. There is NO WAY any human could play 25 tables at once, at different stakes/table sizes.

I don't think they are all necessarily "bots", but I can guarantee you they have sort of program running to tell them exactly what to do based off things like folding to 3-bets, squeeze percentage, flop aggression, etc.

It's sick. It ruins the game for us real players.

 

[Cajin007]

Every site has BOTS, some more than others.( and yes poker stars has bots, there are ways to bypass the detection methods )
Personally, I avoid playing the cash games as much as possible. Cash games are bot breeding grounds, and just watching a few tables and noting how players play hands, gives you clues as to who is who.
And, yes there is variance, It's there in order to keep the fish around, otherwise they would get tired of playing and seek new grounds. Variance is most severe at the lower stakes, but approaches normal at the higher levels.
Tournaments, are just as bad. lower levels, wider variance. It's enough to drive some people to quit. But that is poker, and it is why we play.
So, best advice is look before you leap, and make sure you have a parachute for backup.

 

[think1n]

Is it somehow proven, that there are bots in the game? I just wondering, how this could work.

 

[VIP_TARIFF]

Hello my dear friend. This happens in life and frustration. Do not worry and continue to play poker. All your losses, you will soon pay back and a big plus. There is no poker without losing.

 

[Kichidk]

tournys are hard to win the best players only place about what 5 out a hundred tournys....as for bots only losing players are scared of bots.. I fear aggressive fish...or manical fish. you gotta know who ur playing.

i suggest you find the players name and search it on shark scope...find out his win loss ratio if he is any good or if he is just lucky...maybe a hud would help make decisions.

 

[an9312]

definitely a believer in bots. certain hands just dont make any since why someone who is playing tight all of a sudden calls a huge raise with k2 off and wins...

 

[chicopaw]

i have found if you make regular small deposits many of the times youmay win some cash but you see many more bad beats .Why is it that the big stack holder seems to always hit with good and crap hands ,this has always concerned me,,something fishy

 

[Mr_Hand]

I've recently lost over 100$ on BetOnline and it hasn't been bad play. I seem to get called on horrible hands over and over again and I get taken out. I know in most cases, this is the name of the game. But, can this happen 20 tournaments in a row? It's gotten to the point where it's predictable! Yep, I'm about 85% to win but I just know I am getting sucked out! I remember playing on PokerStars back in the day before it was banned in the U.S. and it seemed to be legit. This is truly a bad poker site and have finally learned my lesson and won't make the mistake of depositing again. I just wish there were more options for the American market. I've just given them money and my comp points were only good for one single dollar tourney. On top of that...they never paid me my bonus! Ugh....I'm done, just done. This has made me truly hate poker when I used to think skill was involved.

Every serious poker player has had this experience. I literally thought there was an engineer from the site I was playing on following me around and giving them their miracle card every river. It sucks. But it's normal. It's just something you go through when you play thousands of hands. Keep making good decisions and it will pass. I went on the worst run of my life right before the most profitable year.

 

[PackinPat]

Okay everyone is trying to make out that he just had bad luck. ya maybe. Lets just flat out ask the question. Are there bots on BOL and ACR. If yes how do we tell so we can call them out in the chat and report them to support?

 

[PaxMundi]

You can do a quick search and find plenty of information that winning players go on 350+ buy in down swings in 180 man sng's and much bigger downswings are possible in Mtt's. But 100-200 buy in down swings seem to be the average for Mtt's from what i can find.

 

[Rusel2302]

to each his own