Why it's easier to give advice then take it?

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Not sure if it would eliminate mistakes, especially around where I am :p but I do think it would make everything better.
otherwise we will live in world of full of people who can learn anything just take few advices and no one make mistakes anymore, kinda weird world...
 
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I think part of the reason its easier to give than take advise is we really don't want to admit to our mistakes. People feel better if there is a reason they lost over than admitting they made a error or could have made an error.
 
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Recently i do lazy view of internet and just saw some poker game stream, and i notices one thing, that i easily analyze game and hands i viewed.

And then i start thinking, why it's so easy analyze other games and if you you try to analyze yourself games it's always go bad...
gonna start with this....If you have this limitation id SUGGEST a forum up to 5 friends to work together every weekend on your game and the 4 others....active people of course to look over your plays share how each thinks of this and your play along with the other 4s...this will give you a very GOOD new perspective...a coach can work but ive found this is a limitation on some POKER players the one on one thing might now work as well as 5 people you like trust who all play a different game for different reasons :)
 
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It’s because when you’re not involved it’s easier to see than if you are.
This i agree with 100% those saying you know is emotions? I have played probably 20,000 hands i have won a ton of money i critique self regular myself...I have learned every way possible i go over my hands.....SEEING IS IMPORTANT....what my statements on myself is saying I DONT HAVE these emotions honestly not anymore but I ALSO every dime i spend i can burn seriously this money i throw into a game is MEANINGLESS i have emotion maybe on how sick I feel at the moment...I know i have cognitive issues from 23% of blood oxygen to my brain and started over 10 years ago 9 was 4 major heart attacks blood clots etc...I am dying I came to terms with that a long time ago:) This is ok when I feel terrible my play shows cause will take risks maybe wouldnt but lets look at yesterday....had pocket 9s had went down two hands in a row won pockets 1 hand....top pair on board with king jack no hmm flush or str8 possible....villian had kk....i felt he had kk but taking me down to 2300? from 3400 was ok i finished very early but had 99 2 hands later vs jj wasnt gonna let that go with 8 high flop....If FELT great healthier maybe i throw out but doubt it....Didnt mind losing just am up front about how i feel....I felt ok that day cards were not there :) this was thursday 2pm platinum but i Was good taking the risk etc...it happens its poker....See this is why its easy to put emotion out of it...Im not sure was RIGHT DECISIONS but im sure THAT DAY FOR ME ? I trust the process and played that process to my best ability for that moment that day:) So if you have emotions? You want to own them make rules so it dont matter....SIDE NOTE trump elon? They can say IDGAF vs everything and everyone that is another level of freedom I live life though not a billionaire like that at this point my bills are paid i got over 700 credit rating in over a year cause is a new world and needed credit for first time in years...I have few k in bank etc...all of this matters in life and especially poker to me....I hope this helps someone....Biggest thing about poker if its your job its very hard very demanding if NOT REMEMBER ALWAYS why your playing im not playing to get a million dollars im playing out of LOVE of competition i was the point guard i was the quarterback etc...i went and got the whole block of people to play games as a kid i owned businesses and was the boss....everything i use in poker i use in life meaning i keep a full life outside of poker...its no longer a job ITS FUN that is all :) FREEDOM work on that play for the love work on different ways to study work in groups work with a coach whatever works with you...I play poker differently probably then anyone i know here....Its more intuitive then anything else even though im a logic based person...The numbers do not matter as much as my gut ever :)Others will 100% disagree I get that im not sure they have been as successful as me though:) Some are a lot are not...Is not winning every time every day for me so I go more and more to the side of intuitive play over numbers based :) I am not doing as well as like but been sick a long time again so accept that is part of the equation :)
 
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Because the world needs more humility <3 No one can learn anything when they think they know it all <3
I got a huge ego but i played at top level for months and years at a time...Hell I got results live like no ones business....Do i believe live i sit down i own the bar i own the table YES EVERYTIME but proof is doing that over an high 40 some year playing career.....But did i learn from coaches yes annie howard mean everything to my game did i work in groups? Did i take other coaches even pay yes they were better players then me more successful etc...BUT THAT EGO lmfao is always there hahahahahaa
 
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I got a huge ego but i played at top level for months and years at a time...Hell I got results live like no ones business....Do i believe live i sit down i own the bar i own the table YES EVERYTIME but proof is doing that over an high 40 some year playing career.....But did i learn from coaches yes annie howard mean everything to my game did i work in groups? Did i take other coaches even pay yes they were better players then me more successful etc...BUT THAT EGO lmfao is always there hahahahahaa
Yah but isnt my answer my perspective? How can I be wrong? lol And congrats on your career <3
 
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gonna start with this....If you have this limitation id SUGGEST a forum up to 5 friends to work together every weekend on your game and the 4 others....active people of course to look over your plays share how each thinks of this and your play along with the other 4s...this will give you a very GOOD new perspective...a coach can work but ive found this is a limitation on some POKER players the one on one thing might now work as well as 5 people you like trust who all play a different game for different reasons :)
Nice tip, at last now i have reason to find 5 people who will agree be my friends :)
 
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I think part of the reason its easier to give than take advise is we really don't want to admit to our mistakes. People feel better if there is a reason they lost over than admitting they made a error or could have made an error.
Stubborn and ego it's part of men characters that don't let make reasonable designs..
 
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Because someone's advice may differ greatly from your own opinion...
 
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Because advice is usually given after assessing the situation. Everyone seems reasonable when the entire case is laid out on the table. But in order to accept someone's advice you must admit your mistake first of all.
 
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Overall more then i read more comes to conclusion that all our actions is mistake in perspective of other people...

So i have next question have to determine right advice in lake of advices in different points of view?
 
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Before analyzing your own hands or a complete tournament, the important thing is to study and ask for opinions from more experienced players to acquire more and more knowledge.
 
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Before analyzing your own hands or a complete tournament, the important thing is to study and ask for opinions from more experienced players to acquire more and more knowledge.
seems legit, but in which criteria you determinate more experienced player, quantity of played hands, total of prize money, bigger post count on forum?
 
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In regards to poker I think we are just to close, i.e. we have to much emotion invested in the outcome. We don't want to see our own short comings, which in turn makes it hard to constructively criticize ourselves.

In general it is not much different. We like to think of ourselves as self sufficient, not in need of outside perspectives to help us along. Yet we always have 2 cents to share on everyone else's troubles.

This is a terrible trait that I believe is more societal than in our nature. Don't get me wrong it is defiantly both. However not all cultures are as reluctant as we are.

Everyone we know is better at something than we are and taking advantage of each individuals superior skill at a specific tasks could be very beneficial if we were humble enough to tap into this as a resource.
 
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Recently i do lazy view of internet and just saw some poker game stream, and i notices one thing, that i easily analyze game and hands i viewed.

And then i start thinking, why it's so easy analyze other games and if you you try to analyze yourself games it's always go bad...
I think we sometimes do things we can't brag about, we know we're wrong but how nice it would be if we gave the shot 🤣. To easily understand the game and what is happening at the table I think is an advantage.
 
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I have always wondered- why do losing players give poker advice?
 
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seems legit, but in which criteria you determinate more experienced player, quantity of played hands, total of prize money, bigger post count on forum?
...experienced player in my opinion means when the player is a professional, because to reach that level he went through all the situations that were described in the previous message... if you don't know anyone with that level, someone who plays and wants to evolve in the game to discuss the hands.
 
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It's the old saying, the grass is always greener on the other side.
 
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UP thread, collecting more opinions :)
 
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Not only in poker people tend to think advice are criticisms.
 
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is hard because you and almost everyone plays poker to win , that is why is very hard to play disciplne poker when you and at least one more player try to win the game / hand :) , especially if you have a very low bankroll ..
 
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is hard because you and almost everyone plays poker to win , that is why is very hard to play disciplne poker when you and at least one more player try to win the game / hand :) , especially if you have a very low bankroll ..
i see 2 ways, or play to win or try enjoy the process more that goal.
In 2nd case takes advice will be easier.
 
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