WHY ARE THERE NAMECALLERS?

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My 2 cents

I personally love the namecallers! They give me something to laugh at (when they are not talking to me) while my butt gets flat sitting online for 4-6 hours. They also distract me from chainsmoking, ( I am constantly scrolling back through the text), overeating, and blind rage when my boyfriend breaks my concentration (asking me if I need a cigarrette or if I want the last donut).
All jokes aside, if everyone went by the "good call rule" then we would not have the joy of busting an idiot who has more money than sense. The "experts" tend to berate others when they get beat. In all actuality, they make themselves targets,very easy to read, (for the wild card players...i.e. the Gus Hanson's of the world...that will play any 2 cards as long as the preflop price is right.
I can't tell you how many times I spotted an AK all-in, that I more than gladly called with my low PP... And got raked over the coals for doing so! I know a guy whose favorite hand was 57...And he would go all-in with it everytime! He won $10,000 on sportsbook just playing ring games. Just imagine how many times he got his butt chewed!
In any case, we all have to remember that everyone plays differently and us veteran online gamers have to set an example for the "newbies". Eventually they get tired of typing insults, as did I...hunting & pecking my way through a tirade that no one was paying attention to...and they give up.
My advice is to mute them or ignore them. Don't let them get you off your game as they are obviously already off theirs. And if you feel yourself going down the temptation path to badmouthville, just remember, the "donk" that busted YOU probably just started playing cards and the luck will run out! Follow him around and steal his ass for a few weeks, that will make you feel a hundred times better than cursing him out!

I personally use the philosophy that any 2 cards are good before the flop and before the bets. I also tell pottymouths that I can't see through the cards and I honestly thought my hand was the best going in..."How was I to know you were playing AA?" That's why it's called gambling......;)
 
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guess what? you can't mute someone not sitting at the table.
At bodog you can change from the chat tab to the tournament info tab, so that you dont see any chat at all. The downside is that you can no longer respond to civilised people that comment "nh" or similar.
 
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Like remembering what we were told when we were young.
"If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all" :)

Heard that different when I was young..."if you dont have anything nice to say....come sit next to me" :)
 
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Merlin-nice post. I like your technique (it's only your 2nd I've seen), and thanks for the tips. It was an enjoyable read, as are many on this site. Wow, what a difference in intellect between this and my fishing forum!:eek:

When I joined a couple of months ago, I couldn't fathom card chat being interesting (The other card chat sites I'm on pale in comparison), but I'm in now. Like many, I just wanted passwords. Good job to the gatekeepers. Anyway, Cardfetish (if you even see this)- I love the grittiness of your play elements description! The chain smoking, pig- out is a specialty of mine, too. Anyway, what kind of question is "Do you want the last donut?"? Don't we always?

As for the meanies- I usually say "Kindness is a sign of intelligence; I think we know who's next out." Then when they bust, I give them "gg?" Most get a good laugh at the table.
 
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all these jokers that run their mouths online about what a bad call that was, and how could you play that etc. i realize this has been said in this post but it bears repeating. if these online "experts" did this crap in a brick and mortar casino, they would in some cases be asked to leave or at the very least get a time penalty. if they were especially unfortuante, the donkey that knocked them out of the tourney might knock them out in the parking lot. its the easiest thing in the world to be a badass sittin behind a computer, but it doesnt make it right, and it doesnt mean your any smarter for doing so. i can only hope that some of these internet "experts" will get clued in.
 
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I am guilty of the occasional "Donk" comment, but it is very rarely when I get knocked out and always on a freeroll table with someone that is continually playing bad cards out of position and catching then bragging about his/her poker skillz.

If I am knocked out by one of these I try to add a little humor to my exit occasionally and will say something like "Come donkey we will find another game" or "Donkey its time to go find the princess" (these go through my head with Shrek's voice I dont know why but it makes me giggle)

What people have to realize is that some players (good or bad) are going to think that they are the best. And those are usually the ones doing the name calling so you can tell they will get flustered easly most times on a good hand if they THINK they are supposed to win.
Donkey's, suckouts and whatever else names I have seen and occasionally been called are a part of the game, use them as a learning tool I was once told so I do hehe
 
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I dont care if it benefits me, you or the pope if u piss me off you getting called a donk with some explicit words chucked in for good measure. I think i need anger management tbh, I just cant help but get wound up with people calling with "BS" hands and then knocking my KK out of high heaven, theres no point to it i know but at the time i dont give a......
Even if i win the hand and the other person shows some 72 or wuteva thats plenty to get me riled up. Its probably why i been on such a loosing streak lately coz i chat so much BS!!

But always i include a valid point and thats where people come unstuck, if you gonna rant least have a valid point and keep it real.
 
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I do think some of you are comming across with a `I am a martyr, I never get frustrated` approach.

What about players like Phil Helmuth, Devilfish, etc. On a regular basis I see these guys calling other players about the way they play - especially when they get muffed on the river.


GL all

I understand what you're saying, BUT, I wonder if Phil might be on his 12th or 13 maybe even 14th bracelet, if not for that one guy who called his all in simply to see Phil go ballistic?

I believe there are reasons to make "friends" at the table. While maybe against the "rules" of poker, people do make soft plays, and sometimes they do this to people that they like. Take wsop horse tourney, Scotty was upset with DeMichelle, and dumped chips off to Eric. He did this because he "liked" Eric and didn't want to see this cocky kid win the tourney. While maybe unethical, nobody is going to give chips back that they've won.

By the same token, I at times get upset, NORMALLY it's after I make some donk move, and I believe when I do, I often upset others at the table who simply want to take the "loudmouth" out. I know I love it when someone is talking trash at the table and I get the claim of taking out the table loudmouth....
 
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I go both ways on this, though I never call anyone a name. The main reason is that before they beat me with junk: I wanted them to call. In a 1.50 cent tourny yesterday on ft, I play tight for the first 45 minutes and am down to 900 chips utg with JJ. I raise 3x (225) and get two callers. J,6,8 rainbow is the flop. I go all-in and get two callers, the other jack and a 9-10. Guess the river. I'm out and I wanted the two callers. Was he a donk I thought so, but I just typed gg and gl everyone. On the other hand being called a donk usually means I just won a big pot, so call me all the names you want. I know Im not calling two all ins with a gut shot straight though the donk. lol
 
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So the next time you call someone a "donkey" think first - are you showing how little YOU really know about the game? At least consider that if you find yourself in this position a LOT (whining in the losers lounge) maybe you need to learn something...

You're right.
I've noticed that men (a little more often women) use to be great experts of every kind of sport (my husband is an example, sigh...), even if they don't play all of them.
THE is among them. You watch some tournaments on TV and you're an expert. It's a sad thing. And when you start losing, because you're not a good player, you hide behind rules and technique. But they only whine at their "donkeyness" (I don't know if this word exists in English, but I didn't know how to render it... :D).
In Italy we say: "La mamma degli ignoranti e' sempre incinta", that can be translated: "The mother of the ignorants is always pregnant". ;)
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You're right.
I've noticed that men (a little more often women) use to be great experts of every kind of sport (my husband is an example, sigh...), even if they don't play all of them.
THE is among them. You watch some tournaments on TV and you're an expert. It's a sad thing. And when you start losing, because you're not a good player, you hide behind rules and technique. But they only whine at their "donkeyness" (I don't know if this word exists in English, but I didn't know how to render it... :D).
In Italy we say: "La mamma degli ignoranti e' sempre incinta", that can be translated: "The mother of the ignorants is always pregnant". ;)
Arian

Funny saying, i like it.
 
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looking at some of the points raised by other people here i would like to say khaosk you are so wrong and coasterdude28 you are so right.To quote doyle brunson from his book onlone poker from page126"And if someone gets lucky and beats you,don't tell them they played bad and instill hostility into the game.Be a bigger person and move on." If its good enough for texas dolly its good enough for me.The thing that really bugs me about the namecallers is that I have seen a few play "bad" cards and hit.So basically its ok for them to play like "donks" and hit but god help anyone who does the same to them.Bloody crybabies the lot of them.I recently wrote a blog called cardchat v other forum sites.It explains what is so good about here and so bad about others. Namely crybabies are few and far between in cardchat games.Long may it continue
 
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ok, explain this to me.......ill post the hand in a second, and I am trying to get a screen shot of the "running the mouth" but the short version is, this guy is pissed at me for playing the cards I had, and telling me he woulds have won IF, his card had come on the river.......... cyclops126 posts the small blind of 10.
Cowboy8112 posts the big blind of 20.
STEELERS1103: -- --
kassinova70: -- --
ntonawanda: -- --
Tartufo: -- --
FoxwoodsFan: -- --
cyclops126: -- --
Cowboy8112: Kc Kd
kaybrit: -- --
BeBe_ViCioSo: -- --
Little Duece: -- --
Pre-flop:

kaybrit calls. BeBe_ViCioSo folds. Little Duece
calls. STEELERS1103 folds. kassinova70 folds.
ntonawanda folds. Tartufo folds. FoxwoodsFan folds.
cyclops126 calls. Cowboy8112 raises to 185.
kaybrit goes all-in for 540. Little Duece calls.
cyclops126 folds. Cowboy8112 re-raises to 2180.
Little Duece calls.
Flop (board: Ac Qh 3h):

Cowboy8112 goes all-in for 1125. Little Duece calls.

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

Cowboy8112 shows Kc Kd.
kaybrit shows 6s 8h.
Little Duece shows 7c Qc.

Turn (board: Ac Qh 3h Js):

(no action in this round)

River (board: Ac Qh 3h Js Ks):

(no action in this round)
 
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ok, explain this to me.......ill post the hand in a second, and I am trying to get a screen shot of the "running the mouth" but the short version is, this guy is pissed at me for playing the cards I had, and telling me he woulds have won IF, his card had come on the river.......... cyclops126 posts the small blind of 10.
Cowboy8112 posts the big blind of 20.
STEELERS1103: -- --
kassinova70: -- --
ntonawanda: -- --
Tartufo: -- --
FoxwoodsFan: -- --
cyclops126: -- --
Cowboy8112: Kc Kd
kaybrit: -- --
BeBe_ViCioSo: -- --
Little Duece: -- --
Pre-flop:

kaybrit calls. BeBe_ViCioSo folds. Little Duece
calls. STEELERS1103 folds. kassinova70 folds.
ntonawanda folds. Tartufo folds. FoxwoodsFan folds.
cyclops126 calls. Cowboy8112 raises to 185.
kaybrit goes all-in for 540. Little Duece calls.
cyclops126 folds. Cowboy8112 re-raises to 2180.
Little Duece calls.
Flop (board: Ac Qh 3h):

Cowboy8112 goes all-in for 1125. Little Duece calls.

Tournament all-in showdown -- players show:

Cowboy8112 shows Kc Kd.
kaybrit shows 6s 8h.
Little Duece shows 7c Qc.

Turn (board: Ac Qh 3h Js):

(no action in this round)

River (board: Ac Qh 3h Js Ks):

(no action in this round)
i imagine anyone could say that. i woulda won if my card came on the river. see i just said it. real easy.
im fairly sure your right to be upset goes out the window when you play Q7 sooooted. i could be wrong, but i dont think so :D
 
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I'll lay you 10 to 1 that all of the people who always claim they can't win because a "do*k" always catches their AA or KK with a 72os or 82os are just..... "exaggerating".

Assuming you know that no one always win a hand just because they have the best of it before the flop (or anywhere else unless you flop the stone cold nuts or the opposition folds) There would be no reason to be mad because net net you'd be a winning player.

It seems to me that the people who do not have the simple discipline to not comment on every ones play, call the opposition names, get frustrated to the point they can't play just don't have the discipline it takes to be good at this game. These guys like Hellmuth, Devilfish, Shekan are just punks - they can always be found yakkin' at players who don't return the favor and/or they calculate gives them an edge. One of the most impressive showings I saw online was watching Greg Raymer and Hevad Kahn. They were both playing on Stars and a pack of clowns (who have never won any money of significance) were calling them everything from "Tubby" ,"you can't play" and a bunch of things I'd feel stupid even repeating here. Raymer and Kahn went on to methodically bust and embarass each and every namecaller. Raymer said, after busting the last one, "I'm going to report you for chat abuse". Had it been the wild west he would have blown the smoke from his six-gun, twirled then holstered it.

In my younger days I used to be a fighter - my dad was a golden gloves boxer and the little town I grew up in - people punched each other out. Now I'm older, wiser, know it's stupid and childish unless protecting you and your family BUT STILL I'll argue with some of these punks online because they are riding someone who is too mature to bother with them. THAT IS STUPID ON MY PART PERIOD!! I don't get "mad" otherwise I'd think I was mentally imbalanced - lol - I just don't mind mixing it up with knuckleheads and all to often that "willingness" sure does not give positive effect to my game. Hopefully I'll mature out of it. BUT I'm not going to blame it on them because I know better, apparently they don't and usually they're out and I'm in. I'm no shrink but I think those who can't control themselves are missing an important element of poker and life - discipline and more often than not they get busted. Most often (not always) the good players do not engage in these antics.

Of course everyone who loses is dissapointed at the loss but that is not the same thing as when you who can't contain yourself, get frustrated, go on tilt, want to quit, sit in the losers lounge namecalling for an hour, claim the game is rigged and on and on and on then write about it over and over and over again - you have seen the enemy and he is you.

The reason I say "guy" is that most women, as ArianSilver implies, are too smart to tilt themselves out of the game.

I don't know about you namecallers but my game is too weak to waste time whining about being beaten a hand - whining just makes it weaker............

Merlin333:cool:

PokerStars. Dresden1 you are SO RIGHT. One major characteristics of these players is they will call your lucky hand in a minute and not a peep when their all in holding 25os UTG hits AND when they go out it's usually with a hand worse than the one they criticized... too sad
 
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You're right.
I've noticed that men (a little more often women) use to be great experts of every kind of sport (my husband is an example, sigh...), even if they don't play all of them.
THE is among them. You watch some tournaments on TV and you're an expert. It's a sad thing. And when you start losing, because you're not a good player, you hide behind rules and technique. But they only whine at their "donkeyness" (I don't know if this word exists in English, but I didn't know how to render it... :D).
In Italy we say: "La mamma degli ignoranti e' sempre incinta", that can be translated: "The mother of the ignorants is always pregnant". ;)
Arian

hahahahahahahaha tooo good - tooo funny - tooo right
Merlin333 :cool:
 
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I think the "I woulda won" people are THE funniest of them all. Those I love retorting to with silly stuff like "well I would have been president had I ran for office" or "I would have been a milliionair had i won the lottery today" I usually get an LOL or two from the table and that seems to lighten the mood back up a bit and they guy who complained kinda shuts up!
 
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In the heat of the moment, I am disappointed and upset to have been knocked out but... After I cool down and analyze the hand, sometimes I was behind the actual percentages.

That is why I say nothing to anyone who knocks me out, it could have been the right play.
 
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Name Callers at the poker tables

It appears that some people are poor losers and want to vent and attack the players who made them lose at the poker tables.

Of course this shows poor sportsmanship and poor character. In addition to letting the world know that " hey, I am a real jerk".

I am very sensitive and when called names, my game is just about over. Because I am upset. Then, the table goes on mute. But, my game is just about over at that point.

I have left the tables upset, and also left the tables feeling happy for meeting such nice people.

For example, once, I was stalling with low chips, and was trying to just make it to the money. Well, it was obvious what I was doing. And several of the players started stalling too, just to help me get to the money.
At that particular time, I got busted out before the money. And the players chatted to me "hey, we tried" and I say "thank you"

I have evern had players fold when they had the better hand, just to allow me to stay in the game.

Those are the times when you walk away having a warm feeling about your fellow human being.

So, It goes both ways: the nice people and the jerks.

But, the good news is, the "jerks" are a minority. The good people are in the vast majority.

:) :) :)
 
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I usually try to ignore people who call me names. My other alternative is just to say "Thank you". Would like to be able to mute "observers" who do this. Worse than this is the other day someone was saying really, really horrible things to a Vietnam Vet. He was still playing so could mute him.
 
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For the namecallers:

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