This is a discussion on What Percentage of Poker is Luck VS Skill within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; many experienced players say that luck has 80% and skill of 20%, do you think?
Is this a trap question?
I think that 99% of luck is involved and 1% of skill.
It is better to think like that because if governement begin to think that more skill is involved, then he will track and tax our winning like he did in Israel..
A skilled player his the one who relly on luck the less possible.
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this is not true, if you have the option (decision) to bet or flod, and if you understand the logic of poker, you certainly have more skills and not luck.
It would be Lucky top players in the world always be on the final tables .. I think not.
many experienced players say that luck has 80% and skill of 20%, do you think?
What kind of difference does it make how much luck or Skill is involved? Luck is the same for everyone and as said above, if you improve your game, and play a lot, results will show. How high those will be is a question of skill, edge, call it however you want ^^
__________________ Poker is a game of skill against your opponents luck
I'm inclined to think this is closer than the 80% luck mentioned earlier (op). If your pocket aces have 80% chance of winning a hand, with a large enough sample, that should hold true? Getting "unlucky" sucks, but isn't it a settled question that the variance balances itself out in the long run?
As luck would have it, we see many of the same faces at the final table on TV. I think that Mike Sexton has said in almost every WPT final table that to win a tournament, you must win the races....that is all about luck. One must manage their stack properly to get into a position where you need to take a 50/50 chance...my pocket 10s seem to lose more than win against A, K.
Some university afirmetted in poker 80% is skill, because mostly you can muck your hand and dont need prove that had the best hand for won. But 20% is lucky.
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You can have all the skill and experience anyone could possibly have and based on those skills and knowledge only play hands that have the most odds of winning but you can still get unlucky with that one outer that your opponent(s) needs to beat your hand. In my opinion luck is a much larger factor than skill.
how much more knowledge are involved, less luck will be necessary.
Try play without see your cards, it's hard?
Some pokerpro will win a lot of pots, why?
Poker is a game of minds, the cards some times don't make difference, you can lost AA for 72o in a allin preflop, but if you play and analyze the board and the villain, you can make a good lecture or induce him a fold better cards.
You will have no luck in a mtt a lot of time, but if you play concentrated all the game, you can fall and getup again.
In a mtt with one specific player, i was in allin with him at lest 3 times, i lost all, but had finish in the money, 6 place, my good lectures in some times was gives me a percent of possibility fails without lost all my chips.
Several threads ask for our opinions on luck and lucky hands.
Luck is often mentioned in situations where a great hand loses out to someone holding two cards that should never see the flop, or turn, or river.
In my opinion, it is not luck, but probability. The person who beats you with 4-2 off-suit beat the odds and defeated your AA. How often will that happen? 12 times out of 100. You get the other 88 times.
The more i play at pokerstars, the more i understand, that skill means nothing in poker. People always go all in with absolutely nothing and hit time after time.
In online poker, specially at micro levels, people will do very unconventional plays that creates a negative perspective for some players who like to play the “normal/logical” way.
I think other than entertainment purposes, in general it’s best to just play live poker because at a live poker game you’d never have to worry about two players at your table Skyping etc and colluding to win pots. There are just way too many unknown risk factors involved in online poker that results in your poker skill/experience level being completely irrelevant.