What an idiot

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Im in a freerool on poker stars where top 50 go though to a weekly freeroll for a wsop seat.the bubble is close 88 players left and im struggling,looking unlikely to get thru then this happens...

pokerstars Game #17814454157: Tournament #89284391, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (800/1600) - 2008/05/31 - 08:03:00 (ET)
Table '89284391 82' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: dersini (29965 in chips)
Seat 2: jkeroac (28675 in chips)
Seat 3: malice777 (8170 in chips)
Seat 4: katasheffer (22757 in chips)
Seat 5: djs909090 (7440 in chips)
Seat 6: i8urmoney (15036 in chips)
Seat 7: tim1710 (37933 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 8: RioRoyal666 (6440 in chips)
Seat 9: stevied147 (14240 in chips)
dersini: posts the ante 150
jkeroac: posts the ante 150
malice777: posts the ante 150
katasheffer: posts the ante 150
djs909090: posts the ante 150
i8urmoney: posts the ante 150
RioRoyal666: posts the ante 150
stevied147: posts the ante 150
RioRoyal666: posts small blind 800
stevied147: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to malice777 [Ad Qs]
dersini: folds
jkeroac: folds
malice777: calls 1600
katasheffer: calls 1600
djs909090: folds
i8urmoney: folds
RioRoyal666: calls 800
stevied147: checks
*** FLOP *** [Tc 3s 2s]
RioRoyal666: checks
stevied147: checks
malice777: checks
katasheffer: bets 1600
RioRoyal666: folds
stevied147: folds
malice777: calls 1600
*** TURN *** [Tc 3s 2s] [Ac]
malice777: bets 1600
katasheffer: raises 17807 to 19407 and is all-in
malice777: calls 3220 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (14587) returned to katasheffer
*** RIVER *** [Tc 3s 2s Ac] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
malice777: shows [Ad Qs] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
katasheffer: shows [As 6d] (a pair of Aces)
malice777 collected 20440 from pot
katasheffer said, "g1"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 20440 | Rake 0
Board [Tc 3s 2s Ac Qh]
Seat 1: dersini folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: jkeroac folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: malice777 showed [Ad Qs] and won (20440) with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 4: katasheffer showed [As 6d] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: djs909090 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: i8urmoney (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: RioRoyal666 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: stevied147 (big blind) folded on the Flop

thank goodness for donks lol. that guy could easily have coasted through.still could if he stopped being so dumb.why risk a bet like that tho with bubble so close???
 
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BTW, I dont think you're in any position to be calling anyone an 'idot'. You limp in with AQ preflop when you are super short-stacked, not the shortest at the table but compared to the blinds and antes...yeah. Why are you even limping here with your Mzone of 2.1? You call a bet on a missed flop with your short stack to try and catch a A or Q. If you miss, you're in world of hurt. The turn brings the Ace that you and your opponent hit. You're opponent bets out thinking he has the best hand since you've shown no strength PF with your hand. Of course you call and win. Your opponent even says 'G1' to you even though you completely misplayed the hand, IMO. And yet, you call him the 'idot'? Unless, you're talking about yourself...

ETA: it said 'idot' in the title before it was edited.
 
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Having said that i just got busted out in 70th place by another donk who beat my AQ with 83 off. bloody pokerstars again.....
 
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naa b,blinds where at 2k at the time and i was limping at the time with only 12k left so i needed a pot,that looked like my best chance.but thats pokerstars i guess,i am playing much better there now though.i got a ticket to todays weekly 2k after gettin though 10,000 players and nearly 5 hours playing and i have finished in the money in that last 2 $1 buy i tourneys so big improvemets in my play but still a lot to learn...
 
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So, blinds are at 1k/2k with 200 antes I assume. If its 9-handed, thats a 4800 pot right there. If you're sitting on a 12K stack with AQ, you definitely want to get all your chips in PF and go after that pot. If you can take it down, you increase you stack by 40%, which is a huge boost. The same could be said with your OP, you're stack was way to small to be limping in with. Shove it and take down that pot right there if you can, which would increase your stack by 45%. If you're lucky, you might get called by an inferior hand like A9, K10, J10, etc but even if that doesnt happen, the pot gives your stack a nice boost.

Another way to look at it is it's costing you 4800 of your stack to just play one rotation of the blinds. With a 12K stack, you have an M of about 2.5, which means you have about 2.5 rotations before you completely knock yourself out of the tournament at this current level. If blinds go up soon, then you have an even smaller M. At this range, you should be shoving all your top premium starting hands and stealing a lot more and just trying to build that stack.

Mzone = Your Stack/Small Blind + Big Blind + (No. of players x antes)

Try searching CC for SS tournament play and M-zone strategy/guide.
 
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Thanks for the good advise,like i said i still have a bit to learn,thats why i like this forum so much,the advice and strategies from good members like yourself are helping me a lot,on your remark about me being in no position to call the other guy an idiot,i guess idiot was a bit strong a word,it wasnt his all in bet i was criticising so much but his risking such a chunk of his stack when he coulda made a smaller bet and still gave him a decent pot if he won with less damage when he lost,and the real point being he was close to having enough chips to get through the bubble.incidently he crashed out a few hands before i did...
 
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