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UrsinusMaximus

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I watched this bizzare video on youtube where Dwan called down the river with 9 high and I lost the hand.
The commentary indicated that maybe Dwan was putting Negreanu on low suited connectors... regardless, the call seems crazy to me.

Obviously, Ace high and King high can win hands if you are aggressive forcing people out of the hand who might have weak pairs.

I was wondering if anyone knows of an instance when someone has won a hand with 9 high or weaker in a 6 max or full ring cash game? (probably has happened many times in HU when both players decide to bluff with air)
I am specificially interested in hands where all streets were played, rather than some weird short stack shove situation where no one sees a flop

Theoretically, the lowest possible hand that could win would be 42 with no pair, flush or straight, if it was facing a 32... very likely I know :D
 
terryk

terryk

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Tom Dwan is a maniac,plan n simple. his poker sense is off the scale,,its incredible. He`s prob my top 3 players in the world. :cool:
 
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16clumsyandshy

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I remember seeing from one of the cardrunners coaches MDoran or Verneer where they had 44 and the board was 55663 and villain had 22. I'm pretty sure there was a super small bet on the river and they called to Win with 4 high
 
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paulsmall007

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These guys are only human, not like they aren't above making mistakes or being wrong some of the time, there not mind readers
 
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UrsinusMaximus

Rock Star
I remember seeing from one of the cardrunners coaches MDoran or Verneer where they had 44 and the board was 55663 and villain had 22. I'm pretty sure there was a super small bet on the river and they called to Win with 4 high

Wow, that is pretty incredible. Obv in this case, both players had a playable hand before counterfeiting.

In this case there are so few hands you are beating, only 22, 23 and splitting with 24, 34 or 44. In addition, none of these hands are particularly likely, even the small pocket pairs. There must have been enormous pot odds to even consider calling down with 44
 
mar_dragan

mar_dragan

Legend
Tom Dwan is rly crazy,sick player.
He is just a legend for this situations,this is not only one,he have a lot of them.
Sick,very sick.
 
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16clumsyandshy

Rock Star
I found the exact HH from MDoranD's blog. A little different than I remembered:


***** Hand History for Game 40737021585 ***** (Merge)
$50.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, September 18, 08:26:58 ET 2011
Table Waimea Bay (40737021) (real money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: ArtVandelay4 ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 2: Badidy ( $39.35 USD )
Seat 3: KimJongIllIn ( $15.00 USD )
Seat 4: pound190 ( $72.18 USD )
Seat 5: MDoranD ( $66.92 USD )
Seat 6: BaTiSi3O9 ( $31.88 USD )
MDoranD posts small blind [$0.25 USD].
BaTiSi3O9 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
ArtVandelay4 posts big blind [$0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to MDoranD [ 5h 5d ]
ArtVandelay4 checks
Badidy folds
pound190 folds
MDoranD calls [$0.25 USD]
BaTiSi3O9 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, 7s, 4s ]
MDoranD bets [$1.00 USD]
BaTiSi3O9 calls [$1.00 USD]
ArtVandelay4 folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ]
MDoranD bets [$2.00 USD]
BaTiSi3O9 calls [$2.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Ad ]
MDoranD checks
BaTiSi3O9 bets [$5.00 USD]
MDoranD calls [$5.00 USD]
BaTiSi3O9 shows [4h, 2s ]
MDoranD shows [5h, 5d ]
MDoranD wins $16.63 USD from main pot
 
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nenkov407

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I think he called the river just to inspect Negreanu's game. To see when and why he calls. To see what is his range. To see your opponents cards could give you vital information. So if the next few hands Dwan hits a trips or a set he knows that Negreanu would call even if he miss the flop. On the other hand Negreanu would think Dwan is a loose player who is too curious and would call everything. This is a good strategy if you have a huge stack in front of you because it might take time to have the same situation and he actually to have a seven in his pocket. Well at least this is my explanation I don't know what is it in his head but I believe he is not a regular donk since he sits there and we don't.
 
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B1BOMBER

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My favorite hand is 3 5. I was chip leader late in tourney. Short stack goes all in,I got my 3 5 and called. He showed AA. I flopped 3 3's and caught a 5 on the river for the boat and added 1 more hater to my list.:D:D
 
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giantssbxlii

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worst bad beat I ever gave to someone was my pocket 22 and the flop was a 3 9 the guy then went all in i said **** it he had AA then the next two cards were 4 5
 
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UrsinusMaximus

Rock Star
I think he called the river just to inspect Negreanu's game. To see when and why he calls. To see what is his range. To see your opponents cards could give you vital information. So if the next few hands Dwan hits a trips or a set he knows that Negreanu would call even if he miss the flop. On the other hand Negreanu would think Dwan is a loose player who is too curious and would call everything. This is a good strategy if you have a huge stack in front of you because it might take time to have the same situation and he actually to have a seven in his pocket. Well at least this is my explanation I don't know what is it in his head but I believe he is not a regular donk since he sits there and we don't.

Interesting, but don't you think that Dwan and Negreanu have played together enough hands that they both have a reasonable idea of each other's range?
 
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nenkov407

Rock Star
Interesting, but don't you think that Dwan and Negreanu have played together enough hands that they both have a reasonable idea of each other's range?

I have expected such an answer. Yes, even if they haven't play together they would have seen each other moves on TV. BUT players of that rank do not play by a template. They have various strategies for every opponent, every cash game, every tournament. For example I would never raise with a 95s but I see a lot of poker pros do it but they have the ability to adjust to the current game while me and the rest 99% of poker players are not so talented and we prefer to enter the flop with at least ATo. And that's the main reason why you, me and the rest of 99% poker players are not at this particular table :D.

Edit:
Just got simpler answer on my mind - I have been in a situation where I am 100% sure that I lost the hand and still paid just to see his cards. Pure curiosity.
 
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DrakeM

Enthusiast
Well either he can read him very, very well or hes a dam maniac. Theres no 3rd option.
 
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UrsinusMaximus

Rock Star
I was recently reading James McManus' book Cowboys Full (nice Christmas present!) where he recalled an anecdote where the late Stu Ungar accurately put his opponent on a one of two combinations of suited connectors and won a pot by called all-in on the river with 10 high!
Maybe Dwan had this in mind.
 
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