BestPokerCoaching.com.... Maybe not??

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I actually have been contemplating this post for a few months now. I am new to poker, and I was looking for some regular coaching. I found the bestpokercoaching.com group. They wanted a deposit, which you can get back after completing the term. They provided coaching, standard lines, and help, for half of your profits. I was/am a losing player, so I figured if I can get any profits, I would be moving in the right direction.
They heavily pushed that there were no time restraints, work at your own pace, and it was very flexible in that regards. After all, they have your substantial deposit.
Unfortunately, not too long into it, I ran into a bit of legal issues. Which didn't allow me to do many things. I didn't stress out about it, because of the "at your own pace" thing.
So when I get back on my feet, and cleared things up, I try to log in and continue learning and playing. I then found out that they terminated me, and my deposit was gone.
I pleaded with them to just let me continue, and hopefully make us all money. But they wouldn't budge a bit.
I still like the idea of bpc. And would like to complete what I started (and make money). I understand that I am not blameless here, and I just wanted to let folks know about my experience. Maybe I am a fish for trusting them. Perhaps I am a fish to thing coaching for half of my profits is a good idea.
What are your thoughts on this? Is this kind of coaching for profits a good idea? Should I pay another deposit and try again?
 
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Wow half your profits seems a nice move if you are insane:hahaha:
Look around cardschat on the internet free coaching is abundant.:dontknow:
I suppose they are on to a winner lot of people handing them money
probably one out of every 1000 excuse the pun suckers who signs up has a breakthrough
wins a championship event more money wow the guys who set up that site are clever.:top:

Do not doubt there coaching is good to people with no drive and motovation who like to follow directions but this clip gives me a giggle.
Mentions suckers scams and calls people lazy bitches lol.:laugh:
Forgot about them move on good luck.
Would you really hand over 75k if you won 150k in sunday million or similar tournament?

 
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I don't think it's geared for folks playing the sunday millions. But if you are a microstakes player, and make $100 a month. $50 for coaching seems reasonable??
 
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I don't think it's geared for folks playing the sunday millions. But if you are a microstakes player, and make $100 a month. $50 for coaching seems reasonable??
Ok 50 month you make more than that playing freerolls pay nobody anything:confused:
Be interested to hear other peoples thoughts on this not trying to put you down good luck.:)
 
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50% seems nuts. Is there a cap to their cut?? Curious, how much was the deposit? How long where you inactive? Not that time should matter if they really have a stated policy about that.
 
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50% seems nuts. Is there a cap to their cut?? Curious, how much was the deposit? How long where you inactive? Not that time should matter if they really have a stated policy about that.

Yeah. It's up to 5K. for the microstakes one.
 
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all the informations you need are available online , in my opinion the only thing that is worth it , to take your game to another level and get better is the daniel course , that you could study at your own pace and take your time with it. but this is just to make your game better , for the low stakes cardschat beholds all the information you might need to become a winning player , its more a question of , would you dig deep into yourself and try to improve your game ? or looking for the easy part for someone to dictate to you what and what not to do + taking your money ^^
 
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all the informations you need are available online , in my opinion the only thing that is worth it , to take your game to another level and get better is the daniel course , that you could study at your own pace and take your time with it. but this is just to make your game better , for the low stakes cardschat beholds all the information you might need to become a winning player , its more a question of , would you dig deep into yourself and try to improve your game ? or looking for the easy part for someone to dictate to you what and what not to do + taking your money ^^


You mean this https://www.masterclass.com/classes/daniel-negreanu-teaches-poker?

I am also considering the raiseyouredge guys. But those are way expensive.

This bpc is attractive (until they screwed me) because they don't make money (unless you lose the deposit) unless you do.
 
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Hugh where can you make 50 bucks on freerolls per month its impossible
 
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This little rant is not an accusation against anyone or any training site, but my opinion is...

Poker training has become an industry. It is shocking the sort of tactics I see being employed to get people to sign up to training sites, laughable even, like a bad shopping channel advertisement come to life. But wait there's more! And deals like 50% profit as payment?! Yuk!

Poker pros of varying degrees of talent (and people who really aren't pros but claim to be) identified another revenue stream as a result of the poker boom. The question has to be asked are some (many? most?) training sites and coaches more concerned with making money than they are actually giving good training?

My own belief is to approach any paid poker training with extreme care. Like any facet of life I'm sure there are some great people out there, who are invested in passing on their knowledge and get a real buzz out of teaching others, offering quality content. Those people are entitled to make $ out of passing on their knowledge. But doubtlessly there are also con artists just looking to make a buck too, maybe hoping gullible wannabe poker heroes will fund their next wsop buy-in. Poker training is an unregulated training industry, the only person that is going to genuinely have your best interests at heart in regards to your poker skills and your financial circumstances is YOU. Do your research, take ownership of your poker education by being proactive in furthering your knowledge rather than expecting the golden ticket to be served up to you for a fee and be extremely sure before handing over money or agreeing to training deals.

There is so much free content around, also a lot to learn around a forum like this if you know who to listen to and who to ignore (which is not difficult to figure out). I think someone who is motivated to improve their game, especially micro stakes players, should seek out the free content available through forums, youtube, websites etc etc before paying for training/coaching.
 
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This little rant is not an accusation against anyone or any training site, but my opinion is...

Poker training has become an industry. It is shocking the sort of tactics I see being employed to get people to sign up to training sites, laughable even, like a bad shopping channel advertisement come to life. But wait there's more! And deals like 50% profit as payment?! Yuk!

Poker pros of varying degrees of talent (and people who really aren't pros but claim to be) identified another revenue stream as a result of the poker boom. The question has to be asked are some (many? most?) training sites and coaches more concerned with making money than they are actually giving good training?

My own belief is to approach any paid poker training with extreme care. Like any facet of life I'm sure there are some great people out there, who are invested in passing on their knowledge and get a real buzz out of teaching others, offering quality content. Those people are entitled to make $ out of passing on their knowledge. But doubtlessly there are also con artists just looking to make a buck too, maybe hoping gullible wannabe poker heroes will fund their next WSOP buy-in. Poker training is an unregulated training industry, the only person that is going to genuinely have your best interests at heart in regards to your poker skills and your financial circumstances is YOU. Do your research, take ownership of your poker education by being proactive in furthering your knowledge rather than expecting the golden ticket to be served up to you for a fee and be extremely sure before handing over money or agreeing to training deals.

There is so much free content around, also a lot to learn around a forum like this if you know who to listen to and who to ignore (which is not difficult to figure out). I think someone who is motivated to improve their game, especially micro stakes players, should seek out the free content available through forums, youtube, websites etc etc before paying for training/coaching.

Thanks for that thoughtful post. Many good points. You see some of the poker books on amazon, and you never heard of half of them. WTF is that about?
 
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This little rant is not an accusation against anyone or any training site, but my opinion is...

Poker training has become an industry. It is shocking the sort of tactics I see being employed to get people to sign up to training sites, laughable even, like a bad shopping channel advertisement come to life. But wait there's more! And deals like 50% profit as payment?! Yuk!

Poker pros of varying degrees of talent (and people who really aren't pros but claim to be) identified another revenue stream as a result of the poker boom. The question has to be asked are some (many? most?) training sites and coaches more concerned with making money than they are actually giving good training?

My own belief is to approach any paid poker training with extreme care. Like any facet of life I'm sure there are some great people out there, who are invested in passing on their knowledge and get a real buzz out of teaching others, offering quality content. Those people are entitled to make $ out of passing on their knowledge. But doubtlessly there are also con artists just looking to make a buck too, maybe hoping gullible wannabe poker heroes will fund their next WSOP buy-in. Poker training is an unregulated training industry, the only person that is going to genuinely have your best interests at heart in regards to your poker skills and your financial circumstances is YOU. Do your research, take ownership of your poker education by being proactive in furthering your knowledge rather than expecting the golden ticket to be served up to you for a fee and be extremely sure before handing over money or agreeing to training deals.

There is so much free content around, also a lot to learn around a forum like this if you know who to listen to and who to ignore (which is not difficult to figure out). I think someone who is motivated to improve their game, especially micro stakes players, should seek out the free content available through forums, youtube, websites etc etc before paying for training/coaching.


I totally agree. I have been an AP in blackjack for many years. I never take on students. I will definitely NOT write a book about it. Think about it, if I have the skills to win at the table and avoid "86", why do I want everybody to be doing it so casinos would UP the restriction on us? A few types of people would take students or write books: 1. they are APs but don't want the swing. 2. they know a lot but not really winning players. Only way to make a living is to COACH; 3. They study the game and are true ambassadors of the game, they want to share/publish their findings, like Barry Greenstein. They are not motivated by money. Just my humble opinion after playing cards for 25 years.:)
 
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