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I always catch myself:
I play tight agressive at the beginning of a tournament.
Sometimes I catch a upswing.
And then ... I play more and more loose...

Do you know this process?

What are you doing about it?
 
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Yes, because you have more "fat" to burn, like the brazilian pro Andre Akkari usually say
 
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Sorry, I do not understand.

Have you hints, how do you avoid this?
 
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Yes. sometimes it happens to me, but it hurt when having a big stack and playing freely answer with a good hand and suddenly you give most of his stack some sort of "junk" hand ..
 
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It is a good plan, in a tournament with a lot o players I usually use this tactics. But if the Tight-Aggressive don't work well I usually change my tactic to survive ITM.
 
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Playing looser after an upswing isn't necessarily a bad thing.

If you're in a tournament where the buy in is more than a couple dollars, people are more likely to play tighter and more conservatively. So after an upswing, you can use your larger chip stack to push people around more. Just don't over-do it.

If you're playing tournaments with lower buy-ins, then you will probably want to retain a standard tight-aggressive style as people are more likely to play with marginal hands, and you won't gain value from trying to bully them with your stack.

In either situation, if you feel yourself loosening up your play to the extent it backfires and you start losing chips consistently, then do something that will calm you: breathing exercise, relaxing sounds or music, whatever works for you. Just do something that will help remind you to stick to what works.
 
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I try to play my normal game no matter what has happened.
 
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Playing looser after an upswing isn't necessarily a bad thing.

If you're in a tournament where the buy in is more than a couple dollars, people are more likely to play tighter and more conservatively. So after an upswing, you can use your larger chip stack to push people around more. Just don't over-do it.

If you're playing tournaments with lower buy-ins, then you will probably want to retain a standard tight-aggressive style as people are more likely to play with marginal hands, and you won't gain value from trying to bully them with your stack.

In either situation, if you feel yourself loosening up your play to the extent it backfires and you start losing chips consistently, then do something that will calm you: breathing exercise, relaxing sounds or music, whatever works for you. Just do something that will help remind you to stick to what works.

many thanks , for your differentiated hints.


And do they always work with you?
 
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You're welcome. But if you really want to improve your game, understand this: nothing in poker "always works." There is no one size fits all answer that will work for a particular situation every time.

What I pointed out in my above post is something I have found to be generally true, but it's not always true. Poker is about nuance, about noticing little details. Knowing general trends and basic fundamentals of starting hands and betting strategies will help you at micro tables and tournaments; it will probably be enough to make you a consistently winning player there. But to be a good player, and to win at higher buy-in games, you have to learn to adapt.
 
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Playing looser after an upswing isn't necessarily a bad thing.

If you're in a tournament where the buy in is more than a couple dollars, people are more likely to play tighter and more conservatively. So after an upswing, you can use your larger chip stack to push people around more. Just don't over-do it.

If you're playing tournaments with lower buy-ins, then you will probably want to retain a standard tight-aggressive style as people are more likely to play with marginal hands, and you won't gain value from trying to bully them with your stack.

In either situation, if you feel yourself loosening up your play to the extent it backfires and you start losing chips consistently, then do something that will calm you: breathing exercise, relaxing sounds or music, whatever works for you. Just do something that will help remind you to stick to what works.

I agree with him 100%, i would just like to had, when you have chips, don't play every hand but pick your spots and try and steel blinds when in position.
When you see you start spewing chips just go back to playing tight and it should be ok.
 
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I agree with the other members that you should be loosening up. Even if you don't have a big "upswing" as the blinds grow and antes start you can just sit and wait for AA.
 
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You're welcome. But if you really want to improve your game, understand this: nothing in poker "always works." There is no one size fits all answer that will work for a particular situation every time.

What I pointed out in my above post is something I have found to be generally true, but it's not always true. Poker is about nuance, about noticing little details. Knowing general trends and basic fundamentals of starting hands and betting strategies will help you at micro tables and tournaments; it will probably be enough to make you a consistently winning player there. But to be a good player, and to win at higher buy-in games, you have to learn to adapt.

Hello Sohmurr,
many thanks for your comments.

...I'm afraid you're absolutely right...

Otherwise it would be too easy ...
 
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Yes. sometimes it happens to me, but it hurt when having a big stack and playing freely answer with a good hand and suddenly you give most of his stack some sort of "junk" hand ..

kkkkk, Worse that's the truth, because we often play conservatively and grow into premium hands, but we end up losing a lot of chips in junk hands against another player, but that's it, it's part of the game as well.
 
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Yes, because you have more "fat" to burn, like the brazilian pro Andre Akkari usually say

That's right Fernanda, playing that way being looser when you have a little more chip gives you raise a little bigger by taking advantage of the best times to rob the blaids or for value !!!

GL on the tables !!!
 
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I always catch myself:
I play tight agressive at the beginning of a tournament.
Sometimes I catch a upswing.
And then ... I play more and more loose...

Do you know this process?

What are you doing about it?

Hi Matenq,

I play exactly like that, tight aggressive, and it's the kind of game taught by all the big players, being tight at the beginning of the game, as the tournament unfolds with the increase of the blaides being more aggressive and the middle pro at the end of the tournament being quite Aggressive. However, I believe that we should take advantage of the best opportunities so that we can be aggressive at any point in the tournament, as we know that the best poker players have the characteristic of being aggressive.

GL on the tables, thanks !!!
 
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Hi Yelmo,
I think it is not enough to be aggressive.
I think I should be much more patient and wait for a good chance and then play tight aggressive ...
 
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I had the same problem... I suggest you to open an other tournament so you are not getting bored.

Or... Just talk to yourself... "Stop doing this shit, I'm gonna deep today"...!!!
 
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kkkkk, Worse that's the truth, because we often play conservatively and grow into premium hands, but we end up losing a lot of chips in junk hands against another player, but that's it, it's part of the game as well.

hmm .. I guess you're right.
 
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Hi Yelmo,
I think it is not enough to be aggressive.
I think I should be much more patient and wait for a good chance and then play tight aggressive ...

OK matenq,
Being patient and waiting for the best moment to be aggressive is great, but when you are in a Hyper-turbo tournament, where blaids go up quickly, waiting is not the best option, you end up being forced to act aggressively !!!
 
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Hi Yelmo,
I think that being an agresive is not enough. I think the mix makes it. Play good hands agresiv. bluff now and then and do not fight with the big stacks and the small stacks do not underestimate.
What also helps: Watch how the others play their hands.
 
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I usually play the same way man, but for me I have learned to use ur big stack to play what they call "small ball" if u can steal the pot for cheap awesome, if some1 shoves or raises you get out of there (unless you have good cards, obviously) .
 
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Hi,
I think it's worth reading again in this chat.
It's about balance when playing.
 
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