Why are there fewer top women poker players?

mimietmour

mimietmour

Visionary
Platinum Level
Joined
May 30, 2020
Total posts
932
Awards
6
Chips
172
Why is there more men then womern in the top poker player?
 
Sivraj

Sivraj

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 22, 2021
Total posts
343
Chips
4
I assume that more men play then women. But there are some extremely talented female poker players that are very good and profit from the game. Vanessa Selbst comes to mind.
 
Phoenix Wright

Phoenix Wright

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Total posts
2,915
Awards
4
Chips
415
Like many other sports and games historically speaking, women used to be discouraged from playing (or at least encouraged less often to play). This is changing; now the poker community seems to welcome women, but they still are far from the numbers of men who play poker.

There have been many great poker players who are women (Vanessa Selbst, Vanessa Roussou, Liv Boree, Mario Ho, Carrie Lew and many more [also edit on spelling if I got any names wrong]).

It is still the fact that most poker players are men, so naturally that is why most at the top are men; interesting will be to see the ratio of men to women in the poker world in a decade or two :flowers:
 
YYfourU

YYfourU

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 3, 2021
Total posts
236
Chips
0
Cause gambling isn’t in a Mother Nature. A mother wouldn’t gamble with the lives of there children while males in the animal world kill children.
 
YYfourU

YYfourU

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 3, 2021
Total posts
236
Chips
0
Like many other sports and games historically speaking, women used to be discouraged from playing (or at least encouraged less often to play). This is changing; now the poker community seems to welcome women, but they still are far from the numbers of men who play poker.

There have been many great poker players who are women (Vanessa Selbst, Vanessa Roussou, Liv Boree, Mario Ho, Carrie Lew and many more [also edit on spelling if I got any names wrong]).

It is still the fact that most poker players are men, so naturally that is why most at the top are men; interesting will be to see the ratio of men to women in the poker world in a decade or two :flowers:



Haven’t looked, but any of those pro women poker players have children?
 
Phoenix Wright

Phoenix Wright

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Feb 18, 2020
Total posts
2,915
Awards
4
Chips
415
Haven’t looked, but any of those pro women poker players have children?


I'm not too sure, but I'd imagine most don't for a different reason. Being a high stakes pro requires not only a lot of skill, but also a lot of travel and/or long hours; this is not as easy do with with a family. It is no surprise most poker players at the highest levels usually make it to the top while they are single (men or women) and if they do get married/have children, then they will usually want to spend more time with them and less time on poker (as Johnathan Little has done by posting poker content and spending time with family, rather than playing as much poker himself).

I'm not saying it is impossible (many pros are married and/or have children), but usually this isn't the case, or they are so successful at poker that they can "afford" to put in less hours at the tables compared to what they used to do.

I haven't checked much either, but I imagine most women in poker are single...but that isn't gender based because I think most men in poker are single too.

Basically, being a high stakes pro is very demanding.
 
D

DS3

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Sep 9, 2019
Total posts
7,496
Awards
1
GB
Chips
209
Just fifty years ago the majority of women were not yet in the workplace.

Fifty percent of single women and and forty percent of married women were not yet apart of the official workforce in the 70s. To have made the gains they have done in the ensuing years is nothing short of phenomenal, particularly as few if any professions are now regarded as solely a man's domain.

The key issue faced by women regarding poker was for decades they were essentially barred from playing the game- it was completely frowned upon. It could be argued a legacy of that would be the patronizing attitude many women still face when attempting to enter the game, a matter which has been discussed on these very boards.

I'd love to say that within ten years there will be a marked increase in women playing but I am not sure of that (sadly). Last bastion syndrome. Just this wsop you had yet another manly-man insert himself into the women's tournament and Phil Helmuth go on yet another vulgar rant. As I have noted before, I think many on the periphery of poker witnessing such things, newbies let alone women, do not find the game as much of a draw as they should.

As for the animal kingdom take, I find that a stretch. Contemporary males aren't out on the plain taking down buffalo. And if they hunt that would likely be with the use of a high powered hunting rifle from a few hundred yards away. Not exactly the days of yore. Is it a thing men kill their 'step' children to insert themselves into a household? I don't think so...we now have 'stay at home dads'.

If there was a marked decrease in chauvinism I think the women's game would grow rapidly, but I think ultimately it will be gradual generational change. In the interim many women will prefer to attend their own tournaments - which by the by do show strong growth.
 
Bambini7777

Bambini7777

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Jul 15, 2018
Total posts
1,437
Awards
3
Chips
9
because there are few women professionals, and there are much more men, therefore they are not in the top:)
 
Luvepoker

Luvepoker

Lost in the twilight zone
Community Guide
Joined
Feb 21, 2018
Total posts
5,286
Awards
23
US
Chips
492
I think this is not true as there are many top players that are women. The problem is possible how you look at the top players. If your looking at the top 10 or 20 yes there all male but why? Many of these players just play everything they can and with so much volume they naturally will end up higher. Most of the lady I know believe in having a life outside other things and this is probably part of the reason you wont see them in the top ten. Its not there skill but they want a life. Another issue is to be honest, 98% if not more players and male. Just the sheer volume on male to females' player is part of the issue as well.

FYI there are 4 female players in the GPI ranked in the top 200 including the 28th best player in the world.
#28 Nadya Magnus
#130 Katie Lindsay
#150 Kyna England
#195 Kristen "Krissyb24" Bicknel
 
10gerka

10gerka

Visionary
Platinum Level
Joined
Aug 6, 2018
Total posts
964
Awards
3
Chips
120
I think that if there are women playing poker, but not many, I think the truth is for several reasons, often women have more responsibilities at home and that is why you do not see many playing, when you have a family, it is a bit complicated to take this sport always, that's my opinion.
 
frank174

frank174

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Nov 6, 2016
Total posts
3,188
Awards
22
Chips
155
like most stats everything is open to interpretation,your ranking player by their results in tournaments ,what about the hundreds that don't touch trny's but just play cash,I,m sure their are lots of nameless faceless player's out there that are just as good or better then any of the one's mentioned,poker has such a large player pool any of the rankings are solely based on trny play,poker in my opinion is by far the hardest game in the world to say this person is the best,so my best guess is that there is a ton of excellent women player's we just don,t know them
 
pavel1111111

pavel1111111

Legend
Platinum Level
Joined
Dec 22, 2014
Total posts
3,225
Awards
34
RO
Chips
739
I think because of the resistance at the effort and of course they are very discouraged, I don't understand why they are looked at differently, they should be much more encouraged to play especially in the current poker system, where there are so many tournaments :)
 
bra01

bra01

Rock Star
Platinum Level
Joined
Oct 27, 2015
Total posts
455
Awards
2
Chips
21
Because poker is a board game that is more suitable for men
 
MishkaZL

MishkaZL

Legend
Platinum Level
Joined
Dec 1, 2018
Total posts
2,133
Awards
2
UA
Chips
198
Why is there more men then womern in the top poker player?


Probably because more men than women play poker in general. If the number of players, women and men were the same, I think we would see a lot of women, professional players. Personally, I think that women are better players than men. Usually women are more patient and think better about their decisions.
 
N

neagranufan19380

Rising Star
Bronze Level
Joined
Mar 29, 2017
Total posts
22
Chips
0
It's harder for us, we're more emotional than men.
 
L

luckyrnmd

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 17, 2021
Total posts
96
Chips
0
Because they can not reach top in almost everything. they can not spend as much time as man for example.
 
hecendorfer

hecendorfer

Rising Star
Bronze Level
Joined
Aug 29, 2021
Total posts
19
Chips
0
It's harder for us, we're more emotional than men.



That might be a description of a weak/recreational player who is playing for fun or playing on tilt.
Have you ever donated your chips to the short stack at the table? I dont think so. Also men have emotions as well and women can take the game seriously…
Although poker is a game where you have incomplete information and you need to take risk which is against human nature and men are more likely to take risks then women.
If the question is about top players i agree its more about the volumes.
As gender roles are more equal than earlier might you see more top player ladies.
 
skalibur

skalibur

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Dec 4, 2019
Total posts
248
Chips
11
volume

Why is there more men then womern in the top poker player?
because if you look at the number of men who play poker in the world it must be 10x greater than the number of women who play poker
 
Top